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good for the australian army!! I wouldnt want those "soldiers" in my ranks. soldiers are supposed to protect, not inhumanely and cruelly abuse.

yea, me too..... :o

done. I sent it to the foster mom's to forward to their website where I got my foxhound.

really!! I was told by a doctor you cant....when I had kidney stones and was in so much pain. they kept upping the dosage of vicadin, which does nothing for me. Vicadin phases me not at all. except to make me dizzy. he told me I couldnt get morphine without being in the hospital. They ended up giving me something else that worked better, but it wasnt morphine. Percoset maybe? that sounds right.... sorry about the misinformation.

I was making jokes about this too, on another thread. Freeb is part lab and pointer, and does both without training. I found that part interesting in that article too, how the pointer points instinctively. I was considering calling her a "Point Lab".....she could go ahead of the troops and watch for the enemy....pick up a duck or two on the way.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I have to agree. A working dog needs to work. When man first started crossbreeding dogs for a certain job (which people seem to forget was the whole purpose in the first place) they were concentrating more so on the working traits that were necessary for it to do its job, not on how it would look. The border is famous for it's "eye". That eye was developed to make the sheep move for it. Without it, it could not herd the way it does. The GSD started out as a herding guard. It could herd the sheep, but it's other primary function was to protect them from predators. Those farmers needed a dog that could herd and protect, so it was easy to transition the GSD into a guard dog. Labs originally were bred (from Newfies and another dog, possibly from Labrador, no one is absolutely certain, but the Lab actually originated in Newfoundland) because the fisherman wanted a smaller, lighter dog with shorter hair that could still withstand cold water and hard work. The original Labs had wide blunt hard heads and chests. very well muscled, and webbed feet. This was to enable them to swim fishing nets to shore, they needed the wide head, neck and chest to carry the weight. A true working Lab looks like a prizefighter from the front. Some of those traits were bred out after being brought to England to be used as bird retrievers. The webbed feet were no longer necessary, and the mouth had to be bred to be soft to not injure the birds. My Foxhound was a working dog. feet wide and round like a cat's, runs with the stance of a cat, large lungs and knees, ankles and hocs. all of it to enable a long day in the brush, and the inevitable firing sprint at the end of the chase. I compared pictures of mine to an English Foxhound on the web yesterday, a show dog. The differences were amazing. THAT dog could not have hunted a fox if it's life depended on it. It's feet were smaller, it's knees and hocs were not the strong, knotted hunting ones, it's muzzle was too short and it's ears were slightly pointed. Hunting hounds ears round at the tip to prevent injury. Beautiful dog? yes. MUCH prettier than Laurel. Useful in a field? absolutely not. Laurel could run circles around her laughing at her the whole time. and Laurel is 6 years old. This one was 2-ish. I was reading the articles about her, and even there, it was suggested that a field trialed hound is NOT a good pet, unless you have acreage for it to run on because it HAS to run, every day. they suggested a show dog for a house pet instead. In saying that, they are basically admitting up front that the show dog cannot do what the dog was originally bred for. My point? (sorry this is so long) in breeding ONLY for looks, and show, as was mentioned earlier, the gene pool gets smaller and smaller, and the diseases and potential injuries to the dogs gets bigger and bigger. That's why I have always firmly believed that there should be a blending of the two, for show purposes. The dog should be able to prove it can at least do the minimum amount of work it was intended to do at the beginning.

I think your MorAphine is the same as our morphine...extremey addictive. pain reducing drug. only used when the pain is so bad nothing else will help. used in the military in the field for extremely bad wounds. only used here in hospitals when NO OTHER pain killer will do the job. its BAD STUFF unless propery used and monitored.

[quote name='Tammy']I can wait :-) It will be well worth it! I love seeing pictures of other people's ASD's. :-) I've only had one dog that showed any sign of being a guard dog. I had him at petsmart and there was not a single dog or adult that could approach my infant son with out me feeling his grumble going up the leash. Several times I had to pull him away or ask someone to back up. They hadn't heard him growl. I just felt it.[/quote] GOOD FOR YOU!! The growl people hear is the warning. the one they DONT is the THREAT... dogs can hear it and respond. People dont... :wink:

good for them. if the dog was temperament tested and passd, then let it be adopted out. this is a GOOD thing. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

glad its not just me...morphine here (if its the same thing) is so tightly regulated you cant even get a prescription for it. You have to be IN the hospital to get morphine, and in some major extensive pain. I cant imagine getting it over the counter, or using it as a stomach settler... :o :o

I like Animal Precinct. I am especially fond of Anne Marie Lucas, who does tours trying to get the word out to people about how to properly treat their dogs. The ruling in detroit is NOT made by the animal cops, but by the shelter itself. I heard that they got burned in a bad lawsuit after adopting out a Pit that turned aggressive and bit a child. Dont know how true that actually is. Now I know not all Pit's are like that, but they cant afford the lawsuits under any circumstances. I know I have heard both Lucas and the other lady say they are sorry about the rule before. I really like cell dogs. That show rocks.

WHAT??? you mean dog and cat hair is NOT supposed to be in the food? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I too put the plates down and let the dogs finish them off. this makes my son crazy, even tho I have explained a zillion times that the water in the dishwasher is hot enough to handle it.

morphine? like the pain killer? you can buy it over the counter?

well, back when I had Jarvis I lived in a townhouse that I was renting. The landlord had it in my lease that no repairs were to be done during the day when I wasnt home. So I came home for lunch one day (as I often did) and found my cat in the parking lot, and the front door open. I went in slowly, to see what was going on. There was the complex Maint man, leaning tiredly against the wall inside the door, and Jarvis laying down staring at him. Not more than 4 feet away. Turns out he had workorder with the numbers transposed, and once he walked in, Jarvis stopped him in his tracks and wouldnt let him move. He had been standing leaning on that wall since 9:00, and it was now 12:30. Jarvis wouldnt even let him sit down. All he said was "can I GO now?" as he picked up his tools and left. Jarvis never threatened him, but if he moved he would stand up and block him in. He couldnt get by.....

