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Got my [i]form letter[/i] back from Michael Bryant's office today... [quote]Thank you for your e-mail regarding a province-wide ban of pit bulls in Ontario. The McGuinty government is concerned about community safety, in particular the danger pit bulls pose to people and their pets. Letters and media reports about pit bull attacks have raised questions about whether the province should consider banning these dogs. Some legal protections are already in place. Municipalities already can ban pit bulls under the Municipal Act. For example, the City of Kitchener has a bylaw prohibiting residents from owning pit bulls. In addition, a victim of a dog attack can sue the owner, and owners of dogs that attack individuals may be prosecuted under the Dog Owners' Liability Act. The McGuinty government wants to know if further steps should be taken to keep our communities safe. That's why I've asked my Ministry officials to look into this issue, in particular whether a province-wide ban of pit bulls should be put in place. As you know, I want to hear the views of Ontarians. Please be assured that your views will be taken into consideration in our review of this important matter. Thank you for your input on this issue. Michael Bryant Attorney General of Ontario Minister Responsible for Native Affairs Minister Responsible for Democratic Renewal[/quote]

fingers and paws crossed here for the speedy recovery of your babies!!

:o HF...I am so so sorry to hear about Perry and now Simon! Positive thoughts to you and yours...please keep us posted. :(

Very sorry to hear of Buddy's positive result. I have never been through it so I have no firsthand info to give you...check out this site though . It pretty much covers everything you need to know about HW and the treatment of it... [url]http://www.heartwormsociety.org/CanineHeartwormInfo.htm[/url] good luck! Keep us posted on his progress.

Ohhhh! He's darling!! I am soo happy for you :D To me he looks like a Border Collie mix....maybe your vet will have more insight.... Keeping my fingers crossed for a neg. HW test! I posted the pics for you...hope you don't mind! [img]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UQDxAk0ZlhrisIM7aYmVWxtc3bTpsCO!kD18y3vrTD3focLefrk!wKhhCbronWa0RXql8idxXKcH8wril1W10LNZQ4HdMJv!lph1Ty0zf2QdhleLVHoqokPPbnSamGrk/Buddy2.jpg?dc=4675487559707964385[/img] [img]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UQAQA0wZTBps9KIafL3YgL1CYKlEGSS1dpTTIL52njBu9Yun8G6A!URwltrNFRsELVm8gXh2m1NWzdSluGB8WnPXlbUk34cYPMh1gRbKX3yPq3H64xA2fHcJyDxrM2Bd/Buddy1.jpg?dc=4675487559265290059[/img] [img]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UQAQA04Z4BpgMc5BYfOZYg!HCZnEkmzaD8wADoVbe21H*CaMt7Lz1Y5Hq1jbSgcwPtQGyBXH29O0fsksHvrPma4YaH8F0hbjL5JROoptDXvgGxstIzRvjnULplO!Ndl2/Buddy3.jpg?dc=4675487560155954925[/img]

I am sure if you pm'd one of them they would be more than happy to oblige...it is very useful info.

Great link Matty...thx :D

Oh wait...I [i]did[/i] find the ingredients you quoted....on the same site. [url]http://www.proplan.com/product_detail.aspx?pid=91[/url] It is listed as 'PRO PLAN DRY DOG FOOD- EXTRA CARE SENSITIVE SKIN AND STOMACH FORMULA' however it states that the protein is only 26% and the crude fat is 16% is this the right one? [quote]Guaranteed Analysis: Crude Protein (Min) 26.0% Crude Fat (Min) 16.0% Crude Fiber (Max) 4.0% Moisture (Max) 12.0% Linoleic Acid (Min) 1.4% Calcium (Ca) (Min) 1.0% Phosphorus (P) (Min) 0.8% Zinc (Zn) (Min) 180 mg/kg Selenium (Se) (Min) 0.30 mg/kg Vitamin A (Min) 15,000 IU/kg Vitamin E (Min) 460 IU/kg Ascorbic Acid** (Min) 70 mg/kg ** Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles Ingredients: Salmon, brewers rice, canola meal, oat meal, beef tallow preserved with mixed-tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), tuna meal, salmon meal, brewers dried yeast, natural flavors, salt, potassium chloride, vitamin supplements (E, A, B-12, D-3), choline chloride, zinc sulfate, ascorbic acid (source of Vitamin C), ferrous sulfate, riboflavin supplement, niacin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, biotin, thiamine mononitrate, folic acid, copper sulfate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), calcium iodate, sodium selenite. B-4449 [/quote]

[quote name='Lada Daddy']Oh and I grabbed my bag of Pro Plan...The first ten ingredients are in order: Salmon, brewers rice, canola meal, beef tallow preserved with mixed-tocopherols, tuna meal, salmon meal, brewers dried yeast, "natural flavors", salt, potassium chloride This particular blend has no corn at all. Hmmm...ProPlan Performance blend...WHere did you get the corn thing? Do they have different ingredients in different places? I am VERY interested about that...[/quote] Ahhh...I quoted the ingredients on [i]this[/i] site: [url]http://www.proplan.com/product_detail.aspx?pid=84[/url] The Chicken and Rice formula is the only one they listed under performance blend. : [quote]PRO PLAN DRY DOGFOOD- ADULT PERFORMANCE FORMULA Feed to hardworking, pregnant or lactating dogs. With real chicken as the #1 ingredient, this Pro Plan

wonderful pics! Cruiser is gorgeous...oh and thank you thank you thank you for the Boxer pic!!! :wink:

Not at all....keep the suggestions coming! The more info we can supply her with, the better chance she may find something that works for her.....thanks guys.

I am not a fan of Purina products to begin with , but the amount of [i]corn[/i] in Proplan Performance scares me....it lists corn gluten meal, whole grain corn, [i]and[/i] corn bran all within the top 10 ingredients. (Boxers are notoriously allergic to corn) Even if this [i]wasn't[/i] an Purina product I would run the other way....too much filler and by product. Glad it works for your pups , Lada...although I can't imagine its [i]that[/i] much cheaper than some of the more premium brands??? I know some can get pricey, but I pay $33.00 for a 40 lb bag of Canidae...of which my female gets 2.5 cups/day and my male gets 3cups/day.....so the bag lasts me close to a month.

Well it goes without saying that the weather sucked here.....a huge tree fell and took out my back fence....we've had a foot of rain since yesterday..Tampa is literally UNDER water, and no hope for it letting up for at LEAST another 24 hours...as a matter of fact, we are now once again under a hurricane warning because they think Frances just might turn around and bite us in the a$$ once again :-? Just another day in Paradise :roll:

[quote name='desertlady']Buddy Loves the Innova! I am so glad ...[/quote] Yay!...success! :D So how [i]is[/i] the new addition so far? What kind of dog is he? I'm so happy you found a new furbaby to add to your family!

Thanks for the link TDG :D

np Horsefeathers....I understand completely :wink: With all this Hurricane activity. I've barely had an opportunity to blow thru here myself. Take your time , and take care! I'll check back in a cpl days once this crazy weather passes. Kat- Thank you for your input. I'll pass it on to her. :D I'm not sure what age the little guy is...I know she adopted him from rescue.

Tell me about it K :roll: .......and the debate rages on. If anyone would like to get in on it here is the link to the forum I am currently 'arguing' at. Feel free to jump in and 'educate' :wink: [url]http://www.terrificpets.com/forum/7482.asp[/url]

It may be a histiocytoma (non-cancerous skin tumor) Take her to your vet to be sure. Boxers are prone to them. more info here: [url]http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=1676&S=1&SourceID=42[/url]

