Hobbit

Corgilady -- BREATHE....take a minute to reflect. The removal of the fence is a civil matter, not a police matter - because it is not a criminal act. The statue of limitations may not have expired. If you chose to press the issue, please contact small claims court. It really is a sad state of the mind, when a person thinks that they have no rights because of fear. Fear being if they exercise their rights as a person, the other person that is trying to take their rights will retaliate. Corg - men seem to think that they are the supreme being and will talk to a woman as they please. If you were a man, I guarantee this male neighbor would not be talking to you in this manner. Being nice, sometimes will get you NO WHERE. To men, this is a sign of weakness and opens the door to a long period of verbal abuse and mental abuse. HE is now under the impression that you are such a nice person and that he has you intimated. He will continue to demand things of you that are not within the scope of your right of leading a happy life. By all means, do not ignore this. This is my personal opinion, because I am this kind of person. First I would contact the police department, have an officer come to your house and file an "Incident" report. Include any threats or any comments that eluded to threats. I would write him a certified-return receipt signature letter requesting that he pay for the cost of the new fence that you installed, plus labor. I would send a copy to my attorney. If you don't have, find one. Include the boundary line. Give him 10 days to respond in writing. DO NOT verbally talk to him about this. If he catchs you in the yard, tell him he needs to contact your attorney and WALK AWAY. You must be willing to follow thru. People as this are pretty sure that they are above the law, because they have gotten away with their arrogant attitude and abusive nature. If he fails to respond within 10 ten days, file on him in small claims court and make sure that you also add in your request, the cost of the fence, the cost of filing with small claims court and that if you win and he appeals that HE will pay all subsequent court costs and an attorney of YOUR choice (for you). If your city does not have a litter ordinance, state law should. Start taking pictures of HIS trash blowing from his yard into yours and the street. You could pick up all his trash and deposit it BACK onto his yard, front porch, unlocked vehicle (haha), garage, without him seeing you. Of course, if it were me...I'd blazingly pick it up in front of him and throw it back into his yard --- that's me, tho. By all means, be firm. NOT nice, firm. It could go either way: a continual Pi$$ing match or he could think that you are not going to be pushed around by the arrogant man. I thought one of the points of having a fenced yard, on the place that YOU own (or rent), that is your sanctuary, your domain, is so your dog could have a safe place in which to play -- unsupervised, if necessary. I'm not talking about just letting them run amuck and do as they please. If we all lived in a perfect neighborhood, with perfect dogs, perfect neighbors, perfect job, perfect education (although, some of us think we do), then........this would be perfect. It's not. A dog does not need 24/7 supervision. If a person thinks it does....they are a control freak.

[quote name='eric'] But listen, good luck with your situation. And thanks for being patronizing. That was refreshing. I haven't been patronized since I got my masters in Mechanical Engineering. Luckily for me my debilitating inability to comprehend did not inhibit me graduating top of my class and starting my own successful company 4 years ago. [/quote] Eric, there is absolutely no need for sarcasm and was uncalled for. By your posts, it is obvious that you are an educated person. By this comment, it is obvious that you are lacking in some people skills. I have people skills, but I'm at the age where I don't care anymore. Being nice gets a person no where because it is a sign of weakness to some and an invitation to abuse mentally, verbally and/or physically.

Ditto the :lol:

That was a good movie. I felt incredibly sorry for the dog.

[quote name='Poofy']Did you know it is AGAINST the USDA rules to have breeding animals in your home? Thats right, no whelping puppies by your bed is allowed. You will *HAVE* to house your dogs, just like the commercial breeders, or be in contempt of the rules and regulations of the USDA. This type of regulation will also make the cost of dogs sky-rocket, and the pet owner will pay. [/quote] Please post the exact rule and regulation that says this. Hum.... I was unable to locate this on the USDA webpage. Maybe, I just missed it.

