corgilady

Hi labs, nice to see you. My 16 & 17 year olds are very busy too.... they are losing their minds from so much homework! (or so they say :lol: )

Welcome back, Byrd!!! Glad you let us know when you're back :D Deep said: [quote]HOBBUTT!!!!!!! YOU'VE OUTPOSTED ME YOU GEEK!!!!!!! HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!!! I WASNT GONE THAT LONG WAS I? NOOOOOOO [/quote] Deep, Hobbit is a blabbermouth...SHE OR HE ( :wink: ) joined about when I did, and zoomed right on past almost all of us....probably part of the sex change issue

[quote name='Hobbit'] Nothing works. Electric fence doesn't slow them down; one just grabs it with his mouth and breaks it into or pulls it down. [/quote] :o :o

Big hugs to you, BK....I know this hurts. The others are right though; it IS best, as you know.

:o Pointing is RUDE?? Oh dear. What shall I do? I have been giving out treats for pointing. Especially with the middle toe, which is a DIGIT Hobbit, don't you know anything. I am a dog trainer after all. I also give an extra treat for pointing while dancing. I do not, however, allow dogs to be dogs. I know better!!!!! :wink: Ms. C

[quote name='Hobbit']Ms. C (I've always wanted to say that):[/quote] 8) [quote] I called a "breeder of Miniature Aussies" and she said she had two normal sized Aussies and just "got" mini's. She was rather proud of herself. I asked about their bloodline --- severely inbred, brother to sister for SEVERAL generations! They were "champions". :roll: Then I finally smooth talked (okay....I tricked!!) another "breeder" into telling me that her mini's were Aussie X Sheltie crossed and registered with NSDR and the North American Mini --- whatever it's called.[/quote] [color=blue]Good grief![/color]

Erin that is a really good post. Except I have to say, if you grabbed my Fella's tail he would freak out (when he was a pup) and if you had turned him on his back he would have panicked. He is not aggressive or anything, ,just look at my avatar :lol: but he would not have liked those 2 things. I had rotties and when new people approached them, they ran to the person (invoking a heart attack I am sure) and then flopped right over on their backs for a belly rub. :lol:

[quote name='eggrolyn1223']( Anybody know a place that doesn't sell animals in Plano, TX? :-?[/quote] You live in Tx? :-?

I have not read this whole thread, rather skimmed it; so I am sure that I'm missing something. HOWEVER....aurora.... just a side note: when you are asking people here to "put yourself in my shoes".... most of them can't. Living with a schizophrenic person is something that most people cannot begin to comprehend. The stress alone will make you ill, if not kill you! Of course you cannot institutionalize him, and even on the best meds there will be bad times. It is good to come here for support and discussion, but your situation will remain YOURS. In a certain sense, no one here will understand it. I think the thread started about 2 dogs fighting, have we strayed from the topic?

I know that somebody was talking about this breed recently, but i can't find the thread (sorry). Here it is from Dogo, it was the "breed of the moment".... who picks the list, anyway?? .... it even says there are toy ones.... teacup australian shepherd, anyone? :lol: [url]http://www2.dogomania.com/breed/breed331/[/url]

[quote=Mary's Mama] from what I have read it doesn't seem to be about the dog at all. Just like bullygirl said, this man craves chaos. So I would kill them with kindness. By their kids an inexpensive christmas gift. As for your dog, do what you feel best, if you know he doesn't bark than ignore your neighbor. It seems as though he is feeding off of the situation.[/quote] LOL .... that's what I was thinking! Christmas gifts! :lol: Whaddaya think, guys? Should I copy eric all my little initials?....nahhh. Too much fun! :lol:

Carol, you had a great neighbor! I had a neighbor in another state who came over the day I moved in and asked if I minded if he fed my dog steak. EVERY SINGLE NIGHT that man had steak for dinner, and every night he cooked one for my dog!!!! The dog barked at him the first time they met, but within a week or two he was wagging before the man even came out his door! Thanks for your sympathies... I am not sure where I will go from here... I have been working with the dog on not barking, and probably will continue to do so. Yesterday was our first day of going out at 10 a.m. and back in by noon in case their kids took a nap. I also took him out at 6 (stood with him, as their windows were dark which might mean somebody is asleep) for about 15 min. Frankly I think this is no life for a dog. Eric, I dont think you have good reading comprehension skills, but I will try to bear with you. I do not use curse words or shout at people, so there is not really a chance I will scream at anyone over their garbage. The other neighbors have confronted them, and have called the city on them, and it didn't do any good. :roll: I am not "upset", just annoyed by their behavoir, so I cannot forsee any "escalation". I am glad for you that you were able to resolve your problem, but I believe that your situation with a bulldozer is a little more concrete than my situation with a dog that "might bark" at "any time of day we might choose to put our kids in bed" in a town that DOES NOT HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE. I am not the sort of person who would use revenge, that is exactly my point, that I have tried to be as kind as possible... when the city worker came to me and asked if I had a problem with their hedges being overgrown (yet another complaint that got called in) I even took their side. I talked to them about it, and assured them it was NOT ME who kept complaining (they may think it is, but it isn't), and that I thought their hedges were fine, and that the most important thing was for everyone to get along. As far as the dog being outside "unsupervised", as you call it, he is allowed in the back yard, which is fenced, or walked on a leash. When I say "he is out for one hour", that is one hour TOTAL in a day ( a24 hour period) which could mean a few 15 minute visits or even less than that, depending. AS it has been raining for months, and the ground is very soggy, it is usuallly quite a bit less than that. HOWEVER, may I say that I feel the dog has as much right to live here as anyone else! and he should not have to be inside all the time because... he "might" bark! There are 3 dogs immediately behind us, which would be within 60 feet of the back of my house and the one beside me, that start barking at 5:30 a.m. and are often still going at 11. I also have 2 other dogs, who occasionally bark, and these people have not said a word about them. That is why I am so curious about this one complaint. Also, each day between 6 and 14 times ambulances, fire trucks, and police cars roar down the street... These "babies" who need all this sleep SURELY would wake up to that! ....kids come to the front of our houses to use the crosswalk, screaming up & down the street to each other... Also there is lots of other loud traffic, and a factory whistle that blows, and a train. So I feel that the barking pales by comparison! Bullygirl probably has the gist of the problem in a nutshell: [quote] i've dealt w/ unhappy people before and here's the deal nothing you do will make them happy. That's what makes them happy being miserable[/quote]

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:x wonder why it's these "great dog owners" who make all the noise? and those of us who really try are not the comlainers? :evil:

:o Good grief! I always thought that if you chose to live close, you expected a little noise from time to time. Neighbors wake me up sometimes doing different things, and I would never dream of telling them!

And another thing: eric said: [quote]You can't expect your neighbors to know something is annoying you if you don't talk to them.[/quote] excuse me? I cannot expect them to know not to spread their germy garbage all over the neighborhood? What about the leaves, is the fact that everyone else rakes them to the curb for pick-up not enough of a clue to clean them up???? OK so I should automatically know that a dog should not bark, but they should not know to be clean. Got it! :roll: Thanks for the info!

[color=blue]Eric look here:[/color] [quote name='corgilady']They complained that koda stands between our houses and barks, [color=red]so I put a 2nd gate near the back corner of the house, so that he can't get in between. [/color][/quote] [color=blue]I had already talked with them. I put up a gate to help the situation.[/color] [quote]He barks MUCH less if I shut him all the way in the back. He also is beginning to respond to the "no bark" command. Just a little. [/quote] [color=blue]There is improvement.[/color] [quote]I started keeping him inside a LOT more at that time, about one month ago. I feel though that if he were outside about 4 hours a day, that's enough to run off his energy. [color=red]But since they complained , he is in like 22 or 23 hours out of the day[/color]. [b]Many days I only leash walk him and don't even let him out alone at all[/b].[/quote] [quote]NOTE: Koda did NOT bark at him when he walked up. [/quote] [color=blue]eric said:[/color][quote]I realize that your neighbors are doing things which bother you, but their offences are not carte-blanche for you to let your dog bark, and this would only escalate the situation. I think you should deal with these issues as completely separate items.[/quote] [color=blue]ERIC I DID NOT PLAN to use this as an excuse to let the dog bark! If you read what I wrote, it should be clear that I have made every effort to KEEP HIM QUIET. I cannot believe that you are accusing me of such a thing when I think I made it clear that I have bent over backwards to help them, and been completely kind and considerate although they have been very poor (rude) neighbors. Do you keep all your dogs in the house, all the time?????Well it doesn't even matter whether you do or don't because you haven't had them very long.You have no idea, I am sure, what it is like to do all the things I do and still keep the dog INSIDE ALL THE TIME. I feel as if I can't even walk him, on a leash, into the back yard for a second. When this guy came out the dog WASNT BARKING!!!!!!!!!!! I was standing there talking on the phone!!!!!!!!!!!sheesh! So i really do not appreciate you projecting YOUR problems onto ME and making assumptions about my behavior. You do NOT KNOW ME as others on here do, so I really wasn't asking for YOUR opinion![/color]

That is the kind of thing I am afraid of! Recently I went out and one of their bowls was full of those red seeds that come off a magnolia tree....I don't think it was the dogs that were collecting them. There is a squirell and a possum but they probably wouldn't do that either sOOOOO I wondered if someone heard they were poisonous so they put 'em in there. The nearest magnolia tree is about 75 feet from there, and across afence. And there were none in the yard; only in the bowl!

Well I think I just need a little support here! As you know, the neighbors took down my fence, I paid for a survey to show them that it was MINE, not theirs to take down (it went all around my property, DUHHHH!). Then they kept saying they were going to put up a fence, and they were lying. so I finally put one up myself. They complained that koda stands between our houses and barks, so I put a 2nd gate near the back corner of the house, so that he can't get in between. He barks MUCH less if I shut him all the way in the back. He also is beginning to respond to the "no bark" command. Just a little. I started keeping him inside a LOT more at that time, about one month ago. I feel though that if he were outside about 4 hours a day, that's enough to run off his energy. But since they complained , he is in like 22 or 23 hours out of the day. Many days I only leash walk him and don't even let him out alone at all. On sunday, I put him out after church and the neighbor was immediately over here. He said, what are you going to do about this???? and pointed to koda. NOTE: Koda did NOT bark at him when he walked up. :roll: He just wagged his tail. I said, I keep him in 23 hours a day, is that not enough????? he said no, because we might put our kids in bed at any time of day, and he barks. I said well if I knew their schedule I could help you. He said, we do not have a schedule. they sleep whenever. So I said well I will stop putting him out right after lunch, I will put him out in the mornings instead, does that help? he said yes but you need to give the dog away --- and proceeded to tell me about various dogs they have owned for a few months and then got rid of. Now that I have had time to think about this: 1. After they stole my fence, they continually let (really nasty) garbage blow out of their cans into my back yard, and they never picked it up. so I always had to. Now it catches on the fence and stays in their driveway, until it blows forward and over into my front yard and I pick it up. 2. I do not own a tree, but since they have TONS and they do not rake leaves, I spend all fall and part of the winter cleaning up their leaves, which blow over here and cover my walk, porch, and garden. It takes hours to get them out of the rose bed. 3. They wake ME up almost every night coming in from their mom's (where they go eat every night) and I have NEVER complained 4. We are surrounded by 8 other dogs besides ours, all of whom bark. Some are out all night and at least one starts barking every morning at 5:30 a.m. 5. When another neighbor complained about this same guy always leaving his trashcans all over the sidewalk for a WEEK after the trash ran....they called the city on him....he said to me, well when people complain it makes me want to leave them taht much longer. THEREFORE I FEEL LIKE leaving my dogs out all day. and all night. and borrwing some more barky dogs. I feel that I have bent over backwards, and I want to just ignore them and do whatever I please. It is inconvenient to me not to let the dogs out around 2:30 right before my students come. Also I like to let them out around dinner time. But I know that I am pretty angry right now. What is reasonable?????

Just hold your dog under deep water for a while. Or Hobbit can explain to you how to throw them off a cliff. That usually solves everything.

:oops: and here i thought i was such a good doggiemama! :lol: :lol:

How could ANYONE be offended? It's hilarious! :lol:

And by the way....just so you know.... while he was barking I was NOT ignoring him.... I paused the movie and said, do you need to go outside? Do you want some water? Where is your toy? What is WRONG?????? heehee :lol:

The poo thing worked for me, but my 2 dig for fun more than to get out. Koda digs craters but he hasn't figured out that if he does it at the FENCE he will get a reward. So far he has dug up the entire rootball of all the trees I planted last spring, the whole side of the garage, and part of the house. :lol: Not to mention the ones that are just out in the middle of the yard. All this and he never stops barking, either!!! I have a friend who fosters many large dogs. She went all around her acreage and dug a little trench, and poured a small bit of concrete into it. She says when they hit that, they think they can't get out so they stop. Good luck!

wellllll trust me, the next time he barks at me WE ARE GOING OUTSIDE!!! Of course now that I think about it when we are OUT and he barks at me we immediately come in ... so soon it will be like a revolving door. :roll: We were not in a new PLACE Mei-mei, as that is our usual routine, but we did it without the other dogs; that's what was new. I thought about the submissive thing but it was such a large amount....don't they normally just dribble ? We haven't had that problem before. I have informed him that I do not speak dog, and the next time he needs out, just ask. In a complete sentence, with correct grammar.