Hobbit

People that cross anything with the Border Collie absolutely P+SS me off to the ends of the earth. The sports people are in the same category as the show breeders who care nothing about the *HERDING* ability of the herding dog. People as myself and others are spending YEARS nurturing, selectively breeding, genetically breeding the herding dog to do what they were "created" to do --- [b]HERD LIVESTOCK[/b]. And the sports people, NOT CARING ONE BIT, are coming along and just breeding to whatever will run the fastest. What do they do with the puppies that don't make it in flyball? Do they keep them as pets? Do they sell them to pet families? How many of these crosses have ended up at the shelter because the *PET* family couldn't handle a JRT/BC --- the combination spells disaster!

[quote name='alicat613']I think this is a wonderful idea! After all these people desperate for a mixed breed to compete with go get one from the shelter, and eventually all the shelters are empty and all the dogs in the world have great homes, then sure, breeding mixed breeds would be great. But first I think the world needs to take care of the ones we already have, all the sad furry babies in need of homes and love and treats.[/quote] Ali --- they are breeding these mixed breeds ON PURPOSE. They aren't getting them from shelters.

[quote name='DieselChick']Hey i know this isn't really related..well it is a bit..but can you actually breed two dog colors to purposely get another? Like if you wanted to breed a black dog would you have to get like a black parent and a fawn or 2 blacks? Also what's the deal with dominat colour genes> Please explain.[/quote] To put it in terms that you could more understand: The black color is dominant. If you want the entire litter to be black, then the parents must be black and their parents must be black >> this is to ensure that the black dogs that you are breeding are not carrying another color, like red. If the black dogs that you are breeding have parents that are any color other than black >> you stand a chance of getting another color, other than black, in the litter. [b]HOPEFULLY, you are not breeding to begin with because there are lots of other things involved than just putting two dogs together.[/b]

Yes, West Nile Virus is mosquito borne.

The other is spinal and brain inflamation and has symptoms as you described for Ben.

[url]http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/distemper/[/url] This is pretty interesting --- MeiMei, this is for you, also.

Do you have West Nile Virus there? It sounds like Encephalitis or Encephalomyelitis. Puzzling.

[quote name='newfiemom']I didn't see a recall for four newfoundlands. I was hoping one would be issued today!!![/quote] :lol: :lol: ....they are too bad to be RECALLED! :lol:

[b][color=red]Great to hear he's better. [/color][/b]Bensam, any idea how he contracted this? Sorry, to pry --- but it helps to know symptoms/causes in case it ever happens to anyone else, maybe they will remember this post and can act accordingly.

[url]http://www.safetyalerts.com/[/url] [url]http://www.safetyalerts.com/currentrecalls.htm[/url] If the first one doesn't work, the second one will.

[url]http://www.ahdf.org/premarin.html[/url] This is not the link, but interesting reading. [b]This is not it either, but does talk about a generic premarin --- [url]http://www.navs.org/news/story_display.cfm?SectionID=News&NewsID=8[/url][/b] I'll keep looking for it.

I am trying to find it. I saw it on the 20/20, 48 hrs, Date-Line --- one of those type news stories. Give me a few minutes and I'll try to find it.

A synthetic type of premarin is being tested. If it acts like the researchers think it will......there will no longer be a need for mares or their hormones.

