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Just one of those strange things that you do, then it strikes you as odd.... I was sitting here just now eating pretzels, dropped one onto Goo's back (she's laying in the seat of the chair, me squatting on the arm, you can tell who rules the roost here :roll: ), picked it up, shook it off, and ate it :o without even a thought. Normally I'm freakishly picky about my food, different foods can't touch each other, out of place things (little specks of enamel from pots, etc) have to be plucked out, along with the food that surrounded it, anything foreign in my drink sends me over the edge.... yet I have no qualms about -literally- eating off the back of the dog, who, while she isn't coated in crud, certainly isn't what I would consider "clean". Anyway, sorry for the late night ramble [size=1](now you all probably think I'm insane)[/size], just wondering if anyone else has ever caught themselves doing something out of the norm because of the dog :lol:

The only long leads I've seen at petco/petsmart are the cotton web leads, but maybe different ones will carry poly long leads too. If not, most hardware stores or any boating store should carry poly rope in varying widths, and you can get however much you need and just tie on a snap. The poly rope will float, and it's usually in bright colors, so you wouldn't have to worry about tangling her in it.

I think I see Dachshund feet! :lol: And I note from your sig. that you have one less dog than cat.... perhaps it's time to even things out a bit :wink:

Read that page (and am working on the rest of the site), that stuff is confusing :-? , but I think I may have gotten it. Basically it's a trial and error thing to see if your dog can process the inactive oils, right? Is there a benefit to feeding different types of omegas if your dog can process them, or is omega 3 the most beneficial? And one more question I forgot last night.... I'm thinking about putting Goo (mayeb Annie as well) back on MSM, is there anywhere I can find a guideline as to what normal dose would be for dogs of varying sizes? And do you know if anything should be fed in conjunction(sp?) with it to help them process it?

But they were also implying that her dog was still a puppy, and probably also believed he was an APBT, when he's actually an adult staffy. I think maybe the point was that it was ironic that these people were handing out training advice when they don't can't even tell how old a dog is or (in this case not all that surprising) what breed.

[quote]Particularly if the owner of the pit bull had prior knowledge that the dog was dangerous to other dogs, a judge may well find that s/he had a duty to keep the dog exceptionally well confined and/or muzzled to prevent the kind of tragedy you suffered from happening (it is, after all, foreseeable that a dog will encounter other dogs) and that his failure to do so was negligence.[/quote] It should not be "forseeable" that a dog should make it into the yard of a dog aggressive dog (if that was in fact the case), at least not if the loose dog's owner was acting responsibly for their dog. By your argument, a cat owner should be able to sue when their roaming cat wanders into someone's yard and is killed by that person's dogs, because after all, it was forseeable to the dog owner that a loose, unfamiliar cat could one day wander into their yard and their dogs (as many dogs would) would pose a threat to that cat. Of course, I don't see people rushing to turn their yards into Fort Knox in order to protect stray cats from the threat that may be their dog, so why would it be any different for stray dogs?

