imported_Irena

well i know littel about this two breeds and as people alredy said here it's not an easy dogs, you need alot of knowledge and experiance working with them. aside from that try to look for kennels from your club, look in the internat for breders and talk with owners you know of the breeds do reaserch on this breeds, take some years for that you don't want to make mistakes

LOL well fast hiling for the littel guy :angel:

[quote name='dogsgalore']I'm 20[/quote] we two are the only ones here that are 20 :o , we should start a club :D

RIP for the ones who didn't make it but also alot of good luck for all of those who did and for the mother who will find a good home :angel:

LOL tha's so smart :lol: well utlist now you won't be worry in the hot days :lol: :drinking:

WoofNPurr, no matter what you call it this person is't a breeder. the problems is that today every littel person who did a litter planed or not call himself a "breeder", and they aren't. a breeder is kind of profession, art, you study it for years, you planing and you developing. in english you don't have yhe same problems as in hebrew, you have names like " hendler", "breeder", owner" etc, and ech and everyone of them is somting els.... this man is an OWNER of a dog who whelped, he isn't in any case a BREEDER and by calling him that way you compering him to the really breeders. now if he will countinio to breed like that he will be called a BYB and his doing will be puppy milling and not a kennel and breeding plan.i'm saing it only to show who is this person is and not in any way to show that he's right and good. for all i care we should burn him on a stake :evilbat:

well such people canot be called " breeders", there are simple NOT. not only because they do such a things but also the definition of breeder is of a person who has one female atlist ( by FCI anyway ) and he did 3 litters or more, this somones breeds for the benifits of the breed ect, ect..... you canot call sombody who did one litter a "breeder". didn't your club has laws against breeding unter 15-18 months? or he doing it without papers anyway? well this litter is lost, the only thing we can do is try to explane him and hope that the puppys will go to good homes and won't continio this breedings... and hopfully you can nag him enough so he will neuture his dog?? as i know when you show the fact very unplasent ( pics, storys, a trip to the pound and more ) some of the people when they see the problem with there own eyes ( and you just can't ignore the eyes of the dogs in the shelter ) they understand much better and this understanding stays with them like a trouma, and if it's not enough they walking to a worse shelter, again and if you can let them see how the dogs are led to be put to sleep :x ( it'll be bad for you but after this no way they will ever miss the point again :evilbat: ) the net full with sad videos about dogs put to sleep, let them see it, let them cry a bite and then we will see if they EVER will try it again :evil:

i say noe too BTW welcom to dogo :D

awwww this face, i'm inlove :angel:

hey matan only now i saw that you to posted LOL

in Israel if you want your dog to be a country chempion you need to take 3 CAC from two different judges when your dog is over a 15 months old. if you brining a champion dog from outside you can show him in champion class and if he wins once he immidiatly take the Israelian ch title

"I"? you gave me a nickname or you didn't want to wriht all my name? :lol: anyway i think that me and my bf who's our decoy would love to help....... i chact you in massengers and mails :)

well i do agree that we disagree :lol: but i think that learning about this subject can really teach alot i know that because i'm working with this kind of dogs and thats i'm seeing it diffrently, but learning what this training is, what are the consideration and what is learned besides what you see in the clip can only help. if you love it or not is'nt at all the point here, my gaol is for you and other people that think that a puppy that was selected the trained in bite work can be dengreous, missing somthing etc, etc to see the truth. i don't seek to make from you the next KNPV trainer, i want you to simple understand and learn what it is. i see that you care about dogs, so learning what a thing is truely can only show you that it's OK or just another thing in training. especialy in bite work you will find many creeps who doing it only for money and show off, that is WRONG. if you'll be intrested talking the true proffesinolist don't be too shy to PM :D

well i think nobody would stay cool when somthing like this happens, i know that i would snap at him after couple time he ignores me :x

well aside from that they are smaller than the regualr dogs and therefore can be esealy hurt. you can reaserch about the breeds your dog is mixed with them to get a general pic about your dog. you can get a food for small breeds for your dog, there is also a food for smaller breed puppies.... you can leave her fur to grow or you can keep it shortly groomed, just keep it not to short.. generaly Shih Tzus are geart dogs ( i don't know to much the Lhasa Apso ) but a reaserch about them both can give you a better pic about what to excpect from your puppy, the good and the bad saids. by the way what about some pics? :D

awwwwwwww such a cute face, good luck with the new boy :angel: :bday:

[quote name='Rainbow'][quote name='Michele']because the owner is an idiot......[/quote] Ditto...[/quote] LOL shoet and to the point :lol:

wow the thigs that going on while i don't have the time to read :o well i hope this bitch that still calles herself dog owner will somday suffer as much as her dog had......... anyway i'm happy she maked home, no thatnks to her owner :x

you better put some pics when they puppies will comes and every week after :D now this breed is intresting, i know they can work protection in schh and others, do yours work?

ohhh they cute :angel: do you know what breed/mix they are?

[quote name='puppywishes']Hello: We are very sorry that you have become so upset as the result of the video shown on puppywishes. We understand that guard training is a very valid form of dog training. However, teaching a PUPPY to bite and guard is like teaching a child to be a police officer. We feel that all PUPPIES should experience a healthy puppyhood before they are subjected to the kind of violent training that is shown in the video. (Note: when I say 'violent', I mean that the puppy is being trained to act in a violent manner.) Also, keep in mind that the spirt of puppywishes is not about teaching dogs to bite people, so our views will not be the same as yours. Also - in no way do we mean to suggest that their is anything abusive taking place in the video that is shown. We do not know the trainer who is working with the puppy and we would hate to tarnish his good reputation. This said, we do not feel that a young puppy should be trained to bite. From the Puppywishes team. [url]www.puppywishes.com[/url][/quote] it toke me time to return to here but now i can answer you have a grave mistake about protection training or any other bite traning. i don't know from who you toke this info but it completly wrong. i gave you links to a complet info what is it a bite training but i also will explane you in what you were wrong: a puppy that starts his bite training is not in any way lack of a good and healthy puppyhod, by compating dogs to humans people do many bad mistakes. puppy that starts his bite training or any other training isn't lock up in some dark room and tought to be mean and vilont, he isn't get any other different tritments that any other dog. all there training starts from toys by pray drive ( i don't think that i need to explane you drives if you are a trainenr but let me know if i do ) this puppies are learning that by sitiing when commended they get the toys and the hendler plays with them and so on with all there training. when they start bite training they only plaing tag of war with a loved toy, all there start training untill they 1.5-3 years old going mainly with pray drive ( do it and you'll get your toy ) many dogs countinio working by that way all there lifes. i just can't see where you understand it to be cruel? when by plaing with the puppy i lack him his puppyhod?

[quote name='GreyhoundMama']I wish I had the statistics in front of me. It's my understanding that pit bulls are not nearly as frequent a biter as many other breeds. I think chihuahuas are #1, but of course they can't do much damage with their tiny mouths. But if I remember correctly, it was something like a german shepard with the most dangerous rating. No one's suggesting we do away with them because they're popular. Rin Tin Tin, and all the war stories, and police dogs, and so on, make GSDs seen as heros. But they can be very dangerous if trained badly, just like many large dogs. I'm not in favor of any breed-specific legislation or removal. That just blindly attempts to address a symptom, not the problem. The problem is idiots who don't properly raise, train, and restrain their dogs. And people who engage in macho fighting "sports" with animals. I know an Italian greyhound who was used as live bait to "train" fighting dogs. The lucky IG survived and ended up in rescue. People who do that are sick, and they create monsters out of man's best friend.[/quote] well said, and i will have the time i will have more to add :wink:

[quote name='FearedDogFan'][quote name='pyrless']Someone said Baxter looked like a ^%&^@^ Labradoodle...[/quote] That's unforgiveable! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :roll:[/quote] but also really funny :lol: :drinking:

well i'm 20

well i had story like that too i working with two amazing GSD shwoing line both of them. well the female was imported from holan years ago shes intr ch, germany ch and hollan ch, she also has IPO1 ans many other nice scores id shwos. well one time whill we were walking one man come to as and started to get excited about Rivana this femaily, told me how beatifull she and blah blah blah and then after some thought he asked " but she has weired ears is she a mutt " and i'm all like that :o and :eek2: there other time my friend keept a GSD male puppy, the most amazing dog ever, this small guy toke the best puppy in his first show when he was only 3 months old :D one of the friends of this man sew this puppy one day and said " what a beatifull dog, shame he's not purebred " :o this unpure boy was sold to Argentina ( sp ) when he was 6 months old for 50000$ as future stud :lol: