Hey Goo hows the Harness?

[CincoandDahlilasgirl]

Sorry I would have PM'd ya but I posted like this incase other people had insite on this topic. Anyways I read a few days ago that u got Goo and Annie no pull harnesses and was wondering how they worked as in if they really do the job or not? I'm asking cuz I want to get 1 for Cinco and Dahlila at petco for $10.00
Heres one off the site

[CincoandDahlilasgirl]

check ur pm's goo. I'm trying to sound desperate just that I want to know b4 i go to petco this weeken kwim? :wink:
Neway thanks for the help.

[Lucky Chaos]

I had one of those for my GSD and it didn't help with pulling at all, in fact it made it worse. I suggest a halti if you want him to stop.

CincoandDahlilasgirl napisał(a):

check ur pm's goo. I'm trying to sound desperate just that I want to know b4 i go to petco this weeken kwim? :wink:
Neway thanks for the help.

What's "kwim"?

[abker17]

The harness you posted a pic of isn't meant to stop pulling, as far as I know. They make special no-pull harnesses, that would be labled as so.

[CincoandDahlilasgirl]

Actualy if u goto petco's website it says that and it's a halti or atleast the ones at the store that I have on hold until I can bring Cinco in for a fitting(they had 2 different sizes in mediums) are.
kwim is the abrivation(sp) for know what I mean.

[Lucky Chaos]

Halti is a brand of head halter, that acts like a horse halter. And it wouldn't make sense that it would really help with pulling. If you think about it a dogs body is going to be stronger then its neck isn't it? So it seems (and it was from personal experience) that it would make pulling worse, not better. You asked for input, and I gave you mine. It didn't help. My GSD had never been on a leash before (rescue) and the halti did wonders for her.

[CincoandDahlilasgirl]

Thankz for the input.

The petco by me had Halti head collars and Halti body collars(I swear) when I go I'm gonna see if they can pull both out to try on Cinco.

[gooeydog]

Sorry it took me so long, I spent all day preparing for a test I thought I had in my class tonight, but turns out it's not til thursday anyway, a whole day wasted :roll:

I'm afraid I can't be of much help anyway since the harnesses I got are not anti-pull harnesses, and are actually made to allow/encourage the dog to pull, the opposite of what you're looking for. Both of my two are trained to walk nicely on flat collars, and when I want extra control (since both can be dog aggressive, there are times when I like the additional control of a training collar) or am expecting them to act less disciplined than normal, I use a prong collar.

Part of the confusion that you've seen may be because the harness in the picture shown is a regular walking harness, and in most cases will not stop a dog from pulling, and may even encourage it, since the dog can lean their body into the harness more easily than with a collar. As far as I know (and I just checked the site of the makers of the Halti, nothing there either), the Halti head collar is the only product they manufacture under the Halti name. They do sell a "Holt harness", which may be a no pull harness, there wasn't a pic or description. It could also be that whoever you spoke to was suggesting you use the head collar as a harness, which can be done with small dogs, though I don't know it'd stop a dog from pulling like a harness intended for that. I tried Goo's Halti on Annie as a harness, and was not impressed with the way it worked, the nose loop goes around their neck, which I did not like since the nose loop constricts (though it didn't seem to do it to the point of constricting their throat, I think there are better designs available).

There are several brands and styles of no-pull harnesses available. The first type, which has been around longer, has a neck "collar" and straps which are ran under the dog's chest (between their legs) from the collar to a point where they meet and are connected to the leash. The dog pulls, and the straps constrict, pulling their legs/chest and making it uncomfortable/difficult for them to pull. The Sporn harness ( http://sporn.com/ ) is this style.

The second type is newer, and has only been on the market now for a year or two. It has a girth and another strap that runs from the girth around the front of the dog's chest. There is a ring in the center of the chest strap, to which the leash is attached. The concept here is that you can lead the dog's chest, and the rest of it will follow. The Sense-ation ( http://www.softouchconcepts.com/ ) harness and Easy Walk harness ( http://www.gentleleader.com/pages.cfm?id=74 ) are both examples of this type of harness.

I'm not a fan of relying on any collar or harness simply to prevent a dog from doing a behavior, but they can all have their place in actively training a dog.

[CincoandDahlilasgirl]

thankz goo. :wink:

That came up when i typed "no pull harness" on the petco site(no petsmart here)

[JackieMaya]

This is what I got for Pooh Bear today, but I haven't tried it yet. It's made by Four Paws and it's called a "No-Pull Trainer." I had a plain old harness on him the first day, and it worked great, but he chewed it in half the second day-LOL.

The No-Pull Trainer will stop any dog, any size from pulling.
Now walking your dog will be a pleasure for any member of your family -- not a chore.
For maximum control without choking your dog
Endorsed by trainers and dog walkers to stop any size dog from pulling

[Baileysmom]

I too would like to know if that one works well...... I think thats the one I wanted to get at petsmart (or else it was something similar that promises no pulling) but the people there said they get them back all the time because it rubs and makes sores under the dogs arms. they convinced me to get the gentle leader, but Im still not sure Im real happy with it. she does MUCH better, but occasionally does try to pull still and Im afraid could hurt her neck :( another trainer keeps saying to try the prong, and Im thinking about it, but not sure on that either. I know all these methods arent really training her not to pull anyway, and thats really what Id like so she can walk on any collar, but none of the methods I was trying were working at all. I just want to bea able to take her on enjoyable family walks, etc! :wink:

[CincoandDahlilasgirl]

[quote name='JackieMaya']This is what I got for Pooh Bear today, but I haven't tried it yet. It's made by Four Paws and it's called a "No-Pull Trainer." I had a plain old harness on him the first day, and it worked great, but he chewed it in half the second day-LOL.

