ESSlover Posted May 7, 2005 Posted May 7, 2005 Can someone come trian my dad?! He's being incredibly... confusing, with Carson. Dad'll let Carse chew on his sleeve and play tug, then 4 mins later, he starts yelling at him not to chew on his sleeve.... :o wtf? He doesnt use the list of words that we have... (aka when you want him to sit, say sit, not sit down... when u want his belly to the floor, you say down, not lay down, not lay...) When he wants Carse to drop something, he talks to him like a human, "Carson gimme that! You arent allowed to chew on it! Give it here!!!" :roll: And then the all famous "Cool it" .. said 13 times before Carse actually knows what to do. Wasn't there a sort of rule saying that you should only say a command once? :-? The list goes on... but you get my drift. Just had to rant :D I dont know how we're going to get Carson trained with my dad letting him get by with everything... Quote
DogPaddle Posted May 7, 2005 Posted May 7, 2005 I have the same problem with my brother especially when he wants Kavik to move - he just shoves him. He will also play with, pet and scratch Kavik sometimes when he approaches him and other times he will shove him away - Kavik knows a command for not right now or go away or whatever - "get lost." I know not the sweetest sounding command but with so many people around Kavik learned that one all on his own. Generally now I can use it (in a neutral tone) and he will go do his own thing for a bit and try again later. He says he's a dog and he is "lower on the totem pole" so he aught to move - which I don't object to but: - Kavik has a wide range of commands he responds to including "move it", "back up", "down", "off-down", "out of bounds" for any area he's not allowed in - he is pretty good an surmising the implied boundary of "out of bounds" but he sometimes need reinforcement, "kitchen" for when you want him right out of the way, "that way" if you point he will often but not always go the right way but he still knows to move. - Brother is a large, imposing man, who can be quite gruff - Kavik, who is a worrier and a sweet little softy isn't responding well to him in the first place and the shoving isn't helping. - Sometimes Kavik is asleep or not paying attention when Brother starts shoving. It startles him or something and he will growl or huff - this results in Brother feeling he should reinforce pack order in his own demented version of NILIF (that doesn't involve him using commands) - cycle repeats. Quote
rotten_two Posted May 7, 2005 Posted May 7, 2005 oy vei! send your dad back for a remedial lesson! you know we do have behavior question and answer sessions (free to clients). you don't bring the dogs -- you could bring pops -- we'll straighten him out! unfortunately i find this habit is seen more in the human males. maybe that part of their brain that controls consistency is small or under-exercised? Quote
Kerislc Posted May 7, 2005 Posted May 7, 2005 Kasey does the same thing and then gets frustrated when Scout doesn't obey. I just laugh. :roll: Quote
pomeranians Posted May 7, 2005 Posted May 7, 2005 My mom acts like that with all our dogs. Gets very annoying to me, and I'm sure extremly confuzing to the dogs. :roll: Quote
Canis erectus Posted May 7, 2005 Posted May 7, 2005 I think that men tend to think and act in a less structured manner than women. I myself am pretty inconsistant with my terminology and thus my dogs have learned to recognize different terms for the same commands. :roll: It's Hannah that really sows confusion with the dogs. For example she really hates begging and even having the dogs in her line of sight while she eats a meal tends to irk her. However this is the woman that will sometimes give them a bit of whatever she's snacking on if she thinks I'm not looking. :x The most major fights that we've had as a couple have been on this particular subject. ESS, maybe get a basic training book if you think you can get your dad to read it. Or get several books and have your dad just read the section about consitency in each one (almost every training book will devote at least a few paragraphs stating the importance of consistancy). Failing that, you and I could always trade dogs for a week. After living with my girls for a week he'll be so terrified of living with an improperly trained dog he'll get himself straightened out quick. He may even start a foundation for untrained dogs in need. :wink: Quote
courtnek Posted May 8, 2005 Posted May 8, 2005 ok I'm the bad guy here I do that all the time. I will howver follow the ranting command with the one they know..ex: lay your ass down NOW! Lay down! eventually they learn the other command as well.... :oops: Quote
ESSlover Posted May 8, 2005 Author Posted May 8, 2005 rotten_two napisał(a):oy vei! send your dad back for a remedial lesson! you know we do have behavior question and answer sessions (free to clients). you don't bring the dogs -- you could bring pops -- we'll straighten him out! unfortunately i find this habit is seen more in the human males. maybe that part of their brain that controls consistency is small or under-exercised? Bwahhaha... We may just have to do that! You should see him with Carson.. its just.. grrrr.. BTW - My friend and I are thinking about doing obediance this summer w/ her dog, Teddie, and Carson... I'll look at the schedule tonight! Quote
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