xavierandrea

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For anyone that has been following my situation here is an update. As you are already aware of Patti has her appointment tomorrow to be PTS. I have cancelled this appointment. There is no way I can bring myself to have this done. I admit that Patti has issues that needs to be delt with and having her PTS seems to me the easy way out. The vet wants to see her and run test to make sure there is no underlying issues (health wise) going on with her. So I am taking her tomorrow for that instead. I have been reading up on dog on dog aggression, NILIF and other methods of working with her. Seeing that I am having my baby in a few more weeks I'll be home for at least 3 months. During this time I will be able to work with Patti. I do currently have the girls seperate. I thought that would be hard to handle but it is not. I rotate the girls indoors and out. I do not want to give up on any one of my dogs. I love them too much! I will try anything and everything to help the situation as long as my family members are safe. I have also contacted Free's trainer and waiting to see it there is any open slots for her to help me work with Patti, if Free's trainer is unavailable then I will move on to Asim's trainer. I now there is help out there for her and I am determined to fine it.

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JC- You are the "newbie" that doesn't have the whole story. If you go back and read my posts ummm maybe from a year ago you'll see that I have been working on my girls and they were doing fine until just recently! We are pretty much all adults here and we do not need you to " OPEN OUR EYES " for our own benefit or whatever your trying to do! I have nothing further to say to you! Have a good day!

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JC WHY DO YOU KEEP ON INSISTING I AM MAKING MYSELF AS A VICTIM??? WHY DO INSIST THAT I AM LOOKING FOR SYMPATHY?? DO NOT AND I REPEAT DO NOT ACCUSE ME OF LOOKING FOR ATTENTION!! I WAS LOOKING FOR HELP AND ADVICE. ALSO I HAVE TAKEN FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY ACTIONS!!!! WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THAT I AM NOT STANDING UP TO MY MISTAKES?? SINCE THE FIRST TIME IN YOU POSTED IN THIS POST YOU HAVE BEEN NOTHING BUT NEGATIVE AND I AM TIRED OF IT! SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU STOP ACTING LIKE GOD AND PUTTING ME DOWN AMD FLAMMING ME FOR A HUMAN MISTAKE THAT I HAVE DONE!!!!

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LisaH. We have an outside kennel that I will be using for Patti and also if weather is not permitting I will have her on the front proch. Since it is summer here I beleive the kennel is suffice.

JC- I never asked for PITTY! I asked for advice on how to deal with the situation. If you feel that I am looking for PITTY you can forget it because I am above that! I am sure I know my own situation!!! NOT YOU! OK. I never said I was the victim here. Patti is the victim!!! If you think that everyone who is looking for advice is portraying themselves as VICTIMS your far from the truth. It is obvious that I am doing something now to correct my mistake!!!!!!!!!!! P.S. No need for your WAKE UP CALL!!!! I'm a big girl and I can wake myself up!!!!

JaquelineC. I think you are missing the point that my girls didn't always fight. Always when they did begin fighting nothing became of it. My girls were best friends at 1 time. I had all the dogs in the house because I was working on the stay command. I am glad that your "GUYS" never got into it!!! If you asked me a year ago I would have said the same thing! Unless you are in my shoes DO NOT JUDGE ME!!!!!!!!!! No one wants to find out that there beloved pet has gone crazy! My son is doing fine. He says he stills loves all of them!

I just got off the phone with the shelter. They will not take Patti. They stated that she since she is known to attack another dog and in the heat of the attack bite a human she is deemed vicious. They said she needs to be PTS :cry: :cry: . I need to have her quarentined(sp) for 10 days and then take her to our vet. I called the vet and made the appointment for Saturday 7-31-04 at 10:25am. I feel sick! I can't beleive that it has come to this! The vet is calling me later to explain why dogs become aggressive and ask some questions of me. I can't even see the keyboard through my tears! God please forgive me for taking the life of one of your creatures!!

