deepseasnake

you forgot to say that they are ALL PUREbred and come with PAPERS from 7 differant oranazations :D

MEI MEI you miller :lol:

yeah I barely squeeked in with 60, but I made it :D

yeah but I love the color, and the more I see them the more the ears are growing on me :D

cool pic, It looks like an animal that an elf would ride like a horse and fly around with at night, I can see it now, swoosh :lol:

some max out as little as 50 pounds some are bred to be bigger but 50-60 is what I'm aiming for. I wont get one for some time as the breeders I talk to say, "you dont want a Caracal, its like having a 2 year old for 20 years" So its a 24/7/365 thing but about the time I get one of these bad boys is about the same time I get my Mastino. I will keep him in the house while I'm home, neutered so he wont "mark" me or the furniture. When I step out an enclosure thats 14x25x6 or 7 will do fine. They can jump an amazing 8 feet straight up :o so I must have a top. but I have a little blue print like sketch of exactly what the enclosure looks like, and it freakin Coool 8)

serious about the Caracal thing by the way here is a couple pics, and if you want the breeders site URL I'll put it up as soon as I can find his dang card :-? I borrowed these from [url]http://www.juliesjungle.com[/url] [img]http://www.juliesjungle.com/caracalface.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.juliesjungle.com/sleepingdillon2.jpg[/img]

ya know hobbit you have a good point there.....have I told you guys about the Caracal Im gonna get? that fila site was very interesting I havent read very much about those dogs, do know of any other sites like that in relation to any of the moloser breeds? preferably the older war like breeds I was speaking about?

[i]Becka said[/i] [quote]...claim that dogs live to be almost 20 years old on this diet... [/quote] I always compare dog food claims to BARF claims as BARF is obviously the best thing to feed your dog, and this claim is worst than that miracle "pawws" pill you see on TV at 1 in the mourning. The way I see it is you can never outdo BARF with "dog food" just come as close as possible and these claims seem to be implying just that, so I'd stay skeptical till you get an unbias opinion (yeah like that can happen :roll:) thats just my thoughts, though some people SWEAR by their dog food food so either way whatever makes you and ur doggie happy

it would be nice if one day when I'm worth 5 million, I could formulate a national dog fight task force to travel state to state and video/photograph these people in the act. I figure a full time staff of 5 could be a good start. all of which would then shut the video camera off and place everyone there under citizen arrest :D

god knows I'm always in bed by 3am I drive a Suzuki intruder and would never jump out of a plane..........with a parachute, real men dive NAKED!

my thoughts exactly, I will definatly get a Neo someday but I would also lika an old regal war dog from Italy or some other prominant european country

yeah its a pretty sick part of humans, the same with cock fights disgusting :x

that was a very interesting article, unfortunatly dog fighting is quite the sport isn't it well I have decided to look more at the origin of the Mastino. I liked the article but I now feel I may be able to get closer to the ancient roman war dogs that attract me so much to the Mastino. I would never fight a dog, but one of my biggest concerns is that I wont be there when my family or home needs a protector and I realize that dogs like dobies and GSD and ABs are great gaurd dogs,[b] I[/b] need more comfort than that (its just one of my quirks). I feel that if I can get as close to the dogs that fought in the legendary wars of the past, they will protect my people with age old vigor and wisdom in the preasant. This is more for my own comfort than the reality that 100 to 1 nothing will ever happen. My other drive to find this dog is that a dog that has been in war for 3000 years will be [b]most likely [/b]of stable mind and body. Therefore I will not run the risk of an unstable misinterpretation of a situation. so I will re embark on my quest to find my gaurd dog

thats a good pic :lol: I'm gonna have to use it somewhere too.......

my last was not ment to be abrasive, you are just shattering one of my my foundational beliefs in the Mastino :(

well, I'll tell you what, if I could choose a personal gaurdian I would be much more likely to pick a Neo over a pitt. by the way how long have pitts been fought? [i]Mei Mei said[/i] [quote]Pitbulls have been pitted against Neos and Tosas in the pit before[/quote] I am very interested in this statement, if you do think of the authors name or preferably a website with this info I would like to check it out as it is contrary to my faith in Mastinos

well this is a hypothetical I have never thought of.... and I guess in a way you have a point, however Neos did fight in gladitorial games and did quite well. In fact they did so well they were used to battle just about anything the empire came across including the elephants of western asia and india, at least that is what I have read. So yes a pittbull weighing in at oh, 60 lbs would be much quicker than a 235lbs neo, but the carnal instinctive ability for battle of the Neo must be takin into account as well as the inane ability for the pitt bull to grab and hold cattle. My original point was why would somebody want to see two 60 pound pittbulls fight when they could see acouple 200+ pound mastiffs fight? not to mention most mastiffs were used for fighting at some time anyway. I dont see why we dont see Akita fighting rings, I'll bet in terms of heritage they were the most recent breed to lose their "fighter" title which would make it more fresh in their instincts. [i]I'm a big fan of WAR dogs but [b]I do not condone dog fighting [/b]as we all know, but it is okay to think about hypotheticals, like if the taliban invaded with pitbulls, how would our dogs hold up in the battle :wink: [/i]

I wonder where the whole pitt fighting thing came from? why arn't the real fighting and war dogs being singled out like this? pitt have never been dog fighters before this century right? I'm not saying any breed SHOULD be singled out (accept Akitas :wink:) but how on earth did pitts get this wrap and not Shar Peis or Dogos or even Mastinos for that matter? I dont get it :-?

yeah dude, I agree with the rest of your post but last time I checked pitts aren't bred fighters of other dogs like Akitas are ( :wink: just kidding :lol: ) and a well bred APBT should be confident and tolerate quite a bit from another dog. If your dog truely does what you have said you have a real problem on your hands, what happens when your not home and a GSD sticks his head through your doggie door? fault or no fault your dog dies, its just the way dice land, everytime

well call me an expert but, the vet in your area would probably know better than us, but where are you speaking about?

thats pretty funny I can picture it now.... and that is kinda what I mean granted I have never seen your dog so I may be off but I think the dog stopped chewing the books because he knew it made you "crazy" I think he stopped because he knows that chewing books hurts you so he doesnt do it anymore. I think dogs are pretty smart like that

no one called you stupid nor your comments stupid but please see it from our side, we get the same 5 questions asked all our lives about the same five dogs, so it's just a bit frusterating when all people care about is "lock jaws" and bite "PSI" these dogs have so many more powerful facits like their love and devotion for family and children. So please understand that we are not coming down on you, we are coming down on the fact that the world has turned these wonderful dogs into psi driven lock jaws and there is so much more to pitbulls and AMSTAFs so please dont be offended just ask better questions before you ask about lock jaws and bite PSI. Because the other thing is how do we know your not gonna take the info we give you and go fight some dog because of it in that case we are just as responsible for killing a dog as you are (or would be, be that the case)

WOW dont mind me saying, poodles are pretty neat looking without all that cosmetic hair crap he is really good looking I wouldnt mind a dog that looked like that

I guess I'm in the minority then, my dogs know when they are being corrected and they know what for. I'll just leave it at that because I dont want to start a big thing, but I swear by negative and positive reinforcement it has always worked best for me