[quote name='laduenda'] American Pit BUll terriers can be chained and it is the safest method of containing them. [b][color=red]The *safest* method would be in the house or in an escape proof enclosure. Since this dog chewed up a plastic crate; a wire one would have worked. But, you are probably going to tell me that he would tear up the house. Thus -- this means he was not trained properly.[/color][/b] A perimeter fence is reccomended as the chain will not keep animals out of your yard. I disagree that chaining makes dogs mean as long as they are properly socialized and are exercised the will be fine( they may have some pent up energy but no more than they would if they had been kept in a kennel) I have seen tons and tons of chained Apbt's and none of which were unhappy or agressive. [b][color=darkred]This may by YOUR opinion, but it is FACT that a dog's fight or flight drive kicks in when they are approached by either a person or another animal when they are on a chain. They have no place to go --- thus, they can't FLEE, so they must fight.[/color][/b] When my dogs are chained they are quiet when they are kenneld they bark non-stop so they must prefer the chain.I think it is cruel to keep a dog in a shipping crate all day but most humaniacs agree with that. [b][color=red]If your dog is properly *crate* trained, they are quiet. The crate becomes their den and they are SAFE and secure. [/color][/b] He was now 6 months old he was contained in a six foot fence during the day when the owners were away at work this particular day the naighbors dog was running loose and tormenting TAZ through the fence TAZ jumped the fencew and grabbed that dog the owner called Animal control and they took TAZ away .The owners of TAZ went to the Shelter paid the $300 fine took TAZ home and put him on a Ten foot chain they walked him every day aftyer they came home and TAZ was very happy. [b][color=darkred]Why do people think that a dog is *happier* pulling around a log chain, a 10 foot one at that, as opposed to being loose in a yard! He is only 6 months old and pulling around a 10 foot log chain. [/color][/b] The nosy neighbor took it upon herself to snoop and saw that he was tethered and she too thaught it was cruel she called animal control who then made The owners of TAZ release him from the chain. [color=red][b]KNOWING that he could get out, why didn't the owners take messures to ensure that the dog did not escape? A wire crate is much better than getting your head bashed in![/b][/color] The next day TAZ got outand they came home to find him bloody and swollen with blood coming out of his eyes The neighbor(another one)Confronted them and said that he had done that to TAZ. They immediately asked him if he was OK and if TAZ had hurt his dog he said that he was fine and so was his dog and that TAZ had not bitten either one of them he had just seen TAZ coming picked up a brick and started bashing his head in. But the Animal control came again and TAZ was let off again and he got out again and he did it again. [b][color=darkred]I'm trying to make sense of all of this -- they KNEW he would get out! Again, a wire crate (they DO make them, I know many people with APBT's that use them) would still be better than knowing putting the dog in harms way. [/color][/b] Well Poor TAZ had one last chance and since that neighbor lady would not stay out of their buisness they decided to get a 8 foot wooden fence put up in addition to the old one(they didn't want TAZ cooped up in a 6by8 run all day). [b][color=red]Oh, let me say this as sarcastically as I can: oh, they didn't want him cooped up in a 6 X 8 run, but are more than happy to chain him up with a heavy log chain ALL THE TIME. OR, knowing that he escapes, does NOTHING to contain him......AGAIN, a wire crate, they make them in LARGE and EX-LARGE would be better than him getting his head bashed. [/color][/b] He didn't get out and all was well. Until the Monsoons came in the middle of the night(I now they could have kept him inside but they didn't)It knocked down the fence that they had built and TAZ was loose the woke up to the sound of dogs fighting they knew that this was TAZ's last time and they ran outside to find people beating him with a bat while he had another dog in his mouth(this is rediculouse as those of us with Apbt's know this won't work) anyways TAZ got put to sleep that night and he was only 1 year old . I know that there are things that the owner could have done to prevent this but the neighbor was the main problem and guess whose poor doggy TAZ had gotten a hold of that night? [b][color=darkred]NO, the neighbor was NOT the main problem. The irresponsible owners are to blame. There are so many other methods to contain a dog other than CHAINING, if it's against the city ordinances. [/color][/b] Your right that nosy neighbors dog .I really hope she learned her lesson. My point is please do not outlaw the chaining of dogs but push for more regulations such as the length of the chain etc. [b][color=red]The length of the chain. Yep, a dog is going to be very happy on a 10 foot chain as opposed to a 6 foot chain. He just can't wait to lose his freedom in a yard --- that could be securely fenced....yes, that was sarcastic. Not meant to flame you, but ignorance is no excuse on the dog owners part. There are other methods and it was clearly THEIR fault the dog was put to sleep. The dog was merely being a dog. [/color][/b][/quote]

Gigi -- shame he is stuck on a "pup". I know where an awsome German Short Hair pointer is. She is showing lots of ability and is young (under a year). Poofy, sorry, but have to disagree with you. There are many, many hunting dogs that aren't registered that are way better hunters than the AKC registered ones. AND with less health problems.

No, we had CAKE! Is it too early to sign ... Ding Dong the witch is gone. Which old witch? The wicked witch! Ding Dong the wicked witch is gone. (Actually I think, it was "dead" in the Wizard of Oz, but I wanted to be politically correct?.

We feed Strongpoint (Naturally Premium). We would like to feed "Exclusive" --- but it's way out of our budget (for now).

[quote name='pzoo9']Hobbit -- You are most likely correct on the cross breeding with the shelties. That [u]could[/u] explain why my dog looks so much like a little Aussie, but not quite. Maybe she was a breeding program reject, or just a back yard accident. Who knows? I probably never will. [url]http://www.mascaonline.org/History.htm[/url] is the mini-aussie party line. I am sure you are already familiar with it. It says someone got together with a veterinarian and came up with a plan to breed them smaller. I read between the lines and assumed they bred smaller with smaller. My mistake. I just don't buy it that it is a genuine breed.[/quote] I don't buy it either they are not a fullblood, but a cross breed.

[quote name='corgilady'][quote name='Hobbit']Kindergarten? Well, that leaves me OUT. I didn't have to go to Pre-K or Kindergarten, just too smart I guess...... :lol: :lol:[/quote] ohhhhhhhh tell the truth Hobbit, they wouldn't let you IN!!!! [size=1]something about that pet SHEEP......[/size][/quote] :modla: :sheep:

I should have put it on a sticky ---

Egg -- make sure Duck does not dehydrate. That is the main concern now. Offer her water in small amounts, several times -- like every 15 minutes until she stops drinking.

Kindergarten? Well, that leaves me OUT. I didn't have to go to Pre-K or Kindergarten, just too smart I guess...... :lol: :lol:

[quote name='TLCPETS'][quote name='Poofy']Yes, your right, true "blue" is dilution of color..the trick though would be trying to help some one understand the difference so that the genetics could be worked out...[/quote] Yes but 2 blues and a black in a litter from a blue and a brown sable makes it hard.And then three blues from a blk/wht female and a blue male all the puppies are from light to dark blue makes it harder.You can tell by looking at littermates the darker the blue is the better the hair coat.[/quote] There is nothing hard about it, at all. We've went over the blk/whi to blue mating and why there were blue puppies.

What's just one more puppy? Just one more..... :lol:

I'm beating Gigi to this: Get him some Pizzle sticks (sometimes called Bully sticks, bull wrinkles).