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Cassie has a very good point. Food allergies can make a dog hyper and aggressive, even a puppy. Think about the way he behaves for a minute. Do his legs start to twitch 1/2 hour-40 minutes after eating? That's a sign to watch for, because it is definitely allergy related. If his legs start to twitch, and then he suddenly becomes hyper or aggressive, you best think about changing his food. And even tho he may have been eating this food for a long time, it takes a long time for most allergies to develop. Hope that helps and good luck! :fadein:

Oh let it grow...it's a much easier TARGET that way.... :evilbat: :evilbat: Where in the world did he/she get that Pit Bull bite number? There arent even that many DOG BITES anually, from any breed.....

I had Kyle move himself and his loud friends upstairs into the spare bedroom, whith his TV and video games and stereo. The change in Laurel is remarkable!!! She is actively coming out and checking out the downstairs njow (she has been getting progressively less scared with the Rescue Remedy) and although still scared, she now has jumped up and laid in my lap. Checked out the tables and coutnertops (uh oh, I may end up with a counter surfer on my hands...) and generally seems less scared with the lack of noise and people. Tonight Kyle came down and sat on the now empty couch and called her, and slowly she came out and went up to him and let him pet her...then he put some food in a bowl and walked back upstairs and she followed him!!! Things are looking up!!!!!! I shoulda thought of this a long time ago... :fadein: :fadein: :fadein: :fadein:

I had one too. They are a member of the Hound breed, so they need lots of exercise. They are considered the tallest dog in the world. They have short, wiry hair ranging from black to black and grey...I have never seen a brown one. Holz would probably know more. They are supposed to be even tempered. Mine wasnt, but he was abused before I fostered him. They are very intelligent, and I believe they are sight hounds, although I could be wrong.

for the really stubborn jumper who wont respond to any of the above, there is also sound aversion. Get something that makes a high pitched blaring noise, and when they jump up yell OFF and set it off. Even a wind up alarm clock can work, the kind that rings really annoyingly loud... They attach the sound to the correction, and most dogs dont like loud noises. Make sure it's not a clock you actually use to wake up with. You want them to associate that sound with that correction.

[quote]I bite. And hard! [/quote] LOL - geez, I hope I'M on your good side then... I have to agree though. I was one of the ones thinking Gunny was anti-pit, staff, Shepherd, Rottie, etc... If that's not true, please let us know.

HF they consider YOU Alpha. It's as simple as that. As long as no one threatens their Alpha, they're ok with your hubby. They would probably react the same way to a stranger who tried to attack or assault you. Freebee is the same with my son. And she used to go after my ex if he yelled at me or seemed threatening. She doesnt attack, but gets between the combatants and breaks up the fight. Laurel outright growls if anyone enters my room, an issue I'm trying to break her of. They may never like to see you play fight, so if you want to you'll have to keep them out of the room, or leash them and calm them while you're playing. The calming needs to come from you, not your husband.

when will it be televised?? I want to watch it...

the waterbottle works on some dogs, but not all. Freebee thought it was a game and would attack the water... I would suggest a short, two foot lead. When guests come to the door, tell her to SIT and stand on the lead. Have someone else let the guests in. Keep her int he sitting position and have your guests praise her for being so good..even bring treats..they have to work with you. Once she realizes that sitting will bring attention and treats, she will fall into that automatically. Basic obedience is necessary here. And you have to have a good gripin the lead. I have put it around my ankle to stop jumping...

Is there a purpose in making them look like lambs? or is it just for cuteness?

That was my question too, Snowpaws. I dont believe I've ever heard of a large quantity of "vicious" Great Danes....they're usually really laid back. However, I had an Irish Wolfhound mix that I fostered, and people would ask me if he was a Dane or part Dane...so again it comes down to that the average person doesnt really know what kind of dog threatened or bit them. Wolfhounds are not real common around here... I remember reading somewhere that if you took all the different types of purebreds in the world, bred them together, and waited, what you would end up with is a dog that looked amazingly like a German Shepherd or a wolf....They would return to "type"...their original ancestors. And I hear a lot of people who, when asked to describe a dog, while say "kinda Shepherd looking..." (although seeing the dog, I would have completely disagreed....) Makes for an interesting theory...

Is there a story attached? It could be a film prop, after all they made Cujo foam at the mouth for the rabies shots....

None of mine ever noticed either. It's easier on males... Are eye infections common in Pei's?

I personally feel this is more realistic Dog Bite Statistics: Bad Logic By Katharine Dokken The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and many local jurisdictions issue yearly dog bite statistics that affect pet owners everywhere in ways they seldom think of until its too late. What are some of those effects? How about sudden cancellation of your home owner’s insurance policy or denial of a new one, or an outright ban on the ownership of your dog? If you own your own home and one day your city decides to ban ownership of your dog, what do you do? Dog breeds the CDC considers the highest risk? Pit bulls, Rottweilers, German shepherds, Huskies, Alaskan Malamutes, Doberman pinschers, Chow Chows, Great Danes, St. Bernards and Akitas. But are these the breeds that actually are the highest risk? And "Huskies" is a class of dogs, not a breed. What kind of "Huskies" are they even talking about? The generic term of Husky refers to Siberian Huskies, Alaskan Malamutes, Samoyeds, and other Northern type breeds which may or may not even be purebred. Are they talking about Siberian Huskies? If so, then why don't they specify that? Many homeowners insurance companies and local law enforcement jurisdictions use these statistics to decide what dog breeds they will discriminate against or out right ban. While statistics on dog bites are nice, they actually tell us almost nothing about the issue, and are the basis of many pieces of flawed dog ownership restrictions or outright banning legislation. In the first place, the dog breed identifications in the reports are dubious at best. Entire categories of bites are frequently not included in the statistics, such as the so-called provoked bites, which may or may not be such. In addition many dog bites are never reported, especially if they do not require medical treatment. To use statistics alone in determining who an insurance company will sell to and who they won’t ignores the basic issues of personal responsibility and just how many of those so-called statistical bites were caused by the human involved and not the dog, besides being downright racist. If insurance companies refused to provide homeowners insurance to all black people there would be a national outcry. Yet many companies today refuse to sell insurance to someone who owns a dog, regardless of the dog’s history and temperament. Many jurisdictions force the dog bite reporter to list the dog by breed, but many of these dogs are not purebreds. They are mixed breeds, frequently of unknown parentage. Some jurisdictions will accept a listing of mixed breed but many will not. Is the dog that just bit someone a multiple-breed-Chow mix? Guess what, it will probably be listed as a Chow Chow bite. Own a Hound/Bull dog mix? Chances are good it will be listed as a Pit Bull. A mixed breed dog is just that. For the average person, they can accurately identify less than 30 dog breeds on sight, let alone in a stressful and intense situation like a dog bite. The bite will get reported as whatever breed the people involved think it most closely resembles. Even law enforcement officers, animal shelter workers, and some veterinarians cannot accurately identify many breeds. I can remember just a few months ago taking one of my dogs into the regular vet clinic we always go to. We saw one of the veterinarians on staff that we hadn't seen before. He made the comment that he hadn't realized that my dog breed was as big as it is because he had never seen one in person before. He had only seen pictures in books, yet the breed of dog I own is fairly common in both my area and nationally, and the dog in question was actually very small for the breed. For the average person anything with prick ears and blue eyes automatically becomes a "husky," yet many breeds can have blue eyes, and many more have prick ears. Any smooth coated brown dog, medium sized, and muscular becomes a "pit bull" yet upon examination many have been found to be purebred Boxers. Any tall dog becomes a Great Dane, fuzzy or hairy and it’s a Chow Chow. If it’s black and tan and heavy it’s a Rottweiler, etc. See the problem with this? The average person cannot tell the difference between an Alaskan Malamute, a Siberian Husky, and an Akita. Fatal attacks since 1975 have been attributed to over 30 different dog breeds yet all the media can talk about are Pit bulls, Rottweilers, Dobermans, or Akitas. Size alone is not an accurate indicator of which dogs are capable of killing and which dogs are not. In October of 2000, a baby was killed by a four pound family Pomeranian dog in California. In February of 2002, a Jack Russell Terrier mauled a 6 week old baby in Tennessee. For an entire category of bites, there is no reporting at all. This is for so called provoked bites. Bites that occur at veterinarian offices, dog groomers, and boarding kennels in many counties are automatically declared to be provoked bites. Those that know dog bite statistics from the inside out are those that work with animals for a living. I recently polled a number of animal shelter workers and this is what they said about dog bites. Most of the bites have been by small unfriendly Terrier type dogs and Cocker Spaniels. Occasionally they have seen a larger dog on a bite case but the vast majority of the bites were from small to medium sized dogs. The dog groomers I spoke to said most of the bites they see are from Schnauzers, Cocker Spaniels, Westies, Scotties, and Dachshunds. Next I polled a number of veterinarians. One veterinarian said to me, "Give me a so-called vicious Pit Bull over a Cocker Spaniel, Dachshund, or even a Lab any day!! These are the breeds I have the most problem with." Another vet concurred saying that in years of working at a veterinarian clinic she never once encountered a single vicious Pit bull yet had problems all the time with Cocker Spaniels and Yorkshire Terriers. Speaking of provoking, an entire category of bites that are reported and shouldn’t be are the truly provoked bites. The bites in which the person involved was clearly at fault and not the dog. The bites that occurred for instance when the person who was bitten was somewhere they should not have been in the first place. For example, recently in Maryland a 13-year-old boy was bitten after he was caught leaning over the fence into a person’s yard, teasing the Pit bull contained there. Prior to the bite incident, this boy was warned 3 times to leave the dog alone. The dog owner was having so many problems with people teasing and provoking her dogs that she contacted Animal Control for assistance. Under advisement from the authorities, she ringed her backyard fence with evenly spaced “Beware of Dog” and “No Trespassing” signs. Yet these signs and 3 verbal warnings from an adult witness were still not enough to keep this boy out of the dog owner’s yard. The dog owner has now lost her dog to the authorities and another bite statistic has been entered. Yet, was it this dog’s fault? No! This dog, Pit bull or otherwise, was simply defending itself and its territory from an intruder. Just days later an Akita bit a 16 year old girl in the face in Rhode Island and again, the dog was confined in its owners backyard and the teenager was trespassing on private property. These stories are not even anomalies, but frequent occurrences. In this day and age of zero personal responsibility, the dog owner is now always deemed to be at fault regardless of the circumstances. Hand in hand with this is the general failure of parents today to teach their children even the most basic rules of canine safety and good manners. Parents encourage their children to approach and touch strange dogs without a single thought of the consequences, or even bothering to ask permission of the dog owner involved. They allow children to put their hands through fences to grab at animals contained inside. This is the epitome of irresponsibility. Fences are there for a reason and that reason is to keep people, animals or things, in; and others out. No animal should have to put up with strangers of any size, grabbing, groping, pulling their tails and ears, and hitting or poking them, yet this goes on and people expect that the animal will be some sort of saint in fur in return. This is a completely unrealistic viewpoint. A parent would be outraged and probably screaming for the police if a stranger approached and started groping their child, yet they think nothing of doing the same thing to a strange animal. To go by statistics alone assumes that the majority of dog bites are reported and that the majority of breeds identified are correct. As a long time dog fancier, I have a serious problem with either assumption. Too bad many insurance companies are now refusing to provide home owners insurance to owners of certain breeds and many communities are banning ownership of dogs, based on statistics that are dubious at best. Katharine Dokken 10166 Conde Road Marshall, VA 20115 (540) 364-1728

that made me cry..... thanks Ickle. That was beautiful...I know all of my guys are there, waiting for me....

They put Freebee on the table that sits on the floor, then comes up mechanically. Otherwise, she wont get on it. She knows as soon as that table starts to rise she's gonna get jabbed.... :lol: Good for Hippo! Glad he passed all his med exams!! :D

you mean like YOU'RE doing now? I said I was done too, but this post requires a reply. I realize, Guest, that you have been "banned" from Adam's forum, if you're the same Guest that posted that. Let me tell you about OUR forum....from the time I first came here, I have NEVER seen anyone banned. We have had a lively set of discussions, different opinions, have been trolled and sometimes slammed...you are NOT required to agree, providing you post your disagreement in a non-abusive fashion. I realize there are some forums (apparently like Adams) where disagreement gets you launched, however, that is not the case here. EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion, and there are no right or wrong opinions. We get along very peaceably here for the most part. We respect each other and like each other, even if we dont agree.... We have one thing in common....the majority of us are against dog-fighting for any reason. And we all appreciate the harshness that has happened to dogs with a fighting history. But other than that, we have all voiced our opinions, and while some may have disagreed, no one ran roughshod over them for it. "Polite" is the key word here. So if you wish to join us, and fear you will be banned for disagreeing, it's not really an issue providing your disagreements are not abusive to the other members. It's almost Christmas. Peace on Earth. Katy

I have to admit that's more innovative than my solution.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[quote]....And I resent the fact that you think that I, or anyone else who uses pinch collars, *hurt* the dogs. You obviously don't have a clue how a pinch collar works[/quote] for your info, I NEVER SAID THAT.....I agreed that with some dogs, prong and pinch collars may be necessary to teach them to calm down some. They are not for ALL dogs, and I never once said that their usage was cruel, under the right circumstances. Try reading the posts before accusing. And I too, am done with this thread.

[quote]I find the same thing when I walk both dogs. Some people seem to think that having two dogs is decadent or something, some look horribly worried like - how can she possibly control two dogs, some get that ooooh two doggies to pat look and some laugh at Kavik squirming under Zaphod. [/quote] LOL - yep!! "Dont they fight?" "Are they both housebroken?" "aren't you afraid they'll bite someone?" "Is the black one mean?" (why does everyone assume black dogs are mean?) "Isnt that a lot of vacuuming?" (hard-wood floors) and my most annoying one....."Do you REALLY thinks it's necessary to have more than one dog?" necessary? no..I happen to like them both...oh, and I have a cat, and a pond turtle as well. Dont have to clean up after the pond turtle, that's my son's job.... Then I get "the completely disgusted look" and the "What, are you running a ZOO?" to which I always reply, completely straight faced "Oh no, I need a license for that....otherwise I'd consider opening a kennel in my yard..." then they look horrified and hurry away...My bad, I know.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

yea DP I do...people always stop and ask if I am dog-sitting or dog-walking for profit. When I say no., they're both mine then they ask what they are and why they're so different....some have said they thought most people got the same kinds of dogs in one household....(??????) Laurel gets alot of looks and attention. Hounds (except for Beagles) are very rare around here. Although I think one of the neighbors has gotten one. I can hear it baying, but havent seen it yet....and it's not the Beagle. His bay is different, higher pitched.... :)

Rowie had posted here once before that she wouldnt be around alot during the school year, her mom wont let her go online, so maybe that's why she hasnt come back. She drops in here from time to time, but not alot.

Good - glad it's ok Kat is probably right. It may have gotten dislodged in some "doggie-doings" and that made it turn black when the root died. It may just have been a little too early for it to come out, that's all...

I apologize Guest. Mutts4me was correct. I thought you were the other guest who appears to be trying to stir up controversey over this very topic. Please sign your posts with your name, or handle, so we can identify you. Or join. While the cartoon did disturb me, it does in fact point out what can happen when the owner is irresponsible and stupid. Although I did not like the "genetic" traits assigned to the Pit....I was all for the "traits" assigned to the owner. That is the cause of alot of these problems...

well, this is drastic, but it works....Use the old mousetrap trick. Put traps under the ree, under a doubled over sheet or a blanket, and when he steps there it will snap and frighten him a little. Make a perimiter around the tree with them, so he can only get so close. In most dogs (not all, however) the sound of the traps and the sudden movement will make them back away. Good luck! My first cat climbed my (real) tree in my 1st apartment.When he got to the top his weight pulled the whole thing over. I found 3 gallons of water soaked into my apartment carpet when I got home.....and silk ornaments unravelled all over the place. What fun!! so I know what you're going through....the traps worked for the cat though. He never climbed another tree.