Guest Anonymous Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 oh yay!!!! i'm with you Court.. kangaroo's pics PLEASE!!! Quote
Canis erectus Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 Regarding the snake bite issue, I'd like like to add in that most dogs will leave well enough alone when they encounter any snake. There's a proven theory that basically states how large and otherwise competant predators, both wild and domestic, will steer clear or be generally apprehensive of even the smallest reptiles (particularly snakes). Almost all snake color and pattern variations follow a few basic guidlines, which means that almost every non-venomous snake species has a basic color configuration that resembles that of a venomous species. The average carnivore can't differentiate between species (most humans can't either) so they are instictivley trained to treat snakes with snakes caution. Most of us have probably seen a great huge dog dacing circles around and barking at a 5 inch harmless species of snake before. And said same dog wouldn't think twice to charge after a deer or a fox or raccoon (all far more dangerous to dogs). If you think about it, dogs getting envenomed would be far more common if they chased and dug after snakes the way they do squirrils and gophers. I'm not saying that venous snakes aren't a legitemate concern for our dogs, but most of our dogs are naturally smart enough not to mess with snakes whether we know it or not. Quote
Malamum Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 The snake that seems to cause the most deaths in dogs is the brown snake. This is an extremely venomous and apparently a highly aggressive snake that will go after small animals. I have heard quite a few stories about this type of snakes getting into kennels and going after puppies. The puppies don’t stand a chance and the mother generally gets bitten whilst trying to protect her young. On that forum that I referred Felecia to, each summer up to 5 people post saying either they have or they know someone who has lost a dog to a brown snake. The red belly black snakes are also a worry. This past summer a lady in my parents suburb had her two Jack Russell Terriers at the vet for 2 weeks in intensive care after they were both bitten by the same red belly black snake – they only just survived. The thing is that these are highly aggressive snakes, so while the dogs may dance around rather than dive straight in, the snakes will not just lie there – they will strike out and they are bloody fast. I’ve actually been told that if you see your dog harassing a snake, leave it be. If you try to call your dog away the split second that it diverts it’s attention to look at you is enough for the snake to get a bite in. Quote
Malamum Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 Have a read of this: Pretty scary :o http://forums.dogzonline.com.au/index.php?showtopic=5882&hl= Quote
Canis erectus Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 That's pretty sad. Snakes of the Elapid family are deceptively fast and rather agressive. They also tend to be quite toxic and I believe that a ggod protion of your venomous snakes are Elapids. The snake was probably looking for shelter and the mom dog felt the need to defend her pups, the snake still feeling itself in danger probably lashed out out at anything that moved and killed most of the puppies. A low brick or concrete wall outside a fenced yard will keep out alot of snakes. The Brown Snakes are not one of my most well learned species but I believe that they are 'ground' snakes, their natural tendancy would be to follow a brick wall rather climb over it. BTW I read a comment in that thread where someone mentioned being chased by a snake. That is a myth, snakes don't chase people, period. Especially not when they are defending themselves. Also I think I remember reading somewhere that wombats will sometimes maul dogs, is that true? Quote
felicia Posted June 20, 2005 Author Posted June 20, 2005 never heard of wombats doing that but then again, there aren't any where i live, i'f love to see one though :D who will be back? sorry for being nosey :lol: felicia Quote
felicia Posted June 20, 2005 Author Posted June 20, 2005 LOL That bad huh? okay okay, i'll drop it, you have me even more curious now though :lol: felicia Quote
imported_Kat Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 Its a matter of personal choice really, but I would never leave any of my own dogs outside alone or any dogs that I would petsit. It only takes a moment for someone to walk in and steal a dog and in the UK dognapping for ransom is rife! Quote
courtnek Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 K napisał(a):I have other people saying the P word and now you mentioned Wombats...she will be back for sure now :roll: LOL@K!!! nah, she wont. Felicia, Primmy is a former poster who was basically hell on wheels... we DONT want her back, she caused too much trouble... 8) so cheeky, make sure you keep her AWAY! 8) Quote
felicia Posted June 21, 2005 Author Posted June 21, 2005 thank goodness or i might have to start :drinking: oh wait , i already do! mmmm homebrew :drinking: :drinking: :drinking: felicia Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 ACK COURT WHAT DID YOU DO>> LOL she just snesed her name was spoken.. *runs and hides* Quote
JackieMaya Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 I'm so glad that this is the scariest thing that ever turns up around my yard! Quote
felicia Posted June 21, 2005 Author Posted June 21, 2005 oh wow, that's so cute! i wish we had them in Australia :D felicia Quote
JackieMaya Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 felicia napisał(a):oh wow, that's so cute! i wish we had them in Australia :D felicia Yeah, they're cute, but they drive my dogs (especially Pooh Bear) crazy! Quote
courtnek Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 tree rats. tree rats I tell ya, they make my dogs nuts.sit in the trees and throw things down on them while chattering away... *grumble, grumble* 8) Quote
JackieMaya Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 Those damn squirrels even taunt Pooh Bear when he's in the house! I was downstairs the other day and he just started barking like crazy upstairs. I went up there, and about 20 feet in front of the picture window where he was on the sofa was a little squirrel just sitting there taunting him. "Neener neener neener, you can't get me!" Quote
Canis erectus Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 Verminous little bags filth! Can't stand them, and this town has more squirrils than Bill Gates has money. When me and the girls are staring up at them in the trees wondering what they might taste like I can swear I see the buggers sneering at us. Fred hates them too, spotting them too close to the house will send him into fits. I actually have a hilarious story about Fred and the squirrils. After we first moved here the summer before last I was sitting on the back porch with Fred so he could get some sunshine and fresh air. After awhile he spotted the bird seed on the ground that was scattered from the feeder by the squirrils (this was before I realized that it's inane to spend $6 on a bag of bird seed that the squirrils will only destroy in a weeks time) and he decided to hop down and go see what it tasted like. After a bit a squirril came down out of a tree and headed for the bird feeder, note that the squirrils here are quite brazen, especially the ones at my house since the old people in the apartments next door are always feeding them. This squirril thought that he was going to eat some more of my bird seed, but instead when he got too close Fred squealed and charged him with his wings out and his little 'hat' (his crest) standing on end. I started laughing so hard that I could barely watch Fred hopping after that tree rat across the yard. By the time I could get myself together and decide to go collect Fred, he was stomping around the tree that the rodent had ran up and was hitting his beak on the ground and screaming like an angry mob. Ah yes, that was fun, I'm laughing aloud right now just remembering it. Quote
JackieMaya Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 Canis erectus napisał(a):Verminous little bags filth! Can't stand them, and this town has more squirrils than Bill Gates has money. When me and the girls are staring up at them in the trees wondering what they might taste like I can swear I see the buggers sneering at us. Fred hates them too, spotting them too close to the house will send him into fits. I actually have a hilarious story about Fred and the squirrils. After we first moved here the summer before last I was sitting on the back porch with Fred so he could get some sunshine and fresh air. After awhile he spotted the bird seed on the ground that was scattered from the feeder by the squirrils (this was before I realized that it's inane to spend $6 on a bag of bird seed that the squirrils will only destroy in a weeks time) and he decided to hop down and go see what it tasted like. After a bit a squirril came down out of a tree and headed for the bird feeder, note that the squirrils here are quite brazen, especially the ones at my house since the old people in the apartments next door are always feeding them. This squirril thought that he was going to eat some more of my bird seed, but instead when he got too close Fred squealed and charged him with his wings out and his little 'hat' (his crest) standing on end. I started laughing so hard that I could barely watch Fred hopping after that tree rat across the yard. By the time I could get myself together and decide to go collect Fred, he was stomping around the tree that the rodent had ran up and was hitting his beak on the ground and screaming like an angry mob. Ah yes, that was fun, I'm laughing aloud right now just remembering it. LOL! That would be hysterical! I would have peed myself watching that! Quote
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