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    Monografica 2004

    @all Hello: I have been carrying this information for about 2 years, and confirmend ALL of it in Mallorca with Juan Jose (Gor Blau) and Manuel Calviño. After the recent events and attacks on the Spanish dogs pedigrees and even on CHIMO's lineage which is Shocking! I spoke to the Club and we have decide to set things straight once and for all. The Ca de Bous have been refered to in Mallorca as perros de Presa. Years and years this dogs have existed for one thing, Work. No looks, no papers, no pedigrees or nothing has been important, just that the dogs work, and exist. In 1964 the FCI sent a representative to a Show in Mallorca to look for Ca de Bou and found none in the show. But did they ask anybody or speak the language, or looked around? (NO) They knew though that the dogs existed around, and that is why they accepted it into the FCI. In the late 1970s, less and less dogs were to be seen. An old gentleman by the name of Riussec told some people that he had some Presa dogs, also known as Ca de Bou. Some gentleman went to see and saw Tito and Toby, 2 exceptional specimens of the breed, and they were working dogs, pure and simple, their instinct was TOUGH, to BITE. Ca de Bous (perros de Presa) want to bite, since puppy hood, you have to turn it into play. A serach went on to find specimens to work with and most realized that Ca de Bous as such were not seen anymore. A VERY special female was found in Nit. The purest and exceptional Ca de Bou with very good blood in her. Toby was then crossed with Nit and produced Chima and Anastasia. All Ca de Bous in Spain decend from these dogs and Ca de Bestiars that were chosen for their Ca de Bou caracteristics. It is a Known Fact that EVEN TODAY there are Ca de Bestiars that can pass an original register as a Ca de Bou because they still carry very strongly the Ca de Bou gene. At the beginning though, before that, the breed was therefore very close in genetic diversity, only coming from Tito, Toby, Anastasia and Chima. It was decided that they needed to refresh and they did 3 experiments, Ca de Bou/Presa canario, Ca de Bou/ E Bullgodg and Ca de Bou with Ca de Bestiar with Ca de Bou characteristics. Of the 3, only the Ca de Bestiar was deemed good for use, and from there some lines were born. The Presa Canario did no good and were therefore NOT REGISTERED, as was the Bullgogg, the WORST cross of ALL. At the same time there were much demand in the breed and the President of the Canina in Mallorca, Sr.Ruiz was getting very nice commisions $$$ of that. Every now and then he visited the kennel with the crosses looking for pups that would pass as Ca de Bou, wether they were pure or not DID NOT MATTER, the gentleman payed well fro dogs that were good for nothing and were not even going to be used. But how do they have pedigrees??? Well, any President of a Canina can obtain false papers as he has many pedigrees of REAL Ca de Bous in Mallorca at hand. I even spoke with Don Juan Jose Calderon, a Excellent Person and Genlteman that is an Expert about our breed. We talked about it and the worst mystake he ever did was cross with bulldogg. I consider him a man that could still do much for the breed, I hope to get him back into since he got disilusioned after all the fault fell on him about sending mixes out of Spain. Still, he knows more about the breed than many. In Spain, ABSOLUTELY NONE of these crosses were used. They were given away and sold. That is the majority of the dogs you have. Embat, is half bulldogg, YES IT IS TRUE! And any person can see it in his offsprings. I know which are good and which are bad, who are the parents and what was the cross, and they Do have some Ca de Bou in them but that is it, they are a MIX. Wether you accept it or not, this is the truth. Eric knows, he was one of the first to learn this, and he redirected his breeding. Not all Ca de Bous exported were bad, Duc, brother of Chimo was a Great dog. Alba was an excellent Ca de Bou. Arid, IS a son of Conan (Billy). But most are not Ca de Bou, the best ones sold went to Russia, but some bad ones too. The breeders are NOT at fault. They were just experimenting trying to help their breed with some refreshing and they were offered money for dogs and pups that were good for nothing, they needed the money too. They are human. But that is why there is NO bulldogg in Ca de Bous from Spain. They are though, the Spanish Bulldogge, Mallorcan Bulldog, Perro the Presa Mallorquín. Now, I want you to sit down and reflect on this: -The Ca de Bou is notorious as a Gladiator that fought Bulls, leopards and other dogs. They were still fought untill 1993. Look at your dogs, their breathing, their Strenth, their Phicical Ability...Do you really think they are capable of grabbing a Bull??? fighting against a pitbull??? (only as an example) Guarding and defending you against a Man??? Honestly look at them and ask yourself. I have pictutures of Old dogs of 100 yaers ago, Ca de Bous, pure, crosses of Ca de Bou Ca de Bestiars and so on, and will someday post them, but there is a book been written and I have to wait until it comes out. The picture of Tito and Ikar side by side is a JOKE, they honestly give me sadness and laughter, both. I have Tito on video, I have profiles of his head that NO ONE have seen and I will give you a comparison, a better one I mean soon, Tito was NOT short in muzzle, not too short but moderate, but not long either. The first Ca de Bou considered perfect was not even Tito. The answer to that I will show you when I recieve the article about it and translate it. You attack Tim Taylor, well he is one of the few who knows about the breed. The people who went to Mallorca, they learned more than any person can, it is sad only a few were open enough to go and learn. And the PROOF was all there in the table in the seminar, for ANY question. Please understand I DO NOT SINCERELY want to attack anybody nor made anybody feel bad. I hate writing this letter. But it is THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH. And The Club also felt it was time. My advise is maybe pick a new name for the breed that has flourished out of those crosses. Maybe make a companion dog or something along those lines of it. But a Ca de Bou, Perro de Presa, Working Dog they are NOT! I have montioned NOTHING that its not true. And believe me I am holding back. Like I mention some dogs that left were not bad and were pure. Should you have any questions shoot. With no Ill intention and just to set things straight. Otto Brito
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  3. If you watch the site you see different pedigrees as you put here. For example, TRUY´S parents are NOT on the site,
  4. This is NOT on this site :evil: You made this paper FALSE :evilbat:
  5. Watch good and see the difference !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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