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Standard Poodles are great dogs. I was thinking about getting a poodle prior to getting Kavik. They are bright and loyal, love sporting activities, have been known to be feirce protectors of their loved ones and they are excellentl snugglers.

Right now in the Eastern Standard Time Zone it is 12:45 pm. Anyone got the time in GMT

That's acute dog, that's what sort of dog it is.

5 hours I think plus or minus I can't remember which. I got it set in dogo and now it shows the right time. At the bottom of my screen it does show GMT - 5 hours.

I don't suppose there is a [i]GOOD[/i] rescue group there?

Nothing that says "by-product" or "meat" in the ingredients is good. :o

:lol: Trying to make converts C&C?

Its a balmy -23 C or -9 F here right now with wind chill. Last evening it was -31 C or -24 F with wind chill. The boys were making poopsicles in 60 seconds. It is easier to pick up but it is so very cold. Kavik doesn't care but Zaphod goes out, does his stuff and is on his way back into the house almost before he is done. :)

Dogs are in some cases more at risk of frostbite or damage to pads than we may realize, road salt really exacerbates existing frostbite and/or causes damage that makes pads more susceptable (sp?) to frostbite. Booties or Paw Protector are great, at the very least limit his time out of doors until paws heal, wipe them clean when he comes in to remove salt, and apply petrolium jelly to pads until you can get paw protector or booties. My mom's mutt got mild frostbite on his right rear pad and was ever after more sensitive to the cold in that foot. Not that you could convince him to come inside :roll: .

Good for you Rott, everyone deserves time off and it is important to have time with your new guy so you can have time to get to know him and he can settle in supervised. You will post pics won't you?

The split between working and nonworking BC lines is well under way here. Generally both camps are fairly responsible about ensuring working dogs go to working environments and nonworking dogs are not purchased by people who need to rely on the dog to work livestock. I still think many people who take on non-working BCs are not prepared for the drive to do something and intensity of these dogs but that is another issue. Hobbit - Are you concerned that with the split into working and non-working BCs there will not be enough working dogs to fill the need or that the split will not be complete enough and the working traits of BCs will be compromised? As to Hazel it sounds like she was from working lines and sent to a pet home and that could be a bit of an issue. If so Hazel would definately need some serious outlet for her drive/energy.

The background's on the Dobe photos from Wispering Woods are not very encouraging either, check out the background on the photo of Phantom's Wish Upon A Star CGC nursing. The other site with the genetics info seems good, but it will take me a month to work my way through it, oh well, needed something to read anyway.

Did anyone see any pics of any of these Dobes or White Dobes on their site? I couldn't find any.

[quote]The problem is that many border collies are not small enough to bring down the jump height to what they want. The folks I am talking about are very competitive folks who want the fastest dogs which is why they are breeding these mutts.[/quote] Hmm, I was just thinking its sortof strange that something that developed as something a loving dog owner could do with their pet for fun, excercise and competition is becoming the reason to produce a dog a certain way. I may be set in my ways but to me that way of thinking is backwards. If people desperately want a certain cross they can search through things like petfinder, there is no need to create another "designer dog".

Try "up" or whatever command you want to use or just plain "sit" while leading the dog into the right position with a treat - hold it in front of nose and slowly lift upwards and moving back very slightly. Use very small treats and try rapidly going between down and sit clicking and/or treating for each succesful change.

No problem, looking at puppies is not a chore :D . Good luck to you and Jon.

