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That's what vet said, keep an eye out for it. If it doesn't pass in 2 more days give him a call.

We free feed with all our dogs. The only time we gave controlled feeding a try is when we had Tyr in the house. Free feeding is initially more expensive, paticularly with a rescue dog or a gulper but they do tend to calm down and eat only when hungry after a while. Not for all dogs though, you can try it for 2 weeks to a month and see if its right.

:lol: No I can live without the quarter. I think Zaphod is doing just fine. He is in the process of pinning Kavik right now and does not seem to be having difficulty eliminating.

So she is breeding border collies and mixes and the ones that don't work out go to pet homes. Nope. No good. You do not breed dogs hoping you will get what you want and finding someplace for the refuse. You breed dogs with the best possible examples of the breed you are working with, knowing what you will get - the breed standard most likely. You breed knowing that every dog in your litter will definately have a home that wants precisely what the dog will be. You do not breed a litter to get a few dogs that some people want for their hobby and then try to place the other dogs in homes that could have been for shelter/rescue dogs. How many dogs does she have?

What breeds where the previouse dogs you had, how big is the crate? Corgis aren't that small, their bodies are nearly lab sized its just they have those short little legs :D . The dog should be able to sit, stand, lie down, and turn around in the crate, no more, no play space - if you are using the crate to housetrain. If its just for a safe containment area, travelling, retreat space for dog etc, having a larger crate should be no problem.

I know she was endangering others, herself and worst of all the dogs but I can't help but feel sorry for the woman. It's very hard on seniors to loose their licence, a great deal of their independence is lost as well. Still, I bet if she had pulled over, apologized and spoken nicely to the officer she would have gotten a ticket and been told to restrain the dogs when in the car.

Yes Zaphod is my puppy. He is a 12 week old lab/bc cross. He's sorta small or at least small enough that I think passing a quarter is going to be somewhat painful :o .

Zapod ate a silver coloured coin, not sure if it was a quarter, nickle or dime. (Someone was "watching" the dog for us.) So I'm thinking a nickle or dime might not be a problem but a quarter??? We have vet appointment on Thursday anyway for vaccination so I will mention it then. Any experience with this?

:lol: Yes it would be possible, also possible for some traits to be not exactly like either dog or partway inbetween. Hmmm - jack russel legs, border collie fur, jack russel brain, border collie intensity etc would be a strange dificult little dog.

You could also take the dog for a 15 min jog on cement 1x per week. Wears their nails down nicely, wouldn't go much faster than a light jog - you know how rough high impact aerobics are on our joints, imagine its the same for puppies.

Mei - I think we agree that massive education of breeders, owners, legislators and the public is a good way to start. Laduenda - I did not say - do not post, I said IF you do not want people to reply to the things you say in your post then do not post in the first place.

laduenda - If you don't want people to comment on the things you do or say (what you seem to refer to as being nosy) don't post them here. This is a forum and they way forums work is this - someone posts something, someone else responds. If you don't like it don't post.

[quote] Labradors and newfies have webbed feet[/quote] Labradors have webbed feet??? I knew Newfs had webbed feet but all the Labs or owned don't seem to have webbed feet. Must be just some crazy genetic anomaly here in Canada. Probably a rare version of the breed started in the province of Newfoundland which contains the Labrador/Labradour region. Gooeydog - I agree, my dog is part of my family. It would be no more acceptable to me if someones dog bit my dog then if it bit my brother. Either way I'd be seeing red, after I calmed down it would be the owner and the breeder I'd be wanting to go see though.

[quote]Frankly, I agree with you. The problem of irresponsible dog ownership would still remain even if breeders changed the essential make-up of the dog. I understand why people would want to breed for a less aggressive animal, but if aggression is a part of the standard (like in the Fila) then I don't think it should be tampered with. It's an unpopular opinion, but it's mine. [/quote] Mei-mei I do agree with you to an extent. IF we could ensure that EVERY or at least most owners of apbts were good owners, trained them, ensured that they were under control and otherwise knew how to be a proper handler for their dog - then some degree of dog aggression would be of little importance. But given the number of apbts in my local shelter and the number of people hanging out downtown with these dogs wearing spikes and chains, lunging at every passerby - I don't think we are capable of ensuring apbts are in homes with good apbts handlers/owners. People will continue to obtain these dogs and similar breeds for their image, for their aggression and for many other bad reasons. They will handle them improperly and they will enhance their existing aggression and some old ladys poodle will get eaten and the dog will be euthanized. The breeds reputation will never be improved. Therefore the option we need to look at to save the breed is the breeders who should be the caretakers and gaurdians of their breed. It is possible to breed down the aggression without changing much else. Without the aggression some of the bad owners would be dissuaded from ever getting the dog in the first place, maybe they'd where the spikes and chains themselves and get a gun or something but never own a dog - :lol: . As I said I don't think it is a disservice to the breed - after all if as a responsible handler you are going to completely control your dogs potential for aggression why do you care if its even aggresive or not, either way its not going to act out in an aggresive manner. It would be nice if everyone who adopted any breed understood that dogs special handling needs and provided the very best family home for that dog but as this thread proves - its not going to happen :( . Opinions vary, maybe some combination of ideas and alot of public education and the example of good owners and breeders will save the breed from death by bad handlers, breeders, and bsl.

Oooops, that was me. I thought I logged in, guess not.

[quote]Is it Ginger that settles a stomach[/quote] I always found that Ginger unsettles my stomache . . . maybe I should quit drinking it with rye. :drinking: Eric - I sympathize. Kavik got carsick too, we did the same things K suggested and he seems ok now, took a couple months. We had the Kavik car blanket for while, it is thankfully gone now.

Don't breed standards change overtime, GSDs for example? They were squarish, turned into a ramp, moving back towards squarish again?

Yup - your puppy didn't read the manual, maybe you should get a copy and line the crate with it :lol: . If she is making progress though I wouldn't worry. Zaphod was a shelter pup and he was/is harder to housetrain than Kavik who was home raised. I think its because they have little choice but to go in their crates in a shelter.

Aside from the previouse I have two problems with invisible fences. 1. It is not safe to leave a dog unnattended with the shock collar on. Even if you are there keep some good scissors handy. I have seen a dog recieve 1st to 2nd degree burns and loose control of his bowels due to an accident. (this dogs collar was the bark collar but a similar situation could in theory occur) 2. Other people do not know your dog is secure in your yard. At best they may report you to the city out of concern for your dog. They also may take it upon themselves to pick up your dog to bring it into your house if they thick it is not secure. If your dog runs barking at someone, they do not know it will stop at some invisible spot. They may become very frightened. Some cop, maybe doing a yard by yard search in a foot chase might decide rover is "charging him" and overreact.

How old are your pups? I agree with Mei-mei, if your not already making sure they can't eat or drink for a couple hours before bed try that. I would also continue to section off the crate and take them out just before bed. The only actual suggestion I could make is change your bedding to those thick soft rubber mats. I know this sounds mean but puppies are supposed to have an attraction to eliminating on soft surfaces (which explains their choice to go on the carpet instead of the tile floor when they make an oopsie :-? ) Also the mats are easier to clean. Or it could just be that your puppies didn't read that paticular manual on puppy behaviour :D .

I use a GL on Kavik when we go out to the conservation area. We have worked on heeling quite a bit and off lead in our common green space he is good. On the way back from the conservation area he is not bad maybe even pretty good. On the way to the conservation area he is horrible. We have tried these methods: 1) If he pulls toward something a correct and stand still till the leash goes slack. Result - 5 min walk turns into 45 min, my back and arm ache, Kavik is frustrated. (we don't use this method anymore) 2) Correct before leash becomes taught and turn abruptly and randomly. Result - Kavik does watch me for cues fairly closely and heel after around 20 min off this but he heels after 20 min playing with his kong in the park too. However, after 15minutes his attention wanders again. Also people think I'm mean and/or crazy for zigzagging around repeating strange noises. We still practice with this method but the little devil seems to be able to tell a practice session from a walk and heels not to bad during practice sessions but on "real walks" is far less co-operative. 3) We have tried the snap and voice correction with the flat buckle. Result - Kavik pulls, my arm and back are sore. (we don't do this one at all anymore) I admit to using the GL to save my arm and back till we can get to the park and wear him out . His general heeling has improved SOME since we started using it. And no he doesn't like it. Any other suggestions? BTW we have tried playing kong with him for 15 min before walking to the park and it helps but it is not really a solution, just another crutch and not pratical if we need to take Kavik somewhere on shorter notice.

Here are two sites that may be of limited help. [url]http://www.geocities.com/t-aarf/[/url] [url]http://www.wspa.org.au/03campaigns/pet_respect/03pet_respect_taiwan.html[/url] Talk to people you trust and see if you can find the guy a home.

Just a side question - when people refer to CKC are they refering to the Canadian Kennel Club? I don't know the differences between the Kennel Clubs but I know that the Canadian Kennel Club registeries less breeds than the AKC, the do not even register Border Collies I think.

My mom's cockerterripoo mutt had arthritis pain that would cause him so much discomfort he would shake. The vet explained the [i]possible[/i] risk from using aspirin, she said there [i]could[/i] be kidney/liver problems BECAUSE of his age. However, she also told us that continuing to allow Joe to exist in that pain was cruel and could have its own life shortening issues (dogs in a lot of pain often go off their food and water) so the choice was ours. There really was no choice - the remote chance that the aspirin might cause different health problems then if we didn't give him aspirin therby leaving him in pain. We put Joe on the aspirin and he was in less pain. Joe did not die at home, the arthritis got so bad that aspirin was not helping him so my mother opted to have Joe PTS. I don't think aspirin shortened Joe's life, I think it made it better. I think you did the best and most humane thing possible for your dog, you did not harm him.

Thanks Black GSD I always get that bit mixed up :oops: