Nae_Nae_Nookie Posted October 19, 2004 Posted October 19, 2004 Didi & Lucky (shih tzu pup got renamed) went to the groomers today.And since this dog was found wandering in the streets,it had tons of tangles & matts on him.So we took him to the groomer & it was a furry head,naked body lol!!They were going to leave the tail fluffy too,but it had too many knots.How long does it take for a shih tzu's coat to grow?And it doesn't sit the same anymore,it use to sit with the legs stretching out,now it sits like Didi,in a curl ball sorta way.But he looks so silly,glad to see that face under all that fur!! :lol: Quote
Horsefeathers! Posted October 20, 2004 Posted October 20, 2004 pwrpufgirlz napisał(a): HF, do you brush the dogs before you start clipping? Generally, most dogs go straight to the tub- bath, hand dry, fluff (brushing through during that last bit of drying) and then clip. I almost never clip a dog before it's been bathed and brushed and I never brush a dog before the bath. Quote
MajiesMom Posted October 20, 2004 Posted October 20, 2004 I was taught (and just know from work) that you pet the dog all over at the door while the owner is there discussing the clip so you can feel for matts and let the owner know right away whether or not what they want done can be done. If when you get working on the dog and discover you can't do what you had agreed on with the owner you get on the phone with them before you do any differently- but usually you can tell from the beginning. Some dogs I brush out matts before the bath. Sometimes it just creates more work for the groomer to brushout the dog before the bath when you have to do it after anyway. I wouldn’t go to a groomer that makes decisions like shaving down my dog without discussing it with me first. Quote
MajiesMom Posted October 20, 2004 Posted October 20, 2004 Sorry if this is off topic but HF just wondering because I am learning to become a groomer...why do you almost never clip a dog before the bath? The only time I don't clip a dog before a bath is if they come in very regularly and a preclip doesn't make any sense as not much comes off so doesn't make a difference in drying time. Double coated dogs we cage dry and clip dogs we dry with velocity dryers. Quote
Horsefeathers! Posted October 20, 2004 Posted October 20, 2004 I was initially taught to preclip everything before the bath. As time went by and I started learning from some "senior" groomers and handlers on some of the groups, I found that I can get a great finish in way less time if I skip the preclip and bathe them first and put a good fluffin' on them. The first few times I read it, I was skeptical, but when I tried it, it worked. I think most everyone is initially taught to preclip first. It turned out to be a waste of time to me once I learned that I could get as nice a finish without first preclipping. Not only that, but it's much harder on blades to have to clip through dirty coat. My blades don't have to go out to be sharpened nearly as often... maybe once a year. It's just really important that the coat be squeaky clean and have a good fluff finish, but clipping just once over is wonderful. Beside that, my clientele consists almost solely of prebooked dogs that come in from every two weeks to every eight weeks. There are very, very few dogs I have that go longer than eight weeks between grooms. Because of this, I almost never have to deal with matted dogs... maybe a little in ears and tails occasionally, but that's it. On double coated dogs ESPECIALLY I force dry because it's one of my biggest tools in blowing out that undercoat. I know on showdogs they don't want to remove too much undercoat, but with all of my doublecoated dog clients, they want as much of that fluff gone as possible. I'll admit I'm a compulsive dryer. I hand dry almost everything and very seldom cage dry. The only dogs I don't hv dry are the ones that are very frail or sensitive that stress over it. I know I'd never just buzz a dog down without owner consent. Back when I used to do the good, the bad, and the ugly, I'd always make the owner aware that the dog would need a buzz cut. It doesn't much matter around here, anyway, because most people WANT them short. Quote
Cairn6 Posted October 20, 2004 Posted October 20, 2004 At the grooming shop my sister worked at she always brushed the dogs out to get rid of any matts before the bath and at that time she would clip the nails, clean the ears, etc. Then after bathing they were dried and then clipped. But if the dog was too matted they always called the owner to get approval. It was a shop that specialized in "difficult" dogs so you wouldn't believe some of the matted up dogs that came in. Some were abusive in my opinion but it doesn't do any good to call anyone because just by bringing them there they were making an effort so there was nothing they could do about it. I used to work with her sometimes and was appalled by the condition of some of the dogs. Quote
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