deepseasnake

yeah I just saw the show on it and all it was about was people who ate brain and spine to give them the shakes. the tribes men who have the shakes the most are considered stronger and closer to god than the rest, pretty bizarre. but its the same in animals right? caused by eating brain of recycled members of the same species?

sorry guys but I forgot all guests arent the same person, to me this looks like an attack on the list of "gamebred" APBT breeders I put up in breeds, I still think it is the same person tring to counter my smartassness I may be wrong but lack of content sounds to me like it was the same degenerate. hey you can see IPs is it the same guy? and is it hmmm in disguise?

I didnt know that brindle neos were an accepted color, I've never seen one only read about brindle ones. but I guess they should be if its out there I cannot get over that chester what an amazing animal! he could take out a grizz :lol:

that must be why you are interested in mad cow so much then huh? I saw a special on cannibles in S america, bad stuff when you get afew brains too many, they all look demon possesed shakin around and cant walk or talk, wierd stuff

why? it wasnt in my lang and I dont like taco bell dogs :roll:

[quote]Personally, I agree with you(deapseasnake). All Breeds did begin at some point. Whether you believe that we were all created by one God, or if you believe in evolution. It all had to start somewhere. People are being scammed by paying those prices...not knowing what you get...but we do the same thing when we go to a local shelter. You hardly ever know where the dogs have come from, medical history, anything! But we still condone that? I believe a good dog is a good dog...no matter where it came from! The "BEST" dog I ever had came from a shelter locally! He did have health issues...but it made him no less a dog! He was AWSOME! [/quote] Sorry I dont understand, what dont you agree on? please refresh my memory :oops: one thing I will point out, if someone pays huge money for a designer breed it will usually mean they can pay huge money for medical attention so as far as the dog is concerned he is takin care of

HOLY COW! did you see chester on page 2? amazing! I would love that dog, I'll bet they have a verticle leap thats all of 2 inches :lol:

well I got it off the net, and I'll give credit to the folks back in '73 who created it, its amazing what you can do with binary code isnt it?

not to stray to far off topic, but exactly what kind of science are you in?

[url]http://home.socal.rr.com/mainliner/bulldoglinks.html[/url] tell me what you think

actually you may consider going to maniac dog lovers [url]http://denim.bbboy.net/maniacdoglovers[/url] they have alot of info on the latest about the bullboxer breed :D

yeah, those are great looking dogs! thanx :D I thought about a bullboxer, I guess I still am I just get so distracted by the ABs I just love their look! oh well, I really need is a Neo/AB/Boxer now THAT would be something to see wouldnt it :lol:

I agree with you totally doc, if one has to die to save 10 then so be it, I do believe that it is possible for a company to get "sacrafice" crazy and do excessive exparimentation, which is wrong. but one definatly has to step back and relize how bad off we would be right now if this kind of testing never took place.

I've never seen one that was primarily any color but white, I've seen alot of colors in addition to the white but they seem to always have more white than anything else. I really like fawn that is my favorite color on any bully dog and it looks best on boxers. A fawn dog with AB size and build, Boxer face and Boxer personality would be my perfect dog :lol:

I like the ABs much better, but as you all know I'm all about HUGE dogs. I like that they are big and not very dog agressive. :lol: I really want a boxer/AB because I really dont like the color of the ABs and who can resist the boxer attitude? all that white makes me think I'm looking at a bleach victim or something. APBTs are nice, but not big enough for my liking :D now a Neo, thats a gorgeous dog!

barkingbuddies.com but I'll warn you its not like here, there is no respect on that board and you can barly see through all the bull sh!t, there are alot of people on that board who are just plain full of it. Hmmm is not one of him, he knows about fighting and sticks to his guns. and be warned there are alot of dog fighters/dogmen on that board kiwi, I dont get why you said this? [quote]Well noone's ever called me that before [/quote] if it because I said this [quote]ugh what a bunch of foul demon people[/quote] it was only in refferance to the people who are dogmen or fighters on that board, not joe shmoe user. So I'm sorry if you thought I meant everybody. but if your saying your a dogman than I'm gonna stick to my demon statement :D

pretty much how I feel to, cant believe all the garbage I've been reading on barking buddies, ugh what a bunch of foul demon people

ever seen this before? [url]http://www.angelfire.com/extreme3/heartoftheapbt/Rules.html[/url]

[quote]Deep I am lost again the kids are in bed and the dogs are asleep...is the gist of what you are saying the reason I cannot concentrate and make sence of what you have just painstakingly written is because it is too quiet and I should try re-reading it again at ..say..midday tomorrow when I have 4 other things to do at the same time??[/quote] if I were you I would turn up loud music, like me right now, and listen to the music as I read, if it doesnt work then it doesnt work. people like me are quite a minority, I just like to see how many I can find wherever I go. So if what I wrote does not sound interesting to you then dont bother forcing yourself through it, that would be pointless. It is just a way at looking at specific peoples difficulties, not anything super cool or informative, just a way to view things. It has helped me TREMENDOUSLY but I have found that most people dont respond very well. My dad is ADD but he prefers medication and does very well on it, my mom is like me and doesnt want to "mute" that part of her brain so she learns to work with it. Either way the job gets done neither is better, just differant. but adults who dont know or deal with this, typicaly loose interest in things they used to do for fun, get really tired of their jobs after so much repatition and on and on, It sure isnt the only reason one looses interest or gets bored, but it is [b]always[/b] presant in one with a "hunter" mind. and 9 times out of 10, things get much better after "hunters" are told about it its just a chore to find them

if any of you guys from other boards who know of this guy could get me his email that would be great :D

I could be totally wrong, ADD is a hot bed right now of believers and nonbelievers, I try to tell practically everyone that they are, just trying to get the word out ya know, I've helped alot of people, but 7 out of 10 think I'm full of shit but thats fine cuz the 3 that were helped by it really were helped, so I win some I loose most, but I keep tryin I dont even care if you read it or not but I would feel incredibly responsible for inaction if I didnt put it up somewhere to see

sorry, girls :oops: you know I get carried away :oops:

hey I know its a bit** typing so much, thanks for disscussing this with me though :D

guys, let me throw something out there for ya at the young age of 6 I was tested for my reading ability and it was equivlent to a senior in highschool. The lady who administerd the test approached my mother about having me tested for a "new" condition. I was tested by 2 boards and a shrink to learn I was "victim" of 2 learning "dieseses" called Attention Deficit Disorder and Dyslexia. My mom and me did some research and didnt find much so we paid very little to no attention to it till about the age of 15. Turns out literally my entire family had been diagnosed similar on both sides all the way up as far up as we could administer tests. Well my fathers cousin has a clinic in Portland Oregon, she exclusivly deals with extreme cases of ADD, ADHD and dyslexia, the latter of which does not apply to the model I'm about to set up, but frequently is preasent in "Hunters" (you'll see what I mean in just a minute). My cousin (I'm just gonna call her mine for ease of typing) has been on the front lines of the pych. reasearch in these "dieseses" and she is probably the "worst" case I have ever met. I always had trouble in school but never to the point of seeking outside "help". So after debriefing Debbie (the cousin) on my school history and other social aspects of life, she set up for me a model for life. This model was literally a god sent miracle drug, I'll try the best I can to lay it out for you. The reason I am going here with this post is that I meet people all the time who say word for word what you guys have just told me. If you dont feel I'm talking about you after the post I'm probably wrong, it does happen, but all I have to go on here is letters on a screen and to a certain degree the facial expressions I see in your dog's picture webpages. The hunter farmer FACT first disclaimer, this has become a fairly common belief and is no longer really considered cutting edge, so I'm sure some of you guys have heard of it, but in case you haven't PLEASE READ ON. but if I say "Hunter farmer" and you know what I'm talking about just skip it :lol: second disclaimer, I usually post doctors names and quotes and scientists and their books, you guys know me well enough and if your gonna believe your gonna believe some "suit" isnt gonna change that, so forgive me no quotes here. This is all ME, hehe Back in the day, way back in time, cave dwellers, humans had 2 ways of feeding ourselves we could hunt and then we could farm. Both had advantages and dissadvatnages, for one a farmer could depend on his food every harvest (comparativly speaking). for two he pretty much knew how much food he was gonna have and when he could have it and when he needed to start the process of making more. He knew how to read the weather, he knew that the world changes according to a specific pattern, probably didnt call it summer, winter, fall but he could anticipate their arrival. A farmer was always deligating tasks to his family and because he could teach all these "tricks" his children got effeiciant like himself. The major thing to remember about farmers is this, they talked to one another, farmers from miles around would trek out to one another and share their tricks and tips with one another, they were supportive of eachother and when one failed at a new idea the others would give him their extra food, because since he made the mistake the others didnt have to and so there family would not need to suffer because of that thing. remember the thing to remember is communication and support of one another. Hunters were polar opposites, they could never stay in one place, or the food would dissapear, they always traveled light and were always ready to move and chase. A hunter had to demand a wide range of physical abilities from his body. He had to run, leap, swim, climb and be able to stalk absolutly still for hours on end for the "big" kill. A hunter also had to master his senses he had to track with every noise around him at all times, he was not only the hunter but also the hunted. If he only watched a deer and was tracking it silently he might step on a python, and be eaten so he had to be totally aware. Another aspect of hunter life was he had little need for a family, they were extra mouths to feed and for years a baby could not even hold his own and right before and right after childbirth his mate could not hold her own as the child demanded all of her attention. Not to mention the mother needed specific dietary needs, she could not just eat meat all the time. So families were rare at best, but a smart hunter would have a child and grow it up to be twice the skillfull hunter as he, this way when he could no longer keep up with the animals the child could bring him food. This is also when partnership with animals came in, not like we think of it but a well set trap could drive a heard of bovine animals into a waiting pack of wolves and all the hunters and predators could walk home with a large amount of meat. The number one thing to remember about hunters is that they could never make a home else they exhaust the area of meat, and starve. as the two types grew the enevitable happend, the farmers became so effecient that they had to expand their farms to inculde an array of food. A new field for every berry and grain they could grow. I came evident that if 2 farmers could border one another they could communicate faster. these borders became partnerships and eventually the first towns. Groups of people working with such a synergy that a small population of 5 or 10 could farm the land equivalent to 20-30 individual farmers. Instead of doing everthing they worked in groups and in shifts or turns so everyone could rest and devolp new ways to farm, plant, plow and clear new areas for greater farms. The other thing of significance is that now you have 5-10 men working together but also each of their wives could work together, child birth was much easier with 4 other women helping you threw it. It was also less deadly to child and mother, children were even more incouraged now as they made the group better and faster. Children could do smaller jobs so the men had even more time to devise better ways to do their jobs. I can just see the fatefull day, that first hunter accidently ran cross the first man made field. Two things happened when the two collided, the hunter ran away, he was scared and there was no way any animal would live in a place so close to noisey humans and in a field with no cover, he could not live anywhere around that. The second thing, he was spotted by a farmer, the farmer now a civilized man who lived by some sort of ethical code with many people, saw a primitive man who was far behind himself. This man must be shown "the way" he must be brought here and be tought to farm with us. As the farms grew the huntable land was consumed, hunters were forced to feed on the animals kept by farmers. The farmers viewed this as a behavior of an uncivilized man one who was an animal and in need of rescueing. So hunters were brought in, wether they were captured or had no choice the end result was the same. Generations upon generations were put into developing the farmer way of life, but the exact same thing was happening in the hunter community a father taught a son and he taught his, "dont kill everything or you wont eat tomorrow", "be as fast as your fastest meal", "use your nose like the wolves, eyes can be decived", "jump like a gazelle", "listen to me speak but listen to that monkey at the top of that tree just the same". The hunter at first look had spent all his time develping his body, but at closer examiniation his mind was just as adept, he could effectivly tune out pain, he could run longer than he was supposed to due to what we now call "will" but his most amazing ability was that he could effectivly listen and track with many things at the same time, he could think and invent weapons and traps while chasing an animal at full speed, his brain functioned on so many differant levels that no matter what was happening to his physical body he could track with 4 or 5 other things in his mind at the same moment. When the intragation of hunter to farmer took place the hunter was thought "dumb" because he did not know the seasons and how to plant and harvest. The farmers put him in a room that was quite so he could learn and concentrate. this was incredibly painful for the hunter as he was meant to function with utter chaos all around him, he needed noise danger and demands so that he could operate optimally. this directly relates to us today, what "farmers" view as a deficit is actually a well honed skill that took many years to develop, school was not meant for hunters, a hunter probably sat down twice in a normal day and each time was filled with eating or mending clothes. A hunter NEVER sat still unless stalking, it was a death trap to stay in one place. He could listen to 3 people talk at the same time with full comprehention and pay attention to his child climbing a tree. Farmers didnt know this they had no idea hunters even exsisted they were to busy expanding. An ADD child is a "dieses" that describes a differant kind of learning and differant kind of living, not a deficit not a problem that needs to be fixed, its a power that needs to be harnessed. So many kids are called stupid and they freak out because they cant figure out why they "dont get it". We were forced into a world that isnt meant for us and doesn't want our ability. Want proof? in school did you ever listen to music while you did your homework? had the TV on? were tests extra hard, maybe cuz it was so quiet. personally I went to school and did my homework and tried to track with every conversation in the room at the same time, I tried to pay attention to the window and the other side of the door, I could listen to molly talk about bobby, I could listen at the same time to the teacher scold bobby and hear lewis' plan to skip 4th period, and finish the chapter in math. It was the only way I could concentrate if I was in a quiet room, it was like drip torchure, still is. I have the "deepest" talks with my family, friends and girlfriend while I'm driving listening to music. I have never takin any drug for my "illness" I refuse to be less than anyone else, I feel bad that everybody cant think like me, I feel like I'm super human sometimes. In high school if I was struggleing with a test I would start talking to someone, then I could release this ability to just get it. okay check this out [quote]My problem is I can't concentrate when reading. I'm off in my own little world thinking about other crap. And I'm like you....I love to read[/quote] where is this little world? maybe an attempt at another tracking device, try turning on the radio the TV and bring your kids in, try and track with everything, at first it wont work, your taught that its not supposed to. this ability has been repressed for SO LONG you are gonna have to work on it a little. Do it with one whole book and remain faithful to it, if there is no differance, than oh well at least you got through a book :D if it does work you have the deepest understanding of your personal brain yet, and now can motivate yourself to do almost anything [quote]Sure, put me on new projects. Give me new responsibilities. Give me more challenging things to learn. [/quote] rephrase this, YOU NEED new tasks and you need them all at the same time so when your doing one, your doing all of them! [quote]...sometimes I am so busy and so pulled in 5 different directions at once that nothing seems to sink in or make sence anymore[/quote] we are tought that this is not a proper learning enviroment so it is proper reaction to not let it make sense, but the fact you feel pulled is significant to me, let it go and just "track" [quote]Dad and I talked last Christmas about our reading ability. As a child I was in advanced reading....but now, I have to read, and re-read and re-read (even if it's something I'm passionatly interested in)[/quote] same here, advanced reading until there was no where else to advance, then I just kinda forgot about it and had to really work to get my interest back, the challenge left and along with it my interest level tell me what you guys think cuz I've been typing for hella, and I dont even know if this is helping anyone, :oops:

thanks crystal :D