I could go for that!!! there ws some town that had a major problem with mosquito's but didnt want to spray the bug spray for them. They investigatd, and built, these "natural habitat" bird condo's and attracted mosquito eating birds to them. I dont remember what type of birds they are.... :oops: :oops: anyway, in the matter of one season, the mosquito problem was pretty much resolved. the birds got well fed, and well housed, and the mosquitos got toned down to reasonable levels. I thought that was a kinda unique solution...

Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, the "post office bomb guy", (whos name I cant remember), John Wayne Gacy, ALL of them have a history that started with abusing animals. 'nuff said... DO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE ***NOT*** SEE A CONNECTION????????? rant over.. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

and I agree with that BK - better to probe than let possible abusers go unreported. It's just aggravating when YOU are the "considered abuser" and you KNOW you didnt do it. It's a two way street, I know. :roll: :roll:

I loved it. laughed all the way through. these people are so, well, ANAL about it all, and I have been told that in the real show world, alot of them are like that. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I **LIKE** this woman. got past the hysteria, to the facts. you can enact laws til your blue in the face. you cant force the criminals to obey them unless yu really work on it. its the law abiding people that suffer in these cases. While I feel bad for the owners of the rooster, I wouldnt want one Cock-a-doodle-doodling outside my window at dawn every morning, either.... I want to find a way to get rid of the stupid morning dove that starts in at dawn every morning outside my bedroom window....some of us arent morning people. :lol:

it's been proven scientifically that interaction with pets (dogs and cats) releases endorphins in the brain, which eases pain, and brings joy. that;s why hospitals are more open to the idea now than ever before, especially with children and elderly. that's why people get pets (has been postulated) because the pets dont "make you do stuff", "always like you" "never think you're bad" "love you no matter what"...etc. they dont care if you're not beautiful, will put their heads in your lap and say "I'm sorry" in doggy ways when you had a bad day. forgive you if you yell at them, without holding a grudge. they are GOOD for people. was this an accident? I, personally, dont think so.... :angel: :angel:

everytime I see it I think of the tune it was based on. An old 70's tune called "Camp Granada" (I think). Its a letter home from a kids first summer in summer camp, and all the trials and tribulations he has to go through. The song is really funny.. :D

I love it. Looks like a yellow lab puppy. too cute...

oh hell, mine get into it all the time, over bones. the sit on the floor and snarl and snap at each other, neither making contact. it's the contact to look out for. Most of the time it's posturing "get outta my face!" "Leave that alone, its MINE!" "GO AWAY"...if their mouths touch, theres never any damage done. If you order them to stop, and they wont, then you have an issue. my order is CHILL OUT!!!!!! and they both get a two-fingered snap across the muzzle. I am just reminding them who;s boss, the "snap" does not hurt in any way. then they are sent into time out. one to a room. they know the timeout command too. usually they can work it out on their own, I just cant take the noise after a while.... :wink:

let me share an example of how this can happen. My niece (sisters daughter) got "nipped" by the neighbors dog. She lives in Colorado, and in the mountains, and all around the farmlands are watering canals for the crops. any biting, whether serious or not, has to be reported. While my sis and the neighbors were talking to animal control, both my niece and the dog got out. yes, neither was paying close attention. too true. When my sis realized Kate was missing. she called all the neighbors and then the neighbor by her realized the dog was missing as well. they searched, for over an hour. The neighbors dog was seen standing on a roadway near to one of the watering canals, barking frantically. they followed it down and there was my neice, in the canal. the water was 33 degrees. they brought her out, and were able with severe rescusitation attempts to bring her back. She was legally dead. the cold water kept her from sinking out of life completely. the same dog who nipped her, saved her life. she will never be completely normal, but she is alive and can carry on a reasonably normal life. kids DO get out, no matter how vigilant you are.

[quote name='pLaurent'][quote]prepares to be slammed for dog abuse[/quote] You should see the abuse (well, "abuse" according to my dog) that goes on in my house at BATH time! :o[/quote] well, slam me too then...Laurel HATES her ear medication, and bays (and SOOO loud) whenever she sees it. she also hates her melatonin pills, but takes them. Now as far as Pits. I have to agree that a well bred Pit should never bite a person for any reason. Nor should they want to. barking, warning, that's one thing. all dogs do it. but well bred puts should be peeing their pants to get to people. to love on them. I believe that dog was not a well bred Pit, and may in fact be a mix. You CANT mix these dogs with guarding breed dogs, IMO. IT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. now for the other side of the coin. Most of you know this already, but for the new people..... I have a Lab mix. Part Lab, part, GSP, and maybe, part Shepherd (her tail is all wrong for either of the other two. so is the shape of her head). she is NOT people friendly, she is NOT children friendly, she does NOT like strangers. she doesnt like alot of other dogs either. Basically, she's a bitch. No pun intended. I know that. this is a dog, although she looks like a purebred Lab, that could attack someone. and hurt them. However, if she did, some idiot reporter would say it's "a lab gone bad", or "atypical of the breed"...something stupid like that. Yet, she would probably not be put down, unless she killed or seriously injured someone. now, if she escaped from the yard I doubt she would injure anyone. But on leash, she wont let people approach me, or dogs, or kids. she is overprotective to the whole nine yards. she would get away with it. A pit or Pit mix would NOT. I am begining to believe there should be a DNA test run on these dogs to try to determine what exactly they are. if that's even possible.