I have a question for you. A woman on one of my Boxer forums has a terrier that is having severe allergies/skin issues, to the point where she is wondering if it is better to have him euthanized then to have him keep suffering. This reminded so much of some of your little Devin's skin issues...I was wondering if you have any suggestions you could give her??? Here is her original post. [quote] Tell me what a horrible person I am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I rescued my border terrier from the shelter in March, the very day that I heard a good friend of mine had died. When I got him, he was missing hair and had hotspots, and the shelter told me he had been crawling with fleas when he was picked up as a stray, and that he had flea allergies. Time went on but though he was flea-free he never stopped itching or tearing himself apart. We tried different foods but there was no change. We did steroid therapy, no change. Benedryl didn't touch it. He was in an Elizabethan collar from almost a week after I got him and has worn it pretty much constantly until now. He went to see the dermatologist, who said he had a yeast infection (that he was also allergic to) as well as a small spot of demodex. His immune system is compromised and he's allergic to cats and the nickle on his tags. That was over six weeks ago. He's on four different types of pills, a cream for the demodex spot, and special medicated shampoos twice a week. Six weeks of stressing him out with shoving pills down his throat twice a day (he hates it) and giving him constant baths (which he hates even more). I do have cats, but I was trying to get his infections taken care of so that he could go and stay with my mother, who has no cats. But nothing has changed. He itches constantly. Even with his collar on he rubs against corners and walls and my legs, and twists about on the floor trying to get relief. The medications have not helped in the slightest. If anything his yeast infection has gotten worse. I can't take his collar off even for a moment because he will tear holes in his sides and back and ears within literal seconds. The dermatologist wants to do some more testing (another $600) before we even decide what the next step is. Meanwhile, my baby is so miserable he can barely sleep, and while he remains upbeat, playing with my other dog and happy to see me and go on his walks, that constant itching is taking a toll. He gets so stressed from the baths and medications he starts retching. Am I horrid in thinking that six months of this with no improvement (in fact, with worsening) in sight that its time to stop, and to help him on his way to the Bridge? I wouldn't think anything of paying the dermatologist another $600 and another five thousand if I had to for medications or other crap if he was showing some...ANY...signs of improvement, but he's just not getting better. Even with his collar on he licks it incessantly trying to lick his feet or his legs. I feel like a really horrible person for even thinking its time to just stop and let him go on, but I can't emotionally deal with watching him suffering like this constantly with no end or relief in sight. I'm afraid that if I take him into the vet and ask them to euthanize him they'll think I'm a terrible pet owner who just doesn't want to deal with their animal anymore. I know that's not true...I mean, I'm at the vet often enough they know me by first name and I pay their car payments taking care of my babies for every little sniffle and sneeze, but I still feel like I'm a horrid horrid person, and they will think that I am too. Please, anyone...what do you think? Is it time to let him go? Am I horrid for thinking that it is?[/quote]

I posted this on another board that I visit and got FLAMED by a vet tech who said it was a ridiculous claim and [i]her[/i] office has never heard anything about there being a problem with Proheart....and it comes highly recommended by them, and yada yada yada....and then a cpl of dog owners/ Proheart users chimed in and agreed with her :o . One even said he would "[i]continue to use Proheart[/i]" for his dog. I was like, well....that may be difficult seeing as its been [i]RECALLED[/i] :roll: . lol...I'm not very popular on that board :wink:

Awww...well it sounds like they were all lucky to have found you :D My two are both rescues. I grew up with Boxers (my family had 3 growing up). So I've always had a soft spot for them. We adopted Loki from Boxer rescue two years ago (when he was a yr old). He had been abandoned by his original owners. He is my 70 lb lap dog......very quiet and laid back....but still ALL Boxer (LOVES to play with anyone who's willing). This past spring we moved to a bigger house with a huge yard and decided it was time to find Loki a playmate. We originally wanted another brindle boy, but when the rescue sent me Lyra's pic, we knew we had to take her. She was sooo skinny and skittish and sad looking. She too had been abandoned by her owner....and we found out later had been beaten quite badly at some time in her short life :evil: (she was 15 months old when we got her). She has since come a very loooong way. She is no longer skittish at ALL, but she sounds almost identical in personality to your Cheyenne...VERY vocal and lovey. She has to be where I am at all times.. and she's smart as a whip. Of the two she is also the most protective. It would be a very lonely house without them!

Well they look wonderful :D Have you had them both since they were puppies? Mine don't stomach table food well either, so all they get is the occasional piece of cheese as a treat ....raw meat scraps on occasion and cottage cheese or yogurt in their food once a week. I had a tough time finding a food that worked for BOTH of them....so I have switched 3 times in the past few months. Currently I have them on Canidae though and it seems to be agreeing with them (yippeee!). Previously I had them on Nutro Natural....then Burns. Well good luck with the Innova! So will you be switching the Boxer-kids over to that as well as the new pup?

Finally!

Rednose- what do you feed your boxers? Their coats are beautiful.

Desertlady...congrats on your new rescue baby :D Hope the Innova works out for you. It is a great food. Can't wait to see pics of the new furkid!