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I have a friend with 3 dogs. she called me frantic today because her one long haired dog had gone in for grooming. bath and "fall trim" (as she called it) she brought Brighton home (malamute mix) and the other dogs have been snapping at him and growling. he looked very "uneasy" according to her, and was just taking the abuse, which he normally would NEVER do...I got there. Brighton smells like a flower array (herbal essence smell) and has a bandana on his neck. also smells like flower array. They bathed him in something very flowery, and put the bandana on. I had to request my groomer to NOT do that with Jarvis (I couldnt stand it) during his semi-annual "trims"...he would make himself dirty rolling on the lawn in every nasty patch he could find. which is what we did with Brighton. I took him out, took the bandana off, and let him roll in fresh cut weeds, yes, weeds...I have a brush pile behind the shed. After rolling in the weed, he was much more confident (the flower smell was gone) and the other dogs stopped snapping at him. who would think shampoo would cause an issue??? we gotta stop treating them like people.... 8) 8)

they know. I know they know. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

the kennel I board my dogs at is exemplary. they have big cages where two dogs can house, and little outside enclosures attached to the inside cages, with flappy doors, so they can go outside and yet not escape or be harmed by other dogs. they also have a big seperate play area that they take the dogs to. they clean the inside cages first, after putting the dogs out, then clean the outside ones. the dogs never have to soil in their cages, they always have the outside enclosures for that. a good kennel is more expensive, you get what you pay for. one of the dead giveaways is the smell. there will always be smell in a kennel, but it should not be overpowering (liike an uncleaned cat box) but rather smell like dogs.

my lab fought the GL as well. for her, I have a no pull harness, and while she still pulls some, its a Godsend. She is not ripping my arm out of the socket anymore. different dogs respond well to different things, that's all... :)

I too think epilepsy meds after one seizure is a bit excessive. they dont even usually do that for people. the doctor normally waits it out, to see if the seizures are re-occuring, and frequent. I believe with people epilepsy has to be diagnosed by a cat scan, so they can see the "wavering" brain waves. It's a neurological disorder, not a physical one. There are portions of an epileptics brain that dont function properly. it responds erratically to stimuli that non-epileptics blow off. I remember a story about a girl who had seizures every day on the bus on the way to work. prior to this job she never had an issue. The eventual diagnosis was the picket fence, that "flashed by" the windows as they were driving by. it sent some sort of erratic brain message to her body. strobe lights can set off an epilepsy attack.....I personally would not yet go with the meds. it really takes a neurological scan to determine if it is true epilepsy. there are forms of epilepsy that can cause anger manangement issues as well. I remember watchng a CBS documentary on a soldier who was thrown out of the military for constant fighting. it seemed like absolutely nothing would set him off. and he would seriously hurt the other person. I lived with my parents at the time, and the show was saying that this man would just go ballistic during things like obstacle course training. While I was watching it, I remembered the lady on the bus, and I said to my mom "I wonder if he's an epileptic?" thinking to myself that the constant motion and changing of positions was similar to the picket fence incident. At the end of the show he was diagnosed as an epileptic, and my parents accused me of having seen it before. :roll: :roll: None of this info helps you I know. I guess my long rambling point is that I would not go for the meds until a neurologist has looked Re-run over.... :oops:

It was the sugar one I was thinking of, but I cant remember the other ingredient either...peroxide? was that it? I could try the other one too. thanks

can someone please repost the thread on natural ways to suck out infections? I cant find it, and now that I have a somewhat handle on this I would like to try it. the "gunk" is much less than it was, but I know the infection isnt gone completely. and the AB's are running out. I would like to try the "sucking out" part. poor girl. her silly floppy ears are doing her in... I would like to get it out completely, and then air out her ears to prevent it from coming back... thanks 8)

spritz it with bitter apple (available at most pet stores) it doesnt work for every dog, but in most cases does. one bite, they back off. most dogs think it tastes rancid. vinegar might work as well. :)

Laurel has a really bad ear infection, which she had when I got her. She has been before on ear drops but now is requiring antibiotics cuz it wouldnt clear up. the AB's are working, it's loosening and coming to the top (when she shakes her ears) and I am able to clean it out. Now, for the question. I have been airing her ears out with HF's pantyhose method. In the week or so I have been doing this, her fear factor has reduced. She is less skittish, more friendly, less likely to run off. Could this infectin be impairing her hearing, and if so, could that make her more skittish? and less so if she can hear better now? I personally think yes, but I'm no MD and would like other peoples opinions please...

honestly, if I could afford it, I would shrug it off. Kyle will be 18 in 3 months, so the payments would have stopped then anyway. He has medical bills that need paying, and I have credit card bills (for his medicine and such) that need paying. I dont want to bust his dad, but I need the money. I am hoping my lawyer friend can work out a payment plan with him. [quote]We actually have cat owners who come in and get the distemper and the leukemia vaccines and decline the rabies because "he doesn't go outside." I give them the a little speech everytime but they don't care. I don't understand what they are thinking.....[/quote] DO, what County are you in? Here in Kane, no rabies, no pet. They'll literally take it away....unless they've never had one. then I dont think the county can track it.... :o :o :o :o

she;ll be fine!! dogs are much resilient than people, my son has a titanium bar in his leg (dirt bike accident) and it took 6 weeks for him to be up and around. She'll be better in no time!! :angel: :angel: :angel:

Desertlady, I'm thinking it was the leukemia vac that did her in. That was the one she got in that leg.....if she's going to be an inside cat mostly, does she need that vac? maybe DO knows...the only one required by law is rabies, but I always do distemper too. K, he decided to stop paying because he wanted Kyle to come live with him (so that he wouldnt have to pay) and Kyle is old enough (by law) to decide that for himself, and he said NO. It's been over a year now since he sent me a check, and he owes me in excess of 8000.00. I have had to cut back on everything I can, because Kyle needs his meds and decent food, more so than me since he's still growing some. He got PO'd at me when I told him Kyle's decision. He and his son do not get along. His dad is the "my way or the highway" type, and that doesnt work with Kyle at all. Compromise is not in Kevin's vocabulary....even over the "small stuff". (like when to take the garbage out on Sunday, Monday is garbage day. I honestly dont care WHEN he does it, as long as its on the curb by 7:00 a.m. his dad used to make him get up from his favorite show and take it out. Whats the point of that?) and he's a teenager, and being one there is only so far you can be unreasonable before he starts being unreasonable back. Him and I rarely ever argue, I understand his side, he understands mine. I would say "Garbage has to go out before you go to bed" and he'd say "I'll do it tomorrow morning" - to that I replied "if you dont I'll be in your room waking you up. Count on it". during the summer he doesnt want to get up early, so he takes it out at night. Crisis averted. Now its not an issue anymore, he starts a new job in two weeks and will have to get up anyway. By why make a big deal out of that? As long as it gets done, who cares when? I used to clean the house at 11:00 at night, because I am not a morning person. My ex always had an issue with that as well. He's fast asleep, so I have to be fast asleep as well? He gets up at dawn, so that means I have to? that;s what I mean by "my way or the highway".... **sigh**

my webcam bit the internet-dust...I am cameraless...I'll have to borrow Kyles....[size=1][/size] :oops: :oops: :oops:

she looks perfectly healthy to me. 3 legs is not really a disability for dogs, they get by just fine. people hesitate to adopt them tho. so your 3 legged dog will be very happy with you and your gang. :angel: :angel: :angel: you're an angel HF!!!! :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:

Ford got her shots yesterday, and they didnt sit well. her leg is sore, she is limping, she;s not lethargic but doesnt want to play. She is eating and drinking ok. there is a slight stiffness to the leg she got one of the shots in, but other than being uncomfortable she seems ok. tonight its much better than it was *had me worried for a while* Laurel is licking her (which annoys her) and insisting on being close. she is in my lap (spoiled kitty!) and Laurel sniffs her every so often. and checks on her if she mews...its so cute... :angel: :angel: :angel: I checked with the vet. She said sometimes the shots can cause pain and stiffness in the leg they were given in. I gave her an ice cube..why? I have NO clue. but she's having a great time with it.... :angel: :angel: :angel:

I KNEW IT!!! I KNEW IT!! as soon as I read that "not for a while" I thought...yea, unless that while includes another Dobe with special needs.... [quote]I had emailed Sheilla, the Dobe rescue coordinator who set me up with Rocco, about his death. I hated to write that email like you wouldn't believe, but she needed to know. I was sure she'd be upset with me. [/quote] If she has been dealing with Dobes a long time, she knows the possibility of bloat. Its possible with any big dog. WOOOO HOOOOOO FOR HF!!! Rocco sent Peaches, I'm sure of it. :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:

oh HF - sweetie, not to worry. Big dogs bloat, unfortunately. One of my close friends lost her greyhound to this. He was boarded, and he bloated overnight when the kennel staff was all gone. yu arent to blame, sometimes it happens and there isnt a lot that can be done once its started. My heart, and Freebee's, Laurel's, PushyCat and Ford's all go out to you. Be at peace my friend. You gave your all to this dog, like you do all your "kids"....you gave Rocco mucho love and care, you know it and we all know it. Guilt is not necessary. I know how you feel. When I had to put Alex down I felt I had failed him somehow. He was incurable, but still, there should have been something I could do....Kyle summed it up best. "You gave him your heart, your love, and made his last days as good as they could be...." :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:

[quote]Then again, they give out Ol' Roy biscuits, but I just don't have the heart to say, "sorry, but you have crap for snacks." [/quote] probably NOT the most politically correct statement.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I know I'm probably overcautious, but I know people who have had their dogs poisoned. I'm just not willing to take the chance. Mine are probably on the bottom of anyones poisoning list (A lab and a foxhound, not exactly contentious animals) but a Rott I would be extra careful with. Theres a lot of weird, nasty people out there... 8)

the guy was probably harmless, but I wouldnt make a habit of letting a stranger give your dog food. there's too many weirdo's in the world....and some of them dont like your type of dog. do I sound paranoid? yes, I am about people who offer my dogs food. I would simply say "I dont allow them to take food from anybody. sorry. dont want to start a bad habit..." and then just talk to the guy. :D

good luck to you and rerun. let us know how it goes.

Majies, I honestly dont have the money to spend. I am on a very stretched budget right now. I have a son who is a diabetic, I am a diabetic, and our medicine is very expensive, even with insurance. Plus the mortgage, and feeding the kid. He is a growing teenager. The child support covered the food he eats, and a little more, but thats it. Now all of that has to come out of my pocket. That's 500.00 a month. so to get my shots for 84.00 instead of 230.00 was a big load off my mind. If I had a medical problem with them, they would go to the vet straight away. But just for vacs its not necessary. and I cant feed cheap food to myself or my son, because of carb/fat restrictions. and I wont feed Ol' Roy to the dogs. we go through 4 bottles of insulin a month, at 30.00 a bottle. after insurance. in one month, we take 150 shots. a box of 100 needles, after insurance, is 40.00. That doesnt include blood sugar testing strips, lancets, and all the other medical stuff we need to control this illness, and it doesnt cover the utilities and the mortgage and the gas for the cars. it's expensive to have this illness. With no child support, I have to take every available means to cut costs. This seemed like an acceptable one to me.

[quote]I do think I read "wild and crazy", "owners that see them as cute hyper bundles of joy", "small and cute but very deceiving"........ [/quote] you summed it up perfectly yourself. They are all of these things, but in a big dog that would be unacceptable. Small dogs get away with a lot more, because they're small. In a Pit it would be catastrophic. I think the point being made was that small dogs need just as much training as big ones. How do we convince the owners of this fact? :wink: Personally, I think JRT's are wonderful, in the right hands. little bundles of joy, if trained properly.

Debbie, I dont think that was meant at all. Jack Russells are terriers, terriers are known to be more outgoing and in need of exercise, more so than some other dogs. Yours are well trained, as all dogs should be. I would guess hers were not. this was a multi-deplorable incident. The fence should have been kept in good repair, and fence running should have been strongly discouraged. I got so sick of the fence running here that I put "blinders" in the fence area where the two Chi's are. Fences, unfortunately, often cause more aggression between dogs. JRT's can be aggressive, if not trained properly. Same as any dog. They are spitfire little dogs, with a lot of heart and soul in a small body. Some people think because they're small, they're harmless. We all know differently. But did this woman who owned them? probably not... :fadein:

I think you should take him to a vet. He may have been stung by something venemous, and while he seems better now, that kind of reaction is dangerous. Also, stroke is a possibility. Just for safeties sake I would take him in

yea I intend to look into that. Shots are second nature to me. I would have no issue with doing them myself, for any of the animals (of course, it will take two to do PushyCat. Someone will have to hold him while I jab him :lol: ) but I dont know if they allow it here. I have to check Monday. Ford seems better already. she's purring and while not playful, at least not lying on the floor looking like someone tortured her...(hmmm. could be deliberate? "oh woe is me?....") :lol: :lol: all in all, it was not a bad experience at all. I talked to the other people in line, people came up with small kids and actually ASKED if their kids could pet Free and look at Ford...Free was very good to everybody. I honestly think being around gentle Laurel has tamed her some. I just wish Laurel had some of Free's spunk. who knows, maybe some day? They are both happily chewing on bones I bought while there (like I could EVER get out of Petco withOUT buying something...) Ford was a big hit. She is such a friendly kitten, likes everybody immediately. Purs for everyone. One little guy looked at me dead on and said "Can I have her?" and it was such a beseeching look I felt bad saying no...I had to explain her name about 10 times :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Now I have heard in the past bad things about Petco, but this one has always been a model store. They take good care of the animals they sell, have them in life-like environments, the cages are clean and the temps are right for the reptiles and such. They even take really good care of their fish. They have thermometers on the cages that people check all the time (seen them doing this) to make sure the reptile cages/tanks are correct. all in all I am pleased with the outcome. and surprised as well. However, I dont know if other Petco's would have the same good experience...