The No-Pull Trainer will stop any dog, any size from pulling.
Now walking your dog will be a pleasure for any member of your family -- not a chore.
For maximum control without choking your dog
Endorsed by trainers and dog walkers to stop any size dog from pulling

Thats it! Thats the one I'm getting Cinco. I saw it at Petco and thought it was a Halti since it was thrown in with the Halties.

[CincoandDahlilasgirl]

For everyone that was wondering if it works...It DOES! But u need to have patience when u read the instructions it took me a little bit to figure out the heck they were talking about.

I wish they had another color besides black though since I'm putting the black harness on black fur :roll:

[courtnek]

I have a no-pull harness for Free, and it works great. for the armpits part I wrapped foam around that part and duct taped it. no rash, no soreness.

and Free pulls like she's running from hell without it...

8)

[Yoladybug]

This may be a dumb question, but what makes it "no pull?" Does it make them uncomfortable if they're pulling, cause pain (although I doubt this many people on this board would use it if it caused pain), or what? Abby pulls me down the road, and although we've made some progress, I still have a hard time walking her. This is something I'd consider getting, I'm just wondering what makes it work.
Thanks!

[CincoandDahlilasgirl]

Yoladybug napisał(a):

This may be a dumb question, but what makes it "no pull?" Does it make them uncomfortable if they're pulling, cause pain (although I doubt this many people on this board would use it if it caused pain), or what? Abby pulls me down the road, and although we've made some progress, I still have a hard time walking her. This is something I'd consider getting, I'm just wondering what makes it work.
Thanks!

Actualy I'm wondering that to. If anyone knows how it works besides that it eases up on the pulling let me know.

[Guest Anonymous]

From a suggestion from pumkin the musher, I bought a halti.
The halti is great, it doesn't irratate Kiani at all. And no their necks are not stronger. They can stiffen themselves out so it doesn't work, but 9 times out of 10, they're happy to be on thier walk and relaxed to let it work.
Plus the halti is a whole lot cheaper. I bought it on Ebay for $5 plus 2.50 for shipping (anywhere in the US).
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZscorpion1298
He always puts up halties for 5.00 starting bid, so if you get outbidded, wait till it sells then grab up the next one. As far as sizes go, the size 2 fit Kiani (a sammy mix). So go to a local pet store that carries them and try it on your dog. The packages aren't sealed, so you can open and replace it with no problem. If an associate asks if you'd like to purchase it, tell them you have to come back next payday. I know they sell for about 20-25$ in the stores.
It is the greatest thing ever. It doesn't hurt, and works wonders. I was to a point that I could never walk Kiani, and out in public she'd freak out and try to run. And for a 45 lb dog that's a lot of weight and muscle pulling against 115lbs me. I also use it for training. Kiani knows she's in big trouble when I hold her mouth shut and tell her "No". So when the halti is on, I just have to yank it up for a moment, and it shuts her mouth, makes her look at me, and for me to tell her "No".
And a whole lot better than any choker collar. I can't stress it enough, "BUY A HALTI". It'll only take about 5 days to get it in the mail from ebay. And if you've been dealing with it for this long, a few more days won't kill you.

[CincoandDahlilasgirl]

I got the 1 JM posted and it works wonders for us.

[Guest Anonymous]

BTW, the most often thing you'll learn to say to any comments "It's not a muzzle, it's a halti. It prevents her from pulling".
You would think that if her tounge is hanging out and she's panting, she could very well bite anything if she wanted to. (Not that she's going to or anything). And there will be the occasional person that'll want to know more, and the occasional person that won't believe you. Muzzles are designed with a large piece of fabric over the mouth, and won't allow for the mouth to be open. If the tounge is out, then it's not a muzzle.
Yes it gets annoying listening to it and repeating yourself. But I feel a lot better about putting it on her, than one of those prong collars, which look like more torcher than a muzzle.

[JackieMaya]

I'm glad the harness works for you Cinco!

I haven't tried it on Pooh Bear yet, because I don't want to take him for a walk when he's limping so much. And he's hairy enough that I wouldn't think that the rubbing would be a problem.

[Freckles]

Wow :o ! That really does work Lee!

[courtnek]

the "no pull" part is based on the logistics of how a dog walks. the harness wraps around their front legs and then comes up along the back and secures at the neck, behind the collar. it causes a leg pull when they pull. if they pull too hard, it can cause the front legs to collapse. most of them dont, because they feel the tension on the front of their legs and stop before they fall. it will pull their legs in and out from under them if they dont stop. they will stop instinctively, in most cases, rather than fall. its a great tool in training "no pull" if you add the command while you're walking.

the problem is that with a strong puller, like Free, the harness will rub the armpit area raw if they refuse to stop. this needs to be used with a strong
NO PULL command, and pull them up short, during training. Once they have adjusted, they wont pull because they dont like the outcome.

I put foam on hers for training. I no longer need it, as soon as she sees the harness she knows she is going for "walkies" and behaves very well the whole time.

[JackieMaya]

Well, I can't tell you how the no-pull harness worked on Pooh Bear, because he chewed it in half before we got out the door! :tard:

But Pooh Bear really doesn't pull much at all once we get going, so I just attach a leash to his regular collar.

But I've switched from Gentle Leaders to Haltis. I think Haltis are a lot more comfortable for the dogs than the Gentle Leaders, and they work just great! I walked all three dogs together today, and Jackie and Maya both walked on a slack leash with their Haltis on. I HIGHLY recommend the Haltis!