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Johnny - none of us here are interested in doing this!!! We are AGAINST dog fighting. The only reason we were wondering what rolling was, is because in another post it was mentioned that "temprement test rolling" is not the same nor as bad as "fighting". I (and I think I can speak for some of the others) am dubious on this point and we were trying to get further clarification. At present I am of the belief that fighting is fighting no matter what it's called but am waiting for an explanation as to why it's not.

Pureed fruit. I just buy it in little single serve tubs from the supermarket, you can get lots of different flavours and it's not fattening either.

I have added you Mouse :D

That is a great site, thanks for posting the link. From what I have seen there are lots of sites like this for various breeds, which as well as describing all the great things about that breed, highlight the negative traits (if that's what you want to call them) and describe what is needed on your part to be a responsible owner of that breed. I just wish more people would read them when deciding on what breed is the one for them.

oh I forgot to say how gorgeous she is :D

The pen sounds like a good idea however I would still set the alarm for a few times during the night so you can take her outside and encourage her to go potty out there. It makes you as tired as hell for a while but it does speed the potty training up. :D

no matter how many times I see that it still makes me smile :D :D :D

NORTH OF THE RAINBOW BRIDGE MakWa4me (Siberian Husky version) revised for all sled dogs by Stephen Peters The time comes. A sled dog lifts up its head. There is an untested adventure beyond. Time to go. Across the Rainbow Bridge is a place for all dogs. A river runs wide and shallow with tennis balls that fly with their own wings; that is the place for a Labrador or Golden to await its master's arrival. A sled dog is not content here. Northward is its trail.... There are soft pastures for Aussies and Border Collies, with sheep and geese to pen. Agility equipment grows like trees amid Frisbees and fly balls. But the North continues its sure wild call, and the sled dog's journey continues.... Now the air is colder. Now the moon is always full. Now the light is silver and it breaks and shimmers on fields of bright snow. Now there are no roads, no walls, no pens, just endless space to run. This is where the sled dogs, Alaskan Malamutes, Samoyeds, Siberian Huskies, Alaskan huskies, and others gather, North of the Rainbow Bridge. They wait in this beautiful place, happy, but not complete. Suddenly, a howl begins, as one dog senses someone coming, someone very special. All the sled dogs raise their heads and join in the ancient chorus. They dance like moonbeams and sing like winter winds. There are red ones like dawn streaks, black ones splattered with many colors and silver ones like the first strange hour before light. They line up as if in harness and run together, in a scintillating, many-colored streak. The leader of the team guides the others past the fields and river, with racing feet and racing heart. They rush to greet the new arrival at the Rainbow Bridge, where the leader is rejoined with its beloved person, never to be parted again. The glory of the reunion is celebrated by all the sled dogs dwelling beyond the Bridge, a shimmering, multicolored team leaping and whirling with joy. The light from that scene is what we see on magical evenings in the northernmost parts of this Earth: The Aurora Borealis, the Northern Lights beyond the Rainbow Bridge.

Pumpkin, I am so sorry to hear about Aesa :cry: :cry: Think of her everytime you see the Northern Lights.

Welcome back :D So glad the op went well and that Rufus is back to normal. Love the pictures - he is so adorable and sure is growing fast. How old is he now?

I've added you too Kat..... Ellie is right you really don't know what you've got yourself in for though... we are a bunch of chatterboxes :wink: Aroura you need to keep with the times and get on MSN... :D you too Mouse :D

Wow :o , thanks for the info Cassie, I didn't really realise there were so many different types. :modla: :modla: I can't sing the praises of Frontline enough. I put the little stickers on my calander and Indy gets it applied every two weeks without fail and I have never seen one single flee on him.

From what has been discussed before, I believe... gameness isn't desired for them to be a better fighting dog.. gameness is the trait that makes them more stable and therefore better family pets. However the "roll" is the test that is needed to prove the gameness. I'm not saying I agree with this as I don't really understand it but just wanted to make sure that the points that are being made are being understood.

I don't think this topic should be locked yet... it seems that it's all the regular members posting and even if there are conflicting opinons I'm sure we can keep it civil and so far it seems to be.

[b]K wrote...[/b] [quote]Does anyone here actually know the difference between supervised, structured "temperament test game rolling" and set up dog fighting in a barn in the dark with drugs, drink and gambling on sick gunpowder fed abused pathetic scrapping dogs?......[/quote] I for one don't and would honestly like to know the difference. I have seen the term "rolling" used by Hmmm quite a few times but to me it always seemed like a euphemism for "fighting". K, I understand your point in regards to the set up of "temperament test game rolling" but what I don't understand is once the dogs are together in the ring or pit (or whatever you want to call it) what do they do that is different? Isn't fighting fighting - aren't there still two dogs going at each other trying to cause the other one harm? I have wondered this for a while but not wanting to open a can of worms have never asked - well the can already seems to be open so what the hell :wink: I really would like to know the physical differences in laymen

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Congratulations - that is such good news!

Can you give a dog too many bones? Someone mentioned to me over the weekend that if you give a dog too many bones it will constipate them? Is this true, and if so how much is too much? Indy gets a big recreational marrow bone about twice a week and gets a small portion of brisket bone (eats the whole thing) about three times a week.

that's always the way isn't it :wink:

Hi Aroura, Your training club sounds great... very similar to the one we go to. It's run by volunteers and is not there to make a profit - we pay $10.00 annual fee and then $2.00 each time we go. Here is the web site to my club - check out the picture of Indy on their photos page [url]http://hdtc.8k.com/[/url] Also good on you for volunteering to be the minutes secretary.

[quote]I have heard that about Mals. I have been told by owners (who may be biased) that they may not be the best obedience dogs but that's because their smart and are always evaluating just what their place in the pack is and how much they have to do keep the alpha happy enough.[/quote] Exactly. Indy is very smart and he picks stuff up very quickly but he won't always blindly obey, I can see him evaluating whether it is worth his while. You are probably thinking geez what a pain in the ass, why would you want a dog that won't do as it's told all the time, every single time, but if you go back to what they were bred for then this trait is essential. If a musher had a team of dogs and say he tells them to go out over the ice... the dogs need to be able to evaluate whether the ice is safe and if it is continue but if not stay put. The dogs that blindly obeyed and went out over the ice every time just because they were told to probably wouldn't survive to pass that level of obedience on to their offspring. This is not to say you can't do obedience with them - you just need to work on it a bit harder and from what I have heard from someone else - be prepared to be humbled. She is trying to get an obedience title for one of her boys and some days he is an angel in the ring and does everything to perfection - other times he can play up to the point of embarrassment.

All the herbal info looks good, though I don't like Maize being the main ingredient.

LOL DP, Indy is the same - he either drinks the water, tries to climb in or lies on the floor and chews the bath mat :-? I don't bother with baths much anymore. Though sometimes showers are not much safer.. our shower does opens out and Indy likes to lie in front of it - one day he would just not get up when I told him..... I thought I was going to be standing there all day. In regards to the dying issue I really think it's a matter of opinion. I personally don't really like it - but that's my opinon and I don't believe I have any right to force that opinion on others (again assuming that dog safe dyes are being used).

Dito to all of the above.. although I am going to add something to which I am probably going to get flamed for.... I understand that there are lots of dogs in shelters that need homes but in my opinion that doesn't mean that that responsible breeders shouldn't continue breeding. I purchased my dog from a responsible breeder and yes paid a fortune for a show quality dog - however I'm not interested in showing I just wanted a healthy baby who because of their parents OFA rating has a significantly reduced change of getting hip displasia etc.... Quite a few people I know of who have rescued Malamutes are now dealing with HD (ranging from mild to severe cases). I may be selfish for not wanting to go through that I but I personally want the odds in my favour in regards to medical issues and if that means buying from a breeder then so be it.

Behle, I love the Farside cartoons and I have seen that one - it's hilarous :D (I'm from the midvale school for the gifted - I tend to push doors when the need to be pulled :lol: :lol: )