So, I went to switch Goo to the Duck and Potato by natural balance last week, they were out of the dry, so I just got a bag of the regular formula, and 2 cases of the canned (1 lamb, 1 duck&potato, they only had one case of the lamb). She was on Nutro canned food before (1/2 can a night), but after a couple ear infections, I wanted to try all NB and see if it cleared it up (she was also on meds for those). Only a week so far, but looking good. I also talked to the guy at the training place they go to, and he said they order in some brands of food as well, the Chicken Soup food, and will be getting Canidae in a few weeks (maybe one other brand too I think, but don't remember), so I think after we're done with this (should last 2 or 3 months), I'll be switching her over to one of them. Any ideas on which might be better for an allergy prone, sensitive stomach older (but still pretty active and not at all fat on "regular" dog food) girl? I also got a bottle of the wellness vitamin/enzyme supplement, WellTabs. She gets two pills a day (20-70 lbs), so that equals (lines between are just to keep the things from bunching up): 1800iu- Vit A_____________________150iu-Vit D3 supplement 15iu- Vit E supplement______________Menadion (vit k1)- .006mg Absorbic acid (vit C)- 37.50mg_______Thiamine (vit B1)- 15mg Riboflavin (b2)- 7.5mg______________d-pantothenic acid- 15mg niacinamide- 15mg________________pyridoxine (vit b6)- 7.5mg folic acid- .006mg_________________biotin- .006mg vit B12 supplement- .006mg________choline- 15mg calcium- 150mg__________________phosphorus- 75mg potassium- .750mg_______________magnesium- 75mg iron- 9mg_______________________copper- .009mg chromium- .01mg_________________cobalt- .12mg linoleic acid- 7.5mg_______________para-amino-benzoic acid- 7.5mg lecithin-15mg____________________inositol-7.5mg betaine HCl- 15mg_______________Pepsin- 13.5 USP units Bromelain- 2.7 GD units___________Proteases- 80 HUT units Lipases- 7.5 USP units Amino Acid levels (for her dose): Lysine- 84mg_________________Methionine- 22mg Leucine- 92mg________________Isoleucine- 52mg Valine- 66mg_________________Tryptophan- 16mg Threonine- 50mg______________Phenylalanine- 50mg Arginine- 64mg_______________Histidine- 28mg Tyrosine- 38mg_______________Cysteine- 14mg Serine- 48mg________________Glutamic Acid- 148mg Alanine- 66mg_______________Aspartic Acid- 106mg Glycine- 64mg_______________Proline- 44mg Goo weighs 55 or so lbs, so do those amounts sound about right, or should I be adding extra of anything? I've also been doing the Salmon oil/Flaxseed Oil and Vit E supps, it's ok to give them with the other supplement, right (no fish or flax oil listed anywhere in the ingredients)? Right now she gets 2000mg salmon oil & 200iu Vit E one night, 1000mg salmon oil, 1000mg flaxseed oil & 200iu vit E the other, alternating. I'm doing it this way right now to get the flaxseed oil used up, but after it's gone, would it be better to do all salmon/fish oil, or to continue alternating a bit? Her coat is super soft and shiny, even after only a couple weeks of the higher levels of oil (TDG suggested increasing it because of her allergies).

[quote]A demented Pilgrim? [/quote] :lol: :lol: :lol: Poor Kato :lol: I hope that didn't cause him any permanent trauma, sure does look painful :o [quote]I have pictures somewhere but no scanner to post them.[/quote] Lay them out somewhere and take a picture of them (you have a digital cam, right?), better if you can do it in natural light though, flash will make it funny looking. [quote]Did you do that flower with the chalk? That looks great!![/quote] Yep. I was horribly bored yesterday, and remembered I had some chalk somewhere in my closet, so went on a search and painted her up. I was originally just going to make sure it wrote on her, but it was so much fun I lost control :lol: She kept turning to look at me like "WTF are you DOING to me!?!? What is that stuff???", and tried to eat the chalk on more than one occasion... definitely not cooperative :roll:

They say they accept your pity pL, apparently they feel it's not enough though, what with the hard life they lead (as they relay this from their respective spots on the couch :roll: ). And Hale wants to know how I could possibly forget this torturous episode, only yesterday. It was an attempt to "test run" the idea of coloring her for a demo she's doing this upcoming weekend... see photo for more explanation: [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/June/dacoloredflower.jpg[/img] :lol:

Oh.... I have humiliated, abused dogs! Though by now they just suck it up and put on their best "not really happening to me..." face :lol: First up, a star spangled bully [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/dastarsg.jpg[/img] Then we have Goo-dolph the reindeer, last x-mas [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/christmas/ldeer.jpg[/img] Of course, what good is one reindeer, everyone knows you need at least a few to get the job done (and always nice to have a dwarvish reindeer on hand as well!) [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/christmas/dogsdeer.jpg[/img] During the off hours, the two standard deers also engage in x-mas partying... [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/christmas/ldabands.jpg[/img] Eek! Abominable snowdog! [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/january/anniesnownose.jpg[/img] "Phone.... Home..." [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/dec31/ltowel.jpg[/img] Winter wears [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/january/ldacoatssocks.jpg[/img] "Here's lookin' at you, pup" [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/january/lpokerface.jpg[/img] This one kinda speaks for itself [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/march/ldalickoveranniedeckpat.jpg[/img] The pain that is being luggage [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/May/linduffleface.jpg[/img]

Found this on another board: http://groups.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetMBPhoto&ImageID=nFAAAAP8F4T7CavCZT*Z!ZSIDsE57dse7nVb*32ZUKnv7sBH5wbIECQ

A teeny bit of Karo syrup can also be given between meals to keep tiny puppies' blood sugar up. Not sure if that's already been suggested, but worth a try if not.

Opps, forgot the little boy who came up (after petting Hale 3 consecutive days in a row at my nephews school) and after studying her for a minute, informed me that his mother said he couldn't pet her anymore because she was a "pupil" :lol:

[quote]*I* always get "hey, who's walking who"[/quote] I used to get this when I walked a huge lab x mastiff, but surprisingly enough, never with the bullies. My favorite with Haley (3 legged APBT) is when I walk her up to the school, and someone will stop to pet her and ask, "can she walk?"... now, I can see a little kid not knowing, but you would think most adults would realize that I am not going to be toting around a dog that weighs half what I do for the half mile walk, and even if they didn't, most of the people who say this stand there and watch her as we walk up to/past them before making the comment :roll: . Of course, Hale plays it up by stopping whenever someone starts to look at her or comments on her, looking at me, and [i]slllloooowwwly[/i] laying down onto the ground, like "pity me.... I have no leg... and I am [i]SOOOOoooo[/i] tired... poor, poor me", at which point most people feel obliged to make over the poor, underpriveledged doggy. Then when I go to get her under way again, she plays the bag-o-cement game, and I get dirty looks for hauling her up and making her walk away (if they only saw her celebrating by trying to tug the leash as soon as she can't see them anymore... poor exhausted doggy my butt :roll: ). I have recently been toying with the idea though of getting a kiddie wagon to pull her in when she does get tired, as there are some nice places around here that us people and the other dogs can walk to, but that are too far for Hale, and I do feel bad at times for her missing out. I walk Goo at night usually (less dogs running loose), so we don't usually run into anyone who comments on her, though if we do, they nearly always call her a "he".... even the dummies who ask about breeding/puppies call her a "he". You'd think that if they know that much, they'd note the complete lack of boy parts :oops: With Annie (dachshund) it's always, "he's so skinny, I think you need to feed him a bit more", or "I don't think little dogs are supposed to get that much exercise". A. Annie is a she, though that one can be let slide, as she is a bit low slung to be checking :lol: , and B. Just because most dachsies around here are on the pudgy side, doesn't mean that I'm doing something wrong for keeping my dog active and at a healthy weight. Casey and Joey (cocker and chi) are apparently more "normal" when walked in public, they've never really gotten any strange comments, though if we don't have Casey shaved down soon (the groomer who does her has been sick), people will be wondering which end to pet before long :o

[quote name='Anonymous'] Did you also know that a dog aggressive dog is more apt to be child aggressive??[/quote] Of course. Note the sheer terror in these childrens' eyes as they struggle to keep this dog (and child, I'm sure) aggressive dog from mauling them [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/May/kidsdalayoncouch.jpg[/img]

[quote]Either way I still don't see the reason as to WHY people do it[/quote] Responsible breeders are breeding to preserve their breed, and continue to keep it true to itself as best as they can. People who buy from responsible breeders are often doing so because they have a particular thing (or things) they want or need in a dog, and cannot find that in a shelter dog or one from a rescue. These people would not be going and adopting a rescue dog anyway (because a rescue dog does not fit their needs), so there is no "taking a home away from a rescue dog" argument in these cases. That is their choice, just as it is someone elses choice to go to the shelter and pick out an equally wonderful pet that fits their needs.

Dachshunds come in brindle too, here's a pic of one: [img]http://www.drwp.net/images/colorado_lilly.jpg[/img] The dog above is named Lilly, and is up for adoption through Coast to Coast Dachshund Rescue: [url]http://www.c2cdr.org/[/url]

Here's one of my favorite primmy quotes, this was in response to my bringing up (on another board) a Dachshund tearing through a playpen and mauling a child nearly to death: [quote]It is almost certain that the dachshund didn't recognize the baby as human, and decided he was something like a big old badger, lying there.[/quote] :o

It's supposedly a stress thing, dogs get excited (a "happy" form of stress), and let it out in whatever way they can, many dogs chew or mouth to let out stress. With that, it would follow that they might think to grab a toy to let loose on when they feel themselves getting excited, especially if they've been taught that certain other things they might grab (hands, clothes, people things) aren't acceptable outlets.

Brindle is a layering of stripes (swirls, etc) of one color over a base coat of another color. White is usually only in markings, same as in solid colored dogs, not part of the brindle pattern itself. There are red brindles, blue brindles, black brindles, and a couple others I think, so it's not always a mizture of brown and black.

