Horsefeathers!

This is the absolute last thing on the "care" section I can see!!! Nothing past this is visible to me. :o

Too bad about all the problems I'm having with disappearing posts lately. They're there and then they're not. I'm about four hours away and if this dog isn't like 4+ Hw+, I could probably have fostered her, treated her and placed her, assuming Corgimama didn't get her. Too late for me to plan anything now. I wish I'd been able to find this. :-? Corgimama, even if you don't decide to keep her, is there any chance you could get her out and buy her some time? Worst case scenario, she goes back, but at least maybe buy some time...? I've gotten a few really good adoptable dogs out of the pound just to buy them a little time and placed them with people I knew were looking for something similar. Just a thought, but don't feel guilty if you can't. You didn't dump her there. :o <---That's me right there with "SUCKER" written all the way across my forehead. I don't know if I'll be able to view this thread again. This site's gone all wonky on me.

I'll be a goldanged, mothertruckin', Sunday beach!!! Someone tell me what's going on. No, nevermind; don't. It won't matter; I won't be able to read it!! I posted a thread here and when I clicked back on the "dogo index" crapola main page, I could see where "Horsefeathers" was the last to post, complete with time stamp. When I click to read it, the absolute last subject I see on the page is the "Pizzle" thing, dated 11/01 and nothing further, though I KNOW I just posted. $#@! This is frustrating! Where the fork are these posts going?! I see them in the categories, then can't pull them up!! ACK ACK ACK!!! Keep in mind that any responses to THIS post will go unseen by me. I can't pull it up once it's posted. :-?

What a knobhead I am. I thought [u]most[/u] dogs did the circle 'round and scratch and kick thing. Even my 3 females. All of them do the scratch and kick thing from time to time, but my female Lhasa Apso, Misdemeanor, ALWAYS does it. She's in full coat, so I often think it's a game to see how much dirt and crud she can fling onto her back :x . She also does the leg lifty thing to pee. Since we're sharing weird poop habits, anyone else have a dog who will back up a tree to take a dumpsky? My Schnauzer, Simon, backs up the tree. Lemme give you a visual. Front feet on the ground, back feet as high on the tree as he can get them and turds rolling down his belly until they roll off his chest. Weirdo. :-?

[quote name='Horsefeathers!']Nevermind... I'm lost now. :-?[/quote] ^^^This was in response to having just spent 20 minutes typing a post and posting it, only to find that about four most posts had appeared and that what I typed was in relation to what I had first read which has changed significantly each time I look, so I pulled my long post..... In other words, nevermind. :-?

Nevermind... I'm lost now. :-?

People like this can make me nauseous. Of course, small dogs need training. Too many people think that snappy, yappy behavior is "cute" in the little ones. Nothing could be further from the truth. Nothing about a snappy, untrained dog, regardless of size, is endearing at all. I have several small dogs, along with the big ones, and they ALL get the same obedience training. My toy Poodle travels with me EVERYWHERE I go and it was imperative from an early age that she learn how to behave properly. There is no way I would have a little playground thug on my hands. It's kind of a pet peeve of mine, too. I have several groom clients with small dogs who exclaim, "I can't do a thing with him/her!" in reference to a little 7 lb. terror gnawing on them and running the household. These are people who believe you shouldn't "enforce" any kind of rules on these poor little delicate creatures. Be for real! I have no idea what makes people think this way. Many small dogs are very intelligent.... I guess just smart enough to train their knucklehead owners. If this woman is so concerned about how you "mistreat" your dog by not just letting her run and be free with NO structure and training, I wonder what she's doing to make a difference in the grand scheme of things. I wonder if she's involved in any rescues, with her local shelter, stuff like that, instead of being a meddling playground busybody. I just believe there is a difference between someone truly trying to help and someone who is just an annoying busybody. Don't you dare find somewhere else to train your dog. You have every bit as much right to be there as she does and if she continues to meddle, tell her as sweetly as possible that her advice is greatly appreciated, but unnecessary and thanks for stopping by, see ya later and buh bye. No need arguing with her about WHY your dog needs training. If she believes that all dogs should be allowed to run at will and act as they wish with no structure, you'd only be trying to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. Not worth it. Sorry for the rant. Just the way people get aggravated about the buttwhistle boneheads that give all Bully breeds a bad name, I get frustrated at the neverending supply of jackasses with untrained small dogs who perpetuate the myth that all small dogs are yappy and snappy by nature, instead of by lack of training. :x

Corgimom, they're BULL PECKERS!!! :oops: Unless you're talking about this >> :shocked!: <<That's a shocked face. Two bulging eyes and a tiny dropped jaw. What did YOU think it was?! :o

:shocked!:

If you're already having reservations about the mother, that's already a bad sign. Poodle coats are indeed hereditary. If you are looking for a Poodle with a proper coat, I'd suggest contacting a breed club for referrals to a reputable breeder. That's your best bet if you are really concerned about a proper Poodle coat. It's not just supposed to be curly. It should also be harsh, not soft and cottony. Unless you plan to keep your Poodle shaved down, or brushed out thoroughly several times a week (if you intend to keep a longish clip), you do NOT want a cottony coat! Some of the breed clubs can put you in touch with the breed specific rescues. I recently adopted a Standard Poodle from a rescue that got him from a show kennel (breeder became gravely ill and assessed the dogs... the ones that qualify will be shown; the rest were adopted as pets). Gorgeous dog with (yay) proper coat. All Poodle puppies will typically have that soft, cottony fluff until their adult coats come in. Looking at the parents will give you some idea of what those adult coats will be like. If the parents are cottony coated, it's likely the offspring will be. At best, it's a coin toss. Good luck from another Poodle fan. I have a Toy and a Standard.

No pictures, but I know a couple of people who have Lab/Dachshund mixes. Yup, that's right. Figure that one out. Would seem physically impossible. They look alike, 'cept one is brown and one is yellow. They both have Lab sized bodies and [size=2]itty bitty li'l teeny tiny[/size] legs. Ironically, both of these dogs are named Booger. :-?

I have never been bitten by any of my own dogs, but I have been nipped by a couple of groom clients. I guess when I think about how many dogs a year I handle, it's a wonder I haven't ever had a serious bite, or more nips. Only one time did it draw blood at all and even then I had to squeeze and pry at it to get that one drop of blood. :roll: Maybe I'm not putting a major curse on myself by saying this. It'll be my luck that I'll have my face chewed off tomorrow by some longtime regular that I would never expect it from. :-? Hubby did get bitten once and six stitches in his hand plus IV antibiotics when he tried to pull a little Beagle out of our (long time ago) Bulldog's mouth (he was a fighting Pit rescue, so VERY dog aggressive, but contained in our yard... the Beagle was roaming). Our dog had the Beagle about like an alligator and was shaking him like a rag doll. My husband grabbed the Beagle to pull it out of our dog's mouth and the unappreciative little $#@! nailed him. Nasty bite. Nothing to do with anything, but can you believe that the Beagle owner had the nerve to talk junk to us and threaten us for "letting" our dog attack his in OUR OWN yard? :x

I dunno.... maybe it's a regional thing, but if you could see what the street thugs here and even some of the "professionals" are doing with the GSDs, too, it would make you cringe. Around here, when people get ANY kind of "protective" dog, they tend to want it mean. I don't know how to explain what I'm trying to say. For example, GSDs, though poorly bred ones, are fast becoming popular around here as "bad" dogs. Why? Because people see them on COPS and working locally and they want one that they think can do the same. Around here, GSDs are going to h*ll in a handbasket just because people have this image of a badarse police dog and they LIKE it. If I hear one more person bragging about their "police GSD" (as if that's a particular breed), I'll scream. In my area, Pit Bulls used in police work would do a tragic disservice to the breed IMO. It may be different in other areas, but I would hate to see it here. With the precarious situation of Pit Bulls as it is, I just don't see anything about watching them take down someone, regardless of the circumstance (work) as good publicity. Add to it the media hype the first time footage is shown of one taking a criminal down and it gets sensationalized to death. Any "good publicity" will be out the window. Keep in mind that Pits are under far more scrutiny than probably any other breed. What is all in a day's work for a GSD will be under scrutiny for a Pit.

