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heimlich for a dog consists of picking it up and holding its head to the ground, basically upside down. there is a box you can make that stands up high enough off the ground to literally put the dog in it, small enought that only the head and partial shoulders can fit. then, while holding his feet up (want to keep him upside down) GENTLY press in and down on the diaphragm, located just underneath the ribs. above the stomach, under the ribs. a sharp inward thrust, and then a gentler down (towards the head) thrust. same as a person. stay away from the ribs, they can crack if the inward thrust is too hard. try to think of a bellows. you want the air from the inward and down thrust to "push" the offending food out, without hurting the dog. still, even cracked ribs is better than dieing. its ont he "down" thrust you have to be more careful, since you will contact the ribs on that thrust. on a person it would be sharp thrust IN, and lesser thrust UP to dislodge the food. since most people are not easily turned upside down in this situation. it there is someone else there, get them ot help. two hands, if possible, (get someone else to hold the feet if your not alone) linked together by fingers (imagine saying a prayer, with hands held together by fingers and fingers laced) your hands are now in a "ball" position. one sharp IN thrust, and then a gentler DOWN thrust. you're using the air in the diaphragm to "blow out" the offending food. hope that helps. soft treats may be better, since Coal gets so excited about his training. IF you are alone, you can do it with one hand balled into a fist. but it may take more than one attempt.

My guess would be Cody is protecting you. New house, new scents, things he is not accustomed to yet, which is harder since he's deaf. All dogs act a little weird at first in a new house, till they become accustomed to the sounds, scents, layout. since he cant hear, perhaps it's just taking a little longer. gotta get all those new smells down now. Once he's comfy, he may very well go back to sleeping in his bed. but not til he feels everything is safe. Laurel wouldnt leave my side when I first brought her home (Free was brought up here) and wouldnt leave my room unless I did. She bonded to me quite quickly. and she would react to anything Free did that seemed like a warning, but instead of joining in the fray, she would stay closer to me than ever. I;m sure Cody will settle in eventually.

I think it depends on the dog, and what it was bred to do. Mine will both return from the yard when called, although Free will "saunter" back while Laurel will run. treats make no difference to Free. she always comes, but at her own sweet pace. unless SHE wants to come in. she knows her commands, she chooses to ignore them if something else has her interest at the time. she is a Lab/pointer mix. Laurel is a foxhound. I have been told that neither can be trusted completely off lead, because an interesting scent will send them running, and they instantly become deaf. in her true working capacity, Free would be running loose after shot game. Laurel would be chasing fox. they are scent dogs, and a compelling scent will have them off and running. in neither place would a leash be necessary. Free would return with her bird, without being called, Laurel would find the fox and bay til the hunter arrived. Once having arrived, the hounds would dig it out, or if cornered, allow the hunter to get it. the other night they teamed up to catch a possum. Laurel dug it out from under the shed (as she would if hunting fox..."rousting" it) Free doesnt dig, and while she knew it was there, couldnt get it to come out. she somehow got Laurel to roust it, scaring it out by digging, and she stood by (the "hunter") until it dashed, and she caught it. Now the strange part. She didnt attempt to eat it, or maul it (she has soft mouth) she came straight to the door and Laurel bayed. Called me basically. I came out, and there she stood with the poor little thing in her mouth. Very dead, but unharmed otherwise. looking very proud of herself, with Laurel standing there backing her up. both tails wagging furiously. I couldnt yell at either of them, they were doing what they bred to do, but I HATE when she does that.... Foxhounds dont kill their prey, they wait for the hunter to do that. Somehow Free has been recognized as the "hunter". they are the "finders"..someone else does the final job. Now Labs dont normally kill their prey either. its already dead when they retrieve it, but Free has this HUGE predatory drift. She has caught/killed many small creatures in the yard, and brings them to me every time. she's a mix, but not sure exactly with what. However, the retriever always comes out. She picks it up and brings it, relatively unscathed except for the teeth marks where it was killed, usually in the neck, and brings it back. and HANDS it to me (GROSS!!!). so yes, some dogs are simply not stable off lead, depending on breed.

then he has no case, and no reason to be so rude. the dogs are offlead, they interact with each other. that's the whole pupose of the park. I like your description of Jesse. the "perfect country gentlemen". I can picture him in my head, strolling up, tail wagging madly..."wanna be friends?" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Free too has short hair, which makes the hackles even more noticeable when they come up. She will raise them in the yard, when she hears something she "doesnt like" (or smells it). I am rarely ever able to determine exactly what it is, but we have lots of free roaming wildlife around here (there are some humans I would put in that category :lol: ) and she is "alerting" to them. rarely does she ever raise a lip, altho she does bark, she is just alerting and "posturing" to what she hears/smells, that I dont. She will also do it on walks, if a strange person or animal approaches, like a dog off lead. again, no lip lifting, tail doesnt go straight, she may bark, or growl low in her throat. ears are usually high instead of back, she is listening.