OK here are some, sorry this will be long. If you go to [url]www.petfinder.com[/url] and enter info for your state etc you can see pictures too, for some of them. Some of them might be too far away for you and/or Jon but maybe not? Oliver Dog German Shepherd Dog,Labrador Retriever Mix Size: Large Age: Baby Sex: Male I.D: Notes: Oliver and Leo are brothers, both neutered and have current shots, 8 months old, 50#. Great farm dogs, good with people, currently free-running. Are ok with cats, but do sometimes chase rabbits and small animals. Command trained, happy, healthy, playful, very intelligent, great swimmers, wonderful water dogs. Oliver has a black short coat and looks somewhat lab/rott with brown rott markings. This pet is: up to date with routine shots, altered Animal Protection League Burlington, IA (319)753-0401 [email]Firstmed1@aol.com[/email] and Cody Dog Labrador Retriever Size: Large Age: Baby Sex: Male I.D: Notes: This little guy just turned six months old. Is housebroke....... (Black Lab) Loves to play with people and kids, other dogs he is ready to have a romp around the yard. Will be neutered and UTD on shots this next week. CONTACT: Peggy 319-234-1212 This pet is: already house trained Pet Resource Network Evansdale, IA . [email]schneggy@hotmail.com[/email] and Emerson Dog Labrador Retriever mix Size: Large Age: Baby Sex: Male I.D: 12693 Notes: Color: Black. Very sweet, gentle boy. He is a little shy but relaxes once he gets to know you. Recommend training to help build his confidence. Loves tennis balls. Click here for more pictures and information. This pet is: altered Iowa City/Coralville Animal Care and Adoption Center Iowa City, IA (319) 356-5295 [email]Misha-Goodman@iowa-city.org[/email] and Blackie1 Dog Labrador Retriever Size: Large Age: Baby Sex: Female I.D: Blackie1 Notes: Blackie one is one of three puppies brought in to the local pound. She is a very sweet puppy. They all are. She is looking for a new home with some one to love her. If you would like more information on her please call 319-385-8034 Henry County Animal Rescue Organization and Blackie3 Dog Labrador Retriever Size: Large Age: Baby Sex: Female I.D: Blackie3 Notes: She is a black lab puppy that was brought in to the local pound and need to find a new loving home. She is sweet and would love to have someone to play with Her and her sisters are all black. If you would like more information on her please call 319-385-8034 Henry County Animal Rescue Organization Mt. Pleasant, IA 319-385-9066 [email]coberley@iowatelecom.net[/email] and Sarah Dog Black Labrador Retriever Mix Size: Large Age: Baby Sex: Female I.D: Notes: Sarah is indeed a beautiful black baby with eyes that sparkle and a disposition that also sparkles. Her mama was a black lab and the daddy is probably the terrier down the road, but no one is quite sure! We do know that Sarah is a real sweetheart that loves to be with people. To know her is to love her. She would make a great companion animal for anyone! TLC Animal Shelter Canine Center Newell, IA We cannot return long dis [email]plarsen@rconnect.com[/email] and Dolly-sweet! Dog Golden Retriever Mix Size: Large Age: Baby Sex: Female I.D: Notes: I'm a typical Golden, beautiful, rather shy at first but warm up and quite loving. I need a home that has room for me in their home, I will get approx 50lbs, I need obedience training and lot's of love. If you can offer me that for many years to come, I'm yours! I'm approx 12 weeks old. Out of state. Contact [email]alterupet@aol.com[/email] Cedar Bend Humane Society Waterloo, IA 319-232-6887 [email]cbhumane@aol.com[/email] and Black and white! Dog Labrador Retriever Mix Size: Large Age: Baby Sex: I.D: Notes: These puppies are adorable, very unique black and white markings, super personalities. Just rolly/polly loves! Approx 10 weeks, look like they will be approx 40-60lbs, they need LIFETIME, (10-15 years) LOVING indoor homes, and be trained to be good canine citizens, super, unique looking pups. 2 females and 1 Cedar Bend Humane Society Waterloo, IA [url]http://www.petfinder.org/shelters/IA36.html[/url] I think this guy is very cute.

OK - will look, thanks.

Gigi - What general area would Jon be willing to go pick a dog up from? I agree - shelter dog will probably be fine, all of our dogs except one were from the shelter and true there is no gaurentee the dog won't be gunshy etc but all of our shelter dogs were game to at least try anything that might make us happy.

Sounds like things could work out just fine. One word of advise though - I'd switch to a different pizza company :D

Yes that is it exactly I think, a fashion thing or a matter of personal taste. Unless of course someone does have livestock their dog is protecting.

We only got a spiked collar for one of our dogs - actually my mom's dog Joe. Now I know some people may disagree but I think that every dog like my mom's Joe should where one of these huge spiked collars - it completes their image. After all what 25lb snugglewuss cockaterrpoo mutt is complete without a nasty spiked collar. :lol: We actually only put it on him for Halloween, it was very cute. Joe tolerated this with his usuall patient stoicism.

BUMP again.

I'm still feeding kibble, researching what noncanned nonbagged food will work for us. Right now the Solid Gold-Millenia is working pretty good though. I've started exposing the dogs to a variety of raw and cooked foods so the transition to whatever diet I choose will be easier.

I could be wrong but: If your dog enjoyed the company of your sisters dog, even in his own home, he probably would enjoy company. If your a two dog person I'd go with it. As for the second dog being lonely when BJ gets older . . . you could also adopt another dog to keep yourself at the 2 dog level or prepare the 2nd dog by having him spend time alone/apart from BJ as BJ gets older. This will also give your aging guy a bit of respite from a more energetic housemate.