K, I'm laughing [size=7]with[/size] you, not [size=7]at[/size] you. 8) You [u]are[/u] laughing, right? :o

Might be about time to talk to your vet, Corgi. I've sat here since that post about my Penny being on Clomicalm and thought about it. Not only is she nicer (for my other dogs) to live with, she really does seem to have mellowed. She isn't sedated at all, but she isn't nearly as high strung. Less barking and less frantic behavior along with (yay) decreased bouts of aggression. She is still digging tunnels to China, though, and still chasing squirrels :roll: . Ah, well.... Anyway, a consultation with the vet couldn't hurt.

[quote name='anne3149']I would go to the vet and explain the situation. He will probably put the dog on a drug called Clomicalm. It takes a few days to work.[/quote] Duh, what a dumbarse I am. Upon reading this, I realized that my Pit/Boxer mix is taking Clomicalm to help control random acts of aggression. I just realized that she doesn't spend nearly as much time barking as she used to. She used to stand at the fence, too, and BARK BARK BARK. Great side effect. I don't know how you feel about what I call mind medications, but I have always been a cynic who feels that far too many people count on drugs to make them, their kids, or their dogs "normal." It doesn't make me very popular with some folks. However, having this knucklehead (said with affection) has made me a believer. Sometimes medication IS necessary. See? I can be taught. :-?

Deepsea, you can breathe a little easier. That whole shrunken in a bottle kitty thing [b]is[/b] a hoax. It's been around quite a while, but it's been proven to be a hoax. Don't sweat it. Connie, you are correct.

[quote name='gooeydog']Teacup Yorkie?? :o[/quote] :o <<<Me with sealed lips. Goo, I wanted to go there, too...

One other thing to consider... In some states, it is illegal to "get rid of" a dangerous, or attack trained dog by changing ownership. In other words, you can't sell it and can't give it away. The ONLY acceptable legal thing in these cases is euthanasia. I have a dog labeled as dangerous and the only way we would ever be able to "get rid of" her is to euthanize her if we were not able to manage her (fortunately, medication and verrrrrrrrrry close monitoring keep her under control... we DON'T WANT an aggressive dog). If we were to rehome her with the best of intentions, even to someone qualified to handle her and who knew her background and said that they were willing to take that responsibility, and she were to attack someone while in the new owners' care, we could still be held responsible. Something to think about.

I don't know a thing about Simple Green, but I do know Wellness and it is indeed FAR superior to Eukanuba. Eukanuba is basically high priced garbage. Go with the Wellness.

Lol, funny you should mention that. We've always called our humble domain the island of misfits, thinking about the same Rudolph story. Sooooooooo.... when do you get your new puppy? :lol:

No doubt. Me being the touchy feely kind of soul I am, I think I would offer to take the puppy and give it that chance (only speaking for myself here... not implying what YOU should do... goes back to that whole look into your heart thing you just pointed out about the other people :wink: ). It seems like the odds are pretty good for this guy and I'm just too big a sap not to give him that chance, even if I didn't intend to keep him (though I've never successfully fostered a dog... they all stayed :-? ).

Hobbit, I would wait. If indeed [b]most[/b] do outgrow it, then, well, those are pretty good odds. I really don't see any reason not to wait and see.

I don't know about this. The problem I'd have with seeing Pits used in police work is that I think it would give even more ammunition to the BSL people. Think about it from the point of view of people who already hate them. It would seem to me like they would be thinking that training them to do police work (attack) "proves" that they are bad dogs and therefore dangerous. I'm just very uncomfortable at the thought of giving these dogs any more negative publicity than they already get and seeing them used as "attack" dogs, regardless of the circumstances, would give the die hard BSL folks even more fuel for their fire, I think.

Here goes me, jumping right back into the hot seat. I know this is a very unpopular view among many and I bite my tongue sometimes until it nearly bleeds trying to stay out of this kind of debate, but I am adamantly anti PETA. I am glad to see sites that do show the flip side of these people. I think that information should be as widely available as the propaganda. Because I could see this getting ugly, I'll just leave it at that. I don't want to stomp all over someone's feelings, or engage in a lengthy battle. I am as passionate about my beliefs as the PETA lovers are about theirs and I would only be villainized for loathing them the way I do ("but PETA is only looking out for poor defenseless animals... how could you be against that?"), so it would be pointless to argue. This is just the kind of thing I think SHOULD be available. Sorry, K. :(