Firstly I want to thank everyone for your well wishes and advice. Thank you so much. Secondly the worst happend yesterday. The girls fought once again and this time was probally going to end in the death of Free if Asim and Ro didn't interfer. The fight lasted at least 20 minutes or so! Asim pulled on Patti and she let go of Free, then Ro grabbed Free and pulled her into the bedroom. But before the fight ended guess what happened!! Xavier got hurt, pretty badly I might say! He received 7 stiches on his arm. The fight began within inches from him and he was trapped in a corner. I kept telling him "DO NOT MOVE! WAIT UNTIL THEY GET OUT OF THE WAY." He didn't and the cut/bite happened. My mind is made up and Patti needs to be rehomed, there is no place in my home for these fights!! I do not beleive that spaying will help at this point. Ro is so mad at me for keeping Patti that he slept on the couch. He even yelled at me, and if anyone knows Ro he never yells. He is the type of person to come through the door after work, nod his head to day hi and then sit on the couch and watch a movie. In the years that I have known him I never heard him yell or use any curse words. Well yesterday for the 1st time in our realationship he yelled and use the F work :o . He is a very quite man and minds his own. So I know he is very angry at me. I'm waiting until the shelter opens so I can call them and have Ro drop Patti off. Thank you for listening to me!

I honestly believe that if Patti stopped starting the fights Free would not take over.

Patti starts the fight and neither girl is willing to back down. The fight usually stops when we make alot of noise, Asim inters or in the case of last week my son interfers.

Asim- male 1 1/2 not neutered Free- female almost 3 spayed-fighting Patti- femal 5 not spayed-fighting

Here's the link. My girls fight every so often, they were fine until last week. [url]http://forum.dogomania.com/viewtopic.php?t=14202[/url] Any and all suggestions needed.!!!!!!! Please.

When I said talking.....,, I [i]really [/i]want to say yelling :oops: :oops: , I was trying to be nice. That is the only time Free does it. What is the NIFIL Policy? :-?

It doesn't look right!

crazy canine> I am sort of doing that now. Patti has free roam of the inclosed front porch. We have a couch and a crate out there for her. We have a fan in the summer and heat in the winter. I thought that wasn't fair. I want to keep her and rotate between the girls the porch. Is that possible. She is 5 years old I'm afraid that she'll spend the rest of her life in the shelter because of her breed and age. Oh, 1 more thing I mention they a long long time ago when I joined a year back, Free is spayed and Patti is not. I wanted to have her spayed after we did Free but Free had some complications and was very sick. That made me change my mind. I wish I didn't change it now. I want to go ahead and spay Patti because I know that will help with aggression. Should I wait a little until after the spay to see how she is acting or is that useless. Or am I just tryikng to find excuses to keep her????

:oops: :oops: I went on the NERR website and I started crying, but today Ro says I need to call the animal shelter and get things in order or he will. I have more of a bond with the animals than him. Don't get me wrong he loves the dogs but he was raised a dog is a dog. ( I really don't want to do it!!! Am I a bad owner??? I fell like scum!! Oh look at me I can't handle my dogs!! :cry: :cry: I am so ashamed!)

CONGRATS!

The girls have 2 years between them. Patti is 5 and Free will be 3 in Oct. Xavier told me that Patti and Free both bit him. Patti's bite is atleast 7 teeth and Free's was 1. Neither are acceptable(sp)! I was there to correct both of them. As a matter of fact once they saw that Xavier was bleeding and heard him yell they immediately stopped and scattered away. Asim at that time went to each girl and growled at them then walked back over to Xavier and started licking him as if to tell him he would be alright. I corrected both of them immediatley. Free is the closest to Xavier. She sleeps with him every night, she lets him dress her up and even stands in front of him when I'm talking to him. I'm currently waking up at night thinking about this whole thing. I can't sleep. I feel awful. I can't stop thinking about Patti being alone in a cold cell at the shelter! Currently I have Patti on the front porch which is closed up, but I know I can't keep her there forever. I also know for the safety of my children I can not keep her.

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Great picture of Goo.