well, heres some US history about it. It is carried, without succumbing, by bats. they are carriers, but dont get it. Once they bite an animal, (and yes, there are vampire bats here, who often settle on cows and such and suck blood) they have transmitted it. same with raccoons, possums, fox, etc. once the wild animal has succumbed to it, it becomes rapid, and dangerous. it has no fear of anything. a raccoon with it may decide, in its ultimate insanity, to try to defend itself from a coyote, or wolf, or fox. remember Ol Yeller? the bear was rabid, and that's why it attacked. once the animal has bitten another, it gets transmitted again. that's why the rabies laws here are so strict. A pet that gets bitten by a wild animal usually (not ALWAYS) who has been vaccinated will not get it. there are exceptions. that's why every pet bitten by a wild animal has to be quarantined, for 14 days, unless they can catch the animal who bit it. they will then kill it and do blood work from its brain. If its not rabid, your pet will be released. If it IS, it will have to remain in quarantine to guarantee the symptoms dont show up. since humans are not vaccinated, if we get bit, they wont even wait the 2 weeks. if they cant catch the biter, you get started on a series of painful multiple times a day/week injections to fight it. Once the symptoms show up, its then too late. there is no cure. it amazes me that where you are it has been eradicated. Are there no bats? or wild animals with the potential to get it?

If he's trying to train his dogs, depending on the level of training involved (basic obedience, heel, sit, etc) an unleashed dog park is not the best place to start. you dont start on distraction training until BO has been gotten down first. If he's trying to train for distractions, he's going about it all wrong. distraction is what you WANT if that's what you're traiing for. we have a training park here, for beginners, and all dogs have to be on leashes. it's for beginner obedience training, and distraction for beginners. true, offleash, distraction training comes much later, when you have firm recall command on your dog. while your dog should have returned when you called, an offleash dog park is very tempting to some dogs. and yu werent expecting him to sneak off like that, but they do in an offlead park. I too think he overreacted. was he aware this was an offlead park do you know?

that's why **I** want to talk to her first..... c'mon K, let's go have some "choice" words with this bitch..... :evil: :evil:

Sharpie, have the vet test him for alleriges. specifically to food. allergies can cause seizures in dogs. twitching and aggressiveness esepcially.

LABS??? LABS???? Can **I** talk to her first??? :evilbat: :evilbat: :evilbat: :evilbat: :evilbat:

[quote]Neither of the bullies are so independent, but both are much more biddable, and eager to please, which makes teaching them easier (they're also thinkers, but tend to look for more guidance in what they're doing than Annie)[/quote] ok time for someone to throw the spanner in the works. I think this quote says it all. "biddable". dogs that are easier to train to do what WE want are often considered the smartest. BC's fall right into that, so do poodles and goldens. they are eager to please. and to some extent, Labs as well, although they are more stubborn than the above. However, if you ask the guide dogs societies, they will paint a different picture. like sled dogs, they want a dog who will DISOBEY in order to do its job. it's called "intelligent disobedience". the leader of your sled team will disobey the musher if he knows there is a crevasse in front of him. your guide dog for the blind will refuse to cross the street when the light changes, no matter how hard his owner orders him to. your hearing guide dog will knock you down rather than let you cross into gunfire. is this "biddability"? not really, to the average dog owner. its direct, deliberate disobedience. Is it intelligence? absolutely. the dog is being made (trained) to make choices that go directly against the orders of its human. it requires a certain amount of independence and free thinking, something you dont see in truly "biddable" dogs.

I agree that I think the article was stressing loose dogs for the hackles part. many dogs on lead will raise hackles at each other, and also in yards. Its a warning sign from the dog that no crap will be tolerated, or its afraid and trying not to look it. When mixed with the other signs, stiff stare, straight tail, no backing down, and offleash, I would consider that a dangerous dog. there are usually multiple signs given in any dog/dog and dog/people interaction.

I am curious to know why where you live there is NO rabies. It's a very common disease in mammals. bats carry it, foxes, dogs cats, possums, etc, once infected carry and transmit it. bears get it, people get it..... I dont know if herbivores can carry it, but almost any predatory animal can. The rabies laws around here are so strict they can shoot an animal they think has it on sight. it can only be transferred through a bite, it has to be introduced into the bloodstream, but its common among wild animals. thas why this surprised me so much....

at 7:01 they are both in my face. where's dinner? I put Laurels down first, cuz she eats slower, but free's in only 20 seconds later. they both eat in their "spots" in the kitchen. Free then checks out Laurels dish for any morsels while Laurel comes looking for seconds.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

glad to hear it. maybe the stitches were reminding asim of his "oopps"... or they may have smelled like blood. now that they;re gone, he's ok. :D :D :angel:

in order of onwership. 2nd - Irish wolfhound foster - definitely 4th. - Malamute mix - defintiely 5th - current Lab Mix (YES, Lab) has killed various small creatures. Field mice, squirrels, birds, and recently, teamed up with the foxhound to rout and kill a possum from under my shed. I dont know that she would attack a cat, I have one. she's afraid of him, so maybe not. so my percentage? 3/5ths....

OMG that made my day!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Freebee jumps up every night when I get home to lick me, and often our heads bash. she zigs or I zag, something like that. she doesnt appear to feel it... Alex sent me to the hospital once. he would come running at you when called with leaps of exuberant energy, but couldnt always stop on time. Usually I watched and moved out of his way, but I turned to answer Kyle and he broadsided me in the back of the knees. head over tea-kettle. my head hit the cement sidewalk, and I was dizzy and bleeding, so off we went to the ER. it went like this: what happened? My dog bowled me over.... your dog did WHAT? he slammed into the back of my knees. he cant always stop on time. Is he blind? no. then why cant he stop? How should I know? was he leashed? no he was in my backyard. why was he running? I called him. and he slammed into your KNEES? yes. so she gives me "that look" (the one that insinuates she thinks I'm lieing) and eventually I get to see the doc. first words outta HIS mouth...so what REALLY happened? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

the police department here has taken K9 units into the schools. One. of them, "Walter E. Smith" (why he's name after a furniture store I have NO clue) called WES for short, is trained to "act out" certain dog behaviors to show the kids the differences between aggression, fear, dominance and submission. each session is followed by the kids answering what THEY think they should do under the circumstances. and handouts of course, with tail, lip and ear positions etc. I think it's a good policy. I applaud you on your choices Shara. :D

my cat is allowed outdoors on nice days because he is trained to not leave the yard. It took 2 years, but he stays in the perimeter of the front yard, mostly on the porch, where he can bask in the sun and roll around. from the porch there is access to the fenced back yard, so if he's threatened he has an escape route a dog cant get to.

sounds like it coulda been a bee HF. I am dreadfully allergic to them. I swell up like that, my throat closes, I cant breathe. I have an adrenaline shot compound here to combat it. hope all is well..may want to ask the vet about the shot, in case it happens again.

excellent Cassie! as usual. you did your homework. ANY dog can be dangerous. THATS the word that needs to get out. :D

yes I know I do not live there. and I feel for the people that DO, believe me. this is such a simplistic thing to be fighting over. I dont speak Spanish, but there are a lot of Mexicans here who dont speak good english either. we still try to talk to one another as best we can. I can say please and thank you in spanish. not alot, but they appreciate it. they try to get their points across as best they can in english. there are always those who make an issue out of it, and I consider them troublemakers, since english is the national language here. If I was going to go live in Mexico, or spain, I would do my best to learn Spanish. I think TOLERANCE is the key word here, and its apparently not being practiced very well. pride can be a very bad thing. and what I see here is pride. "my way or the highway"....from BOTH sides. people at some point will need to learn to get along. language does not have to be a barrier unless you let it be. I think both sides are wrong, same as here. IF you can speak the language of the people you are trying to deal with, then JUST DO IT. why is that so hard for people to understand? not yelling at you, I know youre caught in the middle. its just that is is such a SILLY conflict. The french canadians can mostly speak English. Some of the english canadians can speak french. can we all just not get along and get over it?

I'm sorry, but I wouldnt tolerate it. If some moron was letting his dog loose to harass my cat, he would hear about it. I would tell him. point blank, to keep his mutt off my property ( and I would say "mutt" just to aggravate him. I love mutts, personally) then I would tell him if he DIDNT keep his mutt off my property, it would be "dealt with"...no details, just that. then, the next time you see him on your property, with the dog off lead, I would turn the garden hose on him and the dog. FULL BLAST. then when he bitches, you can just say "I WARNED you....next time it wont just be water..." again, no details....also, if his dog is peeing or sniffing on your property, I would cover all his "pee" places with black pepper. regular table pepper, NOT red. First sniff and the dog will explode in a sneezing fit, without harming him any. :evilbat: :evilbat: :evilbat: :evilbat:

ok, I'm sorry. I realize that french-canadians and English-canadians are often at odds, but that's ridiculous. I have clients in French Canada, and if I tell them in French that I dont speak English, they are usually ok with it. Of course, if they want help they have no choice but to speak a compatible language. you cant really discuss technical computer problems in a language you dont understand. I tend to agree with you. If I walk into a mexican restaraunt where no one speaks english, I cant expect them to pander to me. I have heard this before from other people as well. I still think this guy has a case, since the dog isnt taking the course. and retraining him will be very difficult, and probably expensive. sometimes people just need to "get over it"...

It's also probably contestable. The dog isnt taking the course. If he spoke english at all other times, I would say they have no case. It takes almost two years to train a guide dog for the blind. changing his commands from french to english will be very time consuming. the college is just throwing a political log on the fire over this. They are trying to keep him out of the college because he speaks french, possibly more easily than english, although thats speculation on my part. that's pride taken a step too far. The man is willing to abide by all of their language speaking rules, which should be enough for them. It's not easy to train a guide dog. in any any language. good lord, this mans life is already hard enough as it is. he CANT SEE......you'd think they'd bend a little under the circumstances. here in the states, the college would be in violation of Federal Law. You cant deny access to a Guide Dog anywhere, even in a food establish, no matter WHAT language he's trained in. :evil: :evil: :evil: