deepseasnake

thats still pretty young to trust with the whole house, I agree what exactly is the problem, you dont want her to over heat in the room? dont want your house destroyed? I guess rereading your post I cant figure out what your specific question is, maybe its too early in the mourning for me, maybe your mind types faster than you fingers. :wink: either way boil it down for me and I'll try to help :)

we should get the hobbit on here he's a pro at these kind of dogs, I'll bet he'll know what to do

[b]you go girl! I'm jus an a$$ kickn itchn to move![/b]

in all seriousness you may want to consider a "Tazer" at about 100,000 volts, contrary to what the commercials say a drunken high school football team can zap eachother all night and never rencer anyone unconsious. :oops: but you could probably pick up a baton style that is a good 15 inches long for under 60 dollars. this shock would surely stop a raged dog in its tracks. I might talk to a vet or a police dept. and make sure it doesn't trigger a blood rage or anything but I'll bet you can use a tazer pretty effectivly

funny mei, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ....wish I woulda thought of it :wink:

how old is the dog? and has she had any formal training? (if not thats fine too but I would like to know) is she addiquitely house trained during the day?

yeah I would not be comfortable with someone who did this to a pup, say 3 months old, but at the begining it seems okay, for obedience issues, cuz your not gonna quite swat him yet so you need to have something.

GREAT! I knew you guys would help me out, new problem though, she couldnt pay her freakn phone bill, and now we are out of touch indefinatly! I may have to resort to snail mail. :x she is soo stupid sometimes! so you think the hiccup thing might be worms?

blue, no way I would cross the street towards your dog, I think he is very cool, and unique. Maybe whoever avoided Blitz had been attacked and is scared of all dogs, Happened to me as a kid

Blitzkrieg, now that is a good dog name I actually considered "panzer" for my boxer, but still not quite sure.......BYRD 2 things first, congrats you had your first guest talk sh!t, you are really part of the group now, but you were defended much quicker then when I survived my first attack :D second, what are some good american weapons that will double as dog names, I cant think of any as, names like sea wizz and shefield just dont quite do it for me

wow, that was rough, I'm definatly gonna adopt next,

oh K, one day I'll figure something out we can get all wriled up at eachother about, but for now I gotta pick on boomer.... :lol:

boomer you are not a very "together" person are you.... okay I was gonna be mean but I wont I want to help you, I can call a shrink, a good one, we can work through these problems, you can lead a normal life again boomer. wouldn't that be GREAT! you could go to a job and people wouldnt throw rocks at you, or spit on your face. let me help you, this existance your living is not a good one WE can get you up out! and byrd will help to, we dont think you are a bad person we just think you are confused, but then I would be confused to [b]if I had to wake up to 360 degrees of anal tissue[/b]

I completely agree with you, pretty much :lol: a pup that young IS gonna have accidents and nothing is gonna change that, but by the time she is 6 months she should have a minimum of an accident every 2 weeks, and that should only be because you didnt get to the door on time, and the pile or puddle should be right at the door. In this case the dog should be put out side you should clean up without the pup seeing you and then bring the pup back in. I dont think that a dog that poops right in front of you than runs off, needs to be praised, [u][b]IMHO [/b][/u]the dog is testing his boundries and MUST be caught scolded and placed outside! call me old fashion but this makes the most sense, to me anyway YES when the dog poos outside you should praise him so much he pis$es himself again, just out of excitement! I believe in playing both ends of the field, negative and possitive enforcment, and you what, it has worked for every one of my dogs something else to note I've never trained a female dog, as the one I have now already knew not to "go" in the house. and K you have more dogs than me and you also have a bigger variety so I completely respect what you have to say. I also know that if it didnt work you wouldnt suggest it so I'm not gonna ever argue your points (unless you wanted to breed a mother with a son :wink: :D :lol:, just kidding) I might voice a differant opinion but I wouldn't ever argue with yours :D

something else, I noticed and didnt say anything then my girlfriend noticed on her own the pup does this thing, it could be described as a hiccup without any air or noise coming out of the mouth, her chest and stomach kinda pops full then back down really quick her facial expression does not change and she just kinda plays through it. to me it feels really bad, like REALLY bad, but I have basis for this feeling its just that, a gut feeling. but I cant stand what is going on with regaurd to the dog anyway so it might just be my mind overexagerating

moron

by the way I'm not sure it was a legit breeder the way she called it sounded more like a mill :evil:

I cant agree with you more there are SO MANY bad parts to the story that I've clued you guys in on it is just best put she has the pup and she has never had a dog before she knows nothing about the breed other than its cute now and looks mean later, she spent 260$ on cropping the pups ears when they were behind on rent, the crop job was only because they wanted the dog to look tough! I hate what this dog is faced with and I have tried to install a sense of responsibility in her and I think she is starting to grasp what she is in for. I only care about the pup so if you guys could answer her questions as I relay them to you we can all help the dog. that is assuming she is smart enough to call when things happen and not wait to see me :x

yeah what are you thinking she shoud have been in doggy ER as soon as you saw the bones! I hope your not serious

and anyway how are you gonna start sh!t with K? I mean Jesus thats like taking on the freakin pope dude, she is totally non confrontational (unless its about her dogs or abuse) and you might as well call me an idiot when you call Byrd an idiot, he's the only other guy like me on this dam board! :roll: guests......

okay boomer your right we hate your pathetic attempt at anonimity but so be it you leave me stabbing in the dark fine I've gotten quite good at it. USMCBYRD is a perfactly capable dog owner and I have every confidence that he has done everything in his power to teach his dog the way to live. but sometimes dogs out do us its life, sometimes they get the better of our forethought and they must be swatted for it. because if your dont swat the dog and you swat yourself it becomes a game of, "what can I do that daddy hasn't told me not to do yet?" if you want to go around and swat yourself everytime the dog pis$es on the carpet fine. Cuz all your gonna end up with is a migrain and a house that smells like pi$s. please do not patronize because we do not agree with your opinions. What you have implied isn't all that rare here. This "hit yourself" method is used by people all over this board, I dissagree with them as much as I do you, but I keep my mouth shut I respect that boundry until someone crosses it. like you have done. so just [b]shut up [/b]

honestly I dont know what I would do if I were you, I have many ideas but not sure how I would feel about them after analizing the situation. usually though I would wait it out and if the dog charged, well I usually carry a asp which is similar to a telescoping police batton with heavy weights on the end, it is long enough to keep a snarling dog at bay but if the aggressor dog made contact with mine, the gloves come off and I'm down there with 'em I think its just pappa bear drive after that, between my 235 pounds and martial arts training, that dog's not gonna be none to happy, plus I'm on a first name basis with the ER staff at the local hospital so no matter what happens those guys can put me back together :D

its funny cuz I tried to get everyone talking about this a little while ago but it didnt take, Im sure your story will spark some activity:D it reminds me of this time in a park (never ever ever ever do this! unless you KNOW HOW) this lady was walking a jack russel cross breed around Seattle's "greenlake" argueably this state's most popular spot to jogg, bike, run, rollerblade and take your dog out. So she's just trotting along when from up the hill and gargantuan rottweiler breaks loose from the tree he was tied to and storms the lady and the poor JR. I started to RUN but knew the dog would make it to the lady before me, so my heart was pounding while I tried to remember all those first aid CPR classes I took. at the point at which the dog made contact with the lady (she was absolutly calm by the way just watched the dog the whole time coming right for her) the lady grabed what remained of the dogs lead, turned her body so her back was to the dog, she was slightly crouched when the dog jumped to bite her, she pulled the lead closer and closer over her shoulder and the instant before the dog would have taken her arm off, she shot up like a morter, as a result, the dog hung by his collar all 4 feet off the ground, the back of the dogs head was touching the back of the ladies head and as she pulled the lead tighter it choked the dog and I would say after about....ohh 1.5 seconds the dog sh!t himself and she let go of the now unconscious rott! It was right out of some old kung fu movie, and it drew QUITE a crowd. oh and the owners came down over the hill threatening to shoot her because she killed their dog, the lady could not even respond, when everyone standing around started screaming bloody murder at the owner and with a good 15 20 people screaming at him he backed up the hill to his picknic. by the way the cops were called and the dog woke up after awhile and was a much calmer animal

hey guys I have not been able to logon for whatever stupid reason, thank you for your apology but hey I read to fast and sometimes I get defensive unnecessarily but no harsh feelings, I'll be sure to leave all the ACD and heeler questions to you :wink: and stay out of it

no K, I didnt mean that in a harsh way, I was just justifing my reply. I think it was right of me to give my advise even if I dont know the breed. I still think I should give my advice, I was trying to help. Other than that our replys really wernt polar opposits, to me they pretty much said the same thing, in regaurd to the question, he obviously knew more about the breed and gave insight in how the dog thinks but as far as addressing the problem it wasnt all that differant from what I said. I dont understand this guys first paragraph, if I stated some sacralige that would turn the dog to a werewolf than yeah he should tell the world I'm full of sh!t but I dont think I did that. if I did I didnt mean to and I apologize