[quote name='alicat613']I suppose that someone was me? [color=indigo] ...um... yes. [/color] I was simply trying to answer the question: "I was wondering if there was a natural, home remedy I could give her to kill or slow down the worms until she sees her vet Thursday night." The answers I gave were and are tried and true natural methods of diminishing the worm population in the animal and can help the chemical wormers do the trick. If you do not believe me, check out some books on homeopathic remedies for dogs. [b][color=violet]This was not then or is now being disputed.[/color][/b] Hobbit, I'm glad the red was not meant as I took it. The blue is fine too, although I think I'd like purple best. :D [color=indigo]Violet and indigo is as close as I can get.[/color] I simply think you are misunderstanding my post. My comment about OTC wormers not killing all types of worms was to inform this person so if they did choose that method to make sure she knew what kind of worms she had and got the right wormer. There are no OTC wormers yet that I know of except through the Jeffers Pet company (catalogue) that are effective with tapeworms. [b][color=violet]There are normally 4 species of parasites that infect the dog: Hook, round, whip and tape worms. Tapeworms are not likely to kill a puppy. Round and hook worms can and do, if the infestation is severe enough. Whip worms can cause anemia and can lead to death. Tapeworms can wait, hooks and rounds can not (should not). [/color][/b] As for fasting, I think you are reading it that a short fast will kill some species of worms, that is not what I meant. A short fast on a healthy animal who is not being overwhelmed by worms can weaken some of the worms (of any species) that are in the animal and can help remove some of them. [color=indigo]Hook worms & whip worms are blood suckers --- a fast will not weaken this parasite. Round worms can lay dormant --- a fast will not weaken this parasite, either. Tape worms do share the meal, but it is very unlikely that a fast would weaken this parasite, either. This is simply an untrue statement. Parasites live in the soil; therefore do not depend on the gut contents of the dog. The round worm can lay dormant for a long time inside the dog; thus not depending on the gut content of the dog. [/color] Coupled with the other methods I listed, garlic, the addition of grated vegetables and pumkin seeds, after a short fast, and adding these things in to the animals food before and after the fast, these ingredients irritate the worms further and help eliminate some more of the worms. This helps the wormer at the vet be more effective. [color=violet][b]Sorry, but I have to disagree since the wormer normally used by vet is either Pyrantel Pamoate or Tartarate or Fenbendazole. Mebendazole and Thiabendazole is also used (not as much, but is used). These are very effective and would work just as well on a healthy robust worm as it would on a dimenished one. [/b][/color] I personally would never recommend an OTC remedy from Walmart (or any such type store). I have had terrible experiences with OTC chemicals, which while rare, do happen. The loss of my kitty and the health issues that lasted months in my (human) family and other cat will never again be worth the risks of using such harsh chemicals in my home. I know many people have great results with some of these treatments, but they do carry risks. [color=indigo]Old Lassie is Pyrantel Pamoate and does work, it is found at Wal-mart. Cats are known to be sensitive to many things.[/color] And if someone can't afford to go to the vet for a worming, there are low cost clinics all over, including in Petsmart themselves. I can't tell you how expensive that little bottle of Hartz flea control was, both financially and emotionally.[/quote]

As soon as I can get this to load (been trying for about 2 hrs, no luck)....I'm sure they are cute. So, this means you could also send a movie/audio of the *scream*?

Gigi > good ending for a seemingly wonderful dog. Good work and big pat on the back. :P

So, in other words.....by selecting traits that are homozygous, a person can fix a gene (a trait that is coded by a certain gene).

You didn't open the can, someone else did. :wink:

[quote name='Jacsmom']Here is something else I think...(I do it so rarely :lol: ) I think that when a procedure like Guy's is used as a more or less guinea pig type thing or a learning procedure for the Ortho. surgeon or even a vet, it should be half price. Yeah like that is ever going to happen!! :o[/quote] Half-price? Half-price?? What about FREE? Okay, that sounded a little white-trashish....lower price would have been nice. Never, never, will we do this again. If this sort of thing ever happens again, the dog will get his leg fixed, but NOT with a halo. Oh, the Vet's name in NC is Denis Little.

My thoughts are still with you.

[quote name='K']Hobbit the Brand name of the dog wormer is Mansonil Plus as for the human one I just use a stores own as it is really cheap :oops: only about E0.30 per person and it covers all worms known to infect humans...just being on the safe side ya know :wink: it is time to do it again soon and I'll tell you the active ingredients when I get a new box...O.K.?[/quote] [color=red]Okay by me......thanks. [/color]

[quote name='alicat613'][quote name='Hobbit'][quote name='alicat613']The over-the-counter remedies do not work for all kinds of worms. Also it's good to get the puppy checked out at the vet. [color=red][b]OTC dewormers; Pyrantel Pamoate is the same chemical that you can obtain from a vet. It will kill round and hook worms. [/b][/color] A short fast (not a full day for a puppy) on liquids (chicken broth, water) will kill some worms. They get food from the pup, and if the pup has no food...neither do they. [b][color=darkred]I have never heard of this. Please tell me which species of worms this will kill. If this is true, then Coyotes and Wolves would be worm free. Not being sarcastic, but since this is a public forum...I would hate for someone to read this and then instead of deworming their dogs/puppies, they just withheld their food. Worms are parasites, most live off blood (not food the animal eats). [/color][/b] [/quote] [color=red]Personally, I would rather see someone go to Wal-mart (the evil place) and purchase "Old Lassie" dewormer (which is Pyrantel Pamoate), before they withheld food, waited any length of time, or didn't deworm at all. An infestation of Hook worms can be fatal to the puppy.[/color][/quote] WOW. You people need to learn to read, as in each word, rather than skipping half and seeing what you want. If you had read what I said thoroughly there would be no need for all this tacky red font. [color=blue]I don't know what is with you, or if this is just YOUR tone, but I was not being sarcastic (but if I need to be, I surely can and WILL). The red font is so you can easily see it within the quote --- so there is NO NEED for YOUR crappy comment. Is blue okay?? I DID read EVERY word and am still waiting for your answer.[/color] As I said, "The over-the-counter remedies do not work for all kinds of worms." The do not kill tapeworms. [color=darkblue]You did not specify which parasites (worm) you were referring too. If someone were to read the label then, they would be aware that tapeworms were not included in the purge. [/color] "Also it's good to get the puppy checked out at the vet." [color=blue]There was absolutely NO dispute on this, this is agreed.[/color] I don't feel that novice owners should try to treat all their own problems with OTC. Going to the vet is good. [color=darkblue]Some people can not afford a vet visit everytime the pup has worms. It is better to treat hookworms and round worms than to let it go until finances are available. It's not rocket science, a novice can deworm their puppy....if they can read a label. [/color] Your statement about wild canines is ridiculous. [color=blue]Please feel free to elaborate on this, if you can. [/color] I never said a short fast kills all worms. [color=darkblue]You never answered my question of which worms it DOES kill?[/color] Again, if you had read correctly - "A short fast (not a full day for a puppy) on liquids (chicken broth, water) will kill [b]some[/b] worms. They get food from the pup, and if the pup has no food...neither do they. [color=blue]I DID read it correctly and EVERY word....now WHICH worms will it kill?[/color] Again, no danger of people simply withholding food, for if again, you had read correctly, you'd note I said short (not a full day) and that it will kill SOME worms. [color=darkblue]AGAIN, WHICH WORMS? The more I read, the more this is beginning to look as though you are questioning mine and many others intelligence....gee, I really hope you are NOT doing this. [/color] I do not believe in simply loading a dog with chemicals. I personally choose herbal remedies which have far less toxic effects and work just as well. [color=blue]That is wonderful. And thank you for the information. [/color] The advice I gave are supplemental things you can do to help a wormer be most effective as many times a pup must be wormed twice to get all the worms. These SAFE and effective methods can help reduce and weeaken the worms to make whatever method you use more effective at eliminating them completely. [color=darkblue]If a person does NOT eliminate the parasites, the weakened ones will become resistant at whatever you are using (natural or otherwise). This is why it is important to rotate the dewormers. [/color][/quote]

[i]"You are getting into line breeding and hereditary not crossbreeding first generation and mutts, like many will tell yu it takes years and generations to get a traight to set into a line". [/i] Would you elaborate on this statement?

Thanks, he's having a wire removed today. Something interesting, a paper was written on this very procedure in 1998; 7 dogs were used in the study; 6 out of the 7 dogs had complications! HINDSIGHT......... :-? BUT the conclusion was that ALL dogs made a total recovery. I'm trying to get the radiograph's posted so you can see them. He made remarkable ..... lost my train of thougth ...... have no idea what I was going to say! Senile, I tell ya!

[quote name='K']Cheers Hobbit...some how I missed the replies to this Firstly the OTC De-Wormer I have is against hook,round, and thread worms it is for all ages including pups and pregnant females and it contains niclosamide monohydrate and pyrantel pamoate and it is meant to be used every 3-4 months Secondly as thread worms can and do infect children I also give everbody in the house a human worming tablet too Thirdly the vet will be alot happeir with you if you have showed at least some initiative and tried to de-worm your pup instead of leaving it to suffer tummy ache![/quote] What is the brand name (if you don't mind me asking) that you use for your dogs and humans? I assume that you are d'worming the humans with Pyrantel? Growing up, the livestock would be penned and ran the thru chute for a good deworming; then us kids would be given a dose. That was some nasty tasting stuff! We've been alternating between Pyrantel Pamoate and Fenbendazole for the dogs. Even though they are on a monthly heartworm preventative that also deworms for rounds and hooks; sometimes we'll deworm 2 wks after their HW pill. I don't like using *Droncit (for tapeworms) because it contains Toulene (which is a cancer causing agent).

[quote name='Carolk9s'][quote]though I would gladly decapitate an intruder[/quote] mental note to self, NEVER EVER SNEAK UP ON HORSEFEATHERS![/quote] :lol: :lol: .....and NEVER, EVER just drop by unannounced either! :2gunfire: :lol:

[quote name='Poofy']apparently not too closed as you seem to be reading it.[/quote] Well......MEEEEOOOOWWW.....Poof Doggy Poof! No need for sarcasm.

......hum.....I bet we have some old tires laying behind the barn. How about curb feelers!!? :lol: The vet sent me digitalized radiographs via email. I will not attempt to post them, since most people get the dreaded [b][color=red]X[/color][/b]. I'll put them into a webshot album and post the address in a few days.

[quote name='alicat613']The over-the-counter remedies do not work for all kinds of worms. Also it's good to get the puppy checked out at the vet. [color=red][b]OTC dewormers; Pyrantel Pamoate is the same chemical that you can obtain from a vet. It will kill round and hook worms. [/b][/color] A short fast (not a full day for a puppy) on liquids (chicken broth, water) will kill some worms. They get food from the pup, and if the pup has no food...neither do they. [b][color=darkred]I have never heard of this. Please tell me which species of worms this will kill. If this is true, then Coyotes and Wolves would be worm free. Not being sarcastic, but since this is a public forum...I would hate for someone to read this and then instead of deworming their dogs/puppies, they just withheld their food. Worms are parasites, most live off blood (not food the animal eats). [/color][/b] [/quote] [color=red]Personally, I would rather see someone go to Wal-mart (the evil place) and purchase "Old Lassie" dewormer (which is Pyrantel Pamoate), before they withheld food, waited any length of time, or didn't deworm at all. An infestation of Hook worms can be fatal to the puppy.[/color]

With heartfelt sympathy......sorry for your loss.

It takes years to *create* a breed, NOT something that can be done in 63 days.

My thoughts are coming is spurts --- yes, he will have to wear some sort of support for awhile until he regains his muscle tone. I don't know what he'll we wearing. An Equine shipping boot would work.

[quote name='Carolk9s']Thanks for the update Hobbit, I was wondering how Guy was coming along. I too am curious, why will he need to wear the bubble wrap cast forever? Is it flexible? Is it for support? Perhaps the meds Guy was on threw his stomach chemistry out of whack? Maybe he needs some yogurt or pepcid for a while?[/quote] He started randomly vomitting after the first operation to fix the initial break in his leg (back in August). We've taken him now, to 2 different vets and can't seem to figure out why he does it. You maybe right about the yogurt or pepcid. I'll try the yogurt first and see if that helps.