Goo: Annoying- Nothing too bad, butt licking, diving in front of me when she knows I'm in a hurry, normal dog stuff :roll: Funny- When someone comes in, Annie always insists on standing behind her as she wags her tail, which of course results in Goo whapping her in the face, then Goo turns and looks at her like "duh!" :lol: She also taught herself to open the gate to my room if both clips aren't latched... breaking the gate in the process :-? Annie: Annoying- BARK BARK BARK.... WHINE.... everytime she thinks I'm gettign ready to go somewhere. Funny- she chases fish in the water, she'll trot out onto the pier, and if she sees one, follows it with her eyes until it it disappears or comes close enough for her to dive in after it :lol: Haley: Annoying- Grabs my pantsleg every morning when I get up and hoists it up around my knee in her excitement. Breaks into my room and raids my things. Funny- she wakes me up in the mornings if I don't get up to let her out for her food and shot. I'll be half asleep and feel her pacing back and forth over me in the bed, or she'll start making dying animal noises as she breathes in my face and stares at me until I can't ignore her anymore and have to get up :lol: Casey: Annoying- raids trash. Funny- Arooooos when she gets excited Joey- Takes trash dug out by Casey and hordes it in the crate :roll: And he licks obsessively too. Funny- Dances around on his hind legs when he gets excited, and rolls over for root bellyrubs :D

[quote]Sorry, but you can't convince me that a dog "who did cry quite a bit" when first left alone thinks that his/her life is greatly improved by the situation, much less the one who would "howl like a hound" and "nothing and no one could console him." [/quote] One of our dogs has (in the past 6 months) taken to screaming like a banshee when I leave the house, and family members have told me of their attempts to shut her up (everything from petting and playing with, to distracting, to trying to correct her), to no avail. Does this mean she is absolutely MISERABLE when I leave, and that I should have no life outside of carting her around, and playing ball with her (which she would gladly do all day, apparently she thinks the hours of exercise and training she gets per day aren't enough). This same dog screams and barks when crated to go to training (and while she's crated at training waiting for her turn to be worked, unless someone she knows is within view), yet is quiet when crated at home (she rarely is though). Since she's obviously unhappy being crated during that time, should we should just skip the whole thing since it makes her so miserable to be crated for 20 minutes waiting for her turn? Many people describe their dogs as whining, barking, or all out screaming when shut in crates while they go to work or leave the house for some other reason? Some even complain about the same behaviors when they leave their dogs home to roam the house. Does this mean that they to are subjecting their dogs to miserable, sub quality lives as well? [quote]What a wondeful pic![/quote] Thanks :) Don't be fooled though, I often wonder if those two were sent here by some higher power to torture me :lol:

In short haired dogs, brindle most often resembles tiger stripes (some BYB pit bull breeders, in all their wisdom, refer to them as "tiger pits" :roll: ), in longer haired dogs, it may more resemble mottling, as the markings overlap each other. Brindle is a pattern, not a color in dogs, so you can have many different colors of brindles. Odnarb who posts here knows a lot about this type of thing, hopefully she'll see it and can help explain it. Here are some pics (labeled so you can tell the brindled dogs) also: [url]http://apbtconformation.com/apbt_colors.htm[/url]

[quote]That would be a big and quite heartbreaking problem for most dog owners because it is a huge hassle but much more so because it means that the dogs (the ultimate pack animals) must be isolated and ignored far more of the time. [/quote] Why does it mean that? What's to say that in multi dog homes where dogs need to be kept seperate, the dogs don't actually end up getting more quality attention as opposed to a multi dog homes where people treat the dogs as one unit for the most part, with a bit of one-on-one time for each. I've seen quite a few people that feel that because their dogs have each other to keep company with, they don't need as much human interaction. Granted, you could have people who would isolate their dogs and not give adequate attention, but that occurs even in "normal" multi-dog homes, even on homes where there's only one dog. [quote]but there is definately something different in the pit bull brain that causes them to tend to be dog aggressive, sometimes, sadly, to the point where it has a pretty serious impact on their quality of life. (Particularly in multiple dog households). [/quote] Of course. Just look at these poor beasts, and the negative impact their dog aggression (not to mention living in a multi-dog household where several have to be kept seperate from each other :o ) has had on their quality of life... [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/january/lsleep.jpg[/img] [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/February/lsitonrockbeachpant.jpg[/img] [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/February/anndarolled.jpg[/img] [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/march/annierunballwetfield8.jpg[/img] [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/march/lleansleepccahir.jpg[/img] [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/january/3dogsbedtime.jpg[/img] [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/march/ajcrback.jpg[/img] [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/march/lrunsniffswamp.jpg[/img] [img]http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gooeydog/march/darunfaceflyswamp.jpg[/img] Our household: 2 APBTs (both dog aggressive), 1 Dachshund (dog aggressive), 1 Chi, 1 Cocker. The older APBT (brindle) is fine with the smaller dogs, tolerates the younger APBT, aggressive towards strange dogs; Younger APBT (white) ok with older APBT, can be walked with Dachs or lay around together, but not be free to mingle, not allowed around other two dogs at all, ok with some other dogs; Dachs is fine with older APBT and usually with Chi and Cocker, picks fights with younger APBT, aggressive to most other dogs; Cocker is fine with most dogs, hates the younger APBT; Chi is ok with most other dogs. The APBTs are seperated anytime anyone isn't there to directly supervise, Dachs is usually in rotation with the other two (if not out with me), but is seperated from everyone as well if we all leave the house. Chi and cocker are usually left out together.

[quote] although i feel her post was good, that particular statement was uncalled for.[/quote] Agree on both counts. The dog is a liability, simply because it has shown that it will be aggressive towards people under the right circumstances (and who knows what they are, is she doing this because she was teased, or because he's invading her house, or because she just plain decided she didn't like him? No one knows, we can only speculate, so you don't really know what's triggering her to react that way), and she WILL require an attentive eye for the rest of her life to be sure that she doesn't fall into a situation where she could react that way and actually hurt someone. It's up to you (PBette) to determine exactly how much of a risk she poses, and decide as well how much of a risk you will tolerate in a dog. If she were to bite the super (or anyone else), you could be held responsible for not taking precautions necessary to keep your dog from being put into a situation where she'd already shown aggression, so be aware of that. No one can really tell you why she is acting the way she does without seeing her actions in person (though in some situations, people can make pretty good guesses based on descriptions of the dog's actions/behavior), so for something this serious, it is important that you try and get in touch with a professional trainer or behaviorist to evaluate her and see if they can't figure out why she's acting this way with that person, as well as give you tips on how to manage her. At the very least, you need to really get on the obedience work and get her to where she'll behave even when she doesn't agree with the situation. You may be able to accomplish this through positive only means (desensitizing her to the people she's uncomfortable around, or redirecting her to more suitable activities), or you may have to use some corrections to get the point across to her that it is not ok to blow you off when she thinks she knows better or there's something she'd prefer to do. There are trainers who will work with either or both methods, so surely you can find someone to help you in this. In regards to your chi's aggression (running the risk of offending here again, but that is not my purpose)... [quote]its not like I can tell him to sit and he'll listen when he's busy freaking out on somebody[/quote] It sounds like he knows you will not make him listen when he's busy freaking out, and takes full advantage of it. This has probably been reinforced by hundreds of incidences of him carrying on, you telling him to do something, and him ignoring, with little consequence. That's like lettign a two year old get away with having whatever they want everytime they throw a fit, then expecting them to suddenly shape up when you decide you've had enough and get serious in your attempts to teach them some manners. [quote]He is currently 7 years old.[/quote] Means not a thing. Our dog aggressive Dachshund is 6 yrs old, and I didn't even bother actually addressing the dog aggression until she was around 5 (we didn't have her until she was 1.5 yrs old, she's obedient enough that you wouldn't know she was dog aggressive in most situations). The only thing it does mean is that he's had plenty of time for his bad habits to be reinforced, so it may be harder to convince him to do otherwise. You say he is trained... use that to your advantage. When you see a situation where he may react, either avoid it if you don't think he can handle it (this will keep him from having his aggressive reaction reinforced again), or give him a command (heel, sit, down, whatever he does well, and something he can do for long enough to allow the distraction to pass), and enforce it. [quote]At this point, what I"m doing is simply trying my best not to provoke him to get angry in any way, and keeping him as calm as I can by either telling him NO and ignoring him when he starts to freak out at me[/quote] Is he aggressive towards you, too? [quote]when he starts to freak out at people, I do the same and pick him up[/quote] More reinforcement. In his mind... he carries on, you talk to him and then pick him up- which he enjoys. [quote]Small dogs are sometimes harder to work with than bigger ones.. trust me[/quote] This is true. But at the same time, a lot of the problem often lies in people thinking that small dogs are a dramatic difference to train compared to big dogs. They're not. They all have the same basic drives and needs, just different sizes :lol: