Someone PLEASE explain how this can be---

[Guest Anonymous]

A Labradoodle AKC and CKC registered?

Okay so maybe by adults they mean the Lab or the Doodle but doesn't this ad seem like maybe they are pulling the wool over someone eyes!

Quality Labradoodles for Quality homes

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Reply to: bootss@lycos.com
Date: 2004-08-10, 4:58PM CDT


Due to concurrent breedings we have both F1 and F1b labradoodle pups available thru the end of this year.All adults are AKC,CKC registered with Hip OFA scores from good-excellent.25 month guarantee on all genetic diseases.
1-866-Wavydog (toll free)

http://labradoodle.net


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38961176

http://neworleans.craigslist.org/pet/38961176.html

[xavierandrea]

:o Did you see the asking $ on the puppies? $1250. Also did you see that they are trying to sell 2 of their studs because they have replacements for them??? The parent must be AKC reg but not the pups since Labordoodles(sp) are not recognized by the AKC.

[imported_Cassie]

All adults are AKC,CKC registered with Hip OFA scores from good-excellent.25 month guarantee on all genetic diseases.

It sounds to me as if they are doing quality breeding with health certified parents.
I think its great that some one is trying to get some of our purebreds out of the horrible genetic pickle they are currently in.
Just remember where all of our purebreds came from in the first place. They all come from mixed histories. Purebreds are man made creations with small gene pools, which leads to genetic diseases.
Its funny how people of yesteryear where much smarter when it came to breeding than we are today. In the times of old they bred their best dog to the best dog no matter if it was of the same type etc. They created our current purebreds, but, the problem is we stopped and closed the stud books on a small population of dogs and called them purebreds.

[Shenanigans]

CKC probably refers to the Continental Kennel Club which will register a Hot Dog. The Canadian Kennel Club has been seeking ways (unsuccessfully) to avoid confusion with such a club. The Canadian Kennel Club if you can get your registrations ever completed has pretty strict standards of what is registerable.

[imported_Cassie]

The only thing is Cassie are the adults purebreds or are they labordoodles? If they are labordoodles, then they are not AKC registered. I think that's a little deceiving.

All adults are AKC,CKC registered with Hip OFA scores from good-excellent.25 month guarantee on all genetic diseases.

The way I take it is that the parents are a purebred Lab and a purebred Poodle crossbred to make a Labordoodle.
I really think all this narrow mindness on the part of our current breeders is what is creating genetically unhealthy dogs. For myself, I think healthy breeding should involve the reintroduction of the breeds used to orginally make up the breed in the first place. It really bothers me that people have some warped view on what a purebred dog really is. It almost seems as though people view each purebred as a seperate species.
For myself, I think crossbreeding genetically healthy breeds is healthy breeding bringing new blood into a breed. The kennel clubs are slowly ruining our dogs by being so anal about purebred breeding. It scares me to think if they ever got a hold of human children and the only ones allowed to breed when they hit maturity are the ones which can win beauty contests and have the right "look"...its a very unhealthy way to keep good genetics. :wink:
When you look back at the history of our breeds they each evolved from major crossbreeding. The only difference is today we stopped bringing in new blood to keep the gene pool fresh. If you look at a purebred dog, there may seem to be a big population of them...but, if you looked at the gene pool they come from it is very small and limited.
So for me, I have no problems with crossbreeding. I do have a problem with over population...and IMO all people who breed are contributing to this problem.

[ESSlover]

[quote name='Cassie'] I do have a problem with over population...and IMO all people who breed are contributing to this problem.

I agree. My cousins have gotten both of their dogs from breeders. Thier first from a Soft-Coated Weaton Terrior and they just got a Labradoodle. They are cute little buggers tho :wink: But still, go to the pound or a rescue if you want a specific breed, plus you pay less.

But not to offend any breeders here. If you are breeding to improve the temperment or health of a dog then thats ok. But if you just do it for the $$$$$$ then thats stupid, no offense.

Note: Sorry, I quoted too much of it

[Guest Anonymous]

if you look on the page and click on the little black paw print by where it says our lab is preg. there is a pic of a yellow lab and a poodle, i'm guess ing they are the paretns, sot he parents are not labapoodle s or what ever they are labs and poodles..

[Guest Anonymous]

http://www.labradoodle.net/Breed_Schedule.html

read that and it tells you a bout the parents..

[Guest Anonymous]

Thank you for the answers.

As in these particular breeders being "good" well I'm sorry but why the heck would I pay 1250.00 for dogs I can't show!!!!!!!!!!

The Contentinal Kennel Club is one reason I lost my last job (Still unemployed almost a year later)....I was working for a firm that had them as a client and after pulling their file and handing it to my boss I asked not to work on that particular client. When asked why and I told them...well Boss man didn't like my "negative attitude about the people that pay my salary"

I just don't think these people are all that. They are creating a designer breed. Not trying to better the Labs or the Poodles.

[Guest Mutts4Me]

Okay, now, I click on this thread, having NO CLUE as to its contents, and one of those two ads that run at the top reads:

Labradoodle Meetup Day
Meetup with Labradoodle lovers Local events at friendly venues!

So I read that, think "okay, whatever" and move on to the thread. I see "Labradoodle," stop in confusion. Weird movement. Is that coincidence, or do the ads somehow reflect the contents of a thread? I've noticed some that seemed to have been coincidences before, but this was quite odd (Labradoodles not being the most commonly mentioned dogs).

[courtnek]

I agree with Cassie to quite an extent. Our "purebreds" as we know them all started out as mixing different types of dogs to get the one with the best working ability. That was the whole purpose. Looks werent the issue, shows werent the issue, they needed a dog to do a specific task. That's why Doxies are long and low, to crawl through holes. That's where the "Eye" of the BC came from. That's where the water resistant double coat of the Lab came in......

we can keep our purebreds more "pure" by introducing different strains of
DNA to the breeding process. With a small gene pool, more genetic defects pop up all the time. Nature did not intend this, we are making our own rules, and the dogs are paying for it.

While I dont really agree with creating more "breeds" (with a few exceptions, like the "Golden Lab", but we've been over this already)
I do think breeders should make a concious choice to crossbreed other strains into the litter, to keep the dogs healthier.

IMO.

[TDG]

[quote name='Mutts4Me']Okay, now, I click on this thread, having NO CLUE as to its contents, and one of those two ads that run at the top reads:

Labradoodle Meetup Day
Meetup with Labradoodle lovers Local events at friendly venues!

So I read that, think "okay, whatever" and move on to the thread. I see "Labradoodle," stop in confusion. Weird movement. Is that coincidence, or do the ads somehow reflect the contents of a thread? I've noticed some that seemed to have been coincidences before, but this was quite odd (Labradoodles not being the most commonly mentioned dogs).

meetup.com is a website you can use as a tool to organize and schedule meetups of any kind, for any interest group. those google ads appear by use of a certain key word algorithm, just like you get certain ads on yahoo when doing a serch on particular keywords.

it's actually a nice feature if you have an interest group or if you are looking to find a certain interest group near you.

[Horsefeathers!]

TDG, is there anything you don't know? :wink:

[Canis erectus]

I'm in disagreement about Labradoodles being a 'designer breed'. There was/is an actual intent in crossbreeding these two types of dogs. I'm not 100% certain but I believe it started out in Australia as a program to create a dog that is more 'dog allergy friendly'.

The idea was two crossbreed Labs and Poodles in order to get a dog of a desired size, the great disposition and trainablity of both the origional breeds, with far less shedding than a Lab and far less coat maintainance than a Poodle. The last I heard about the project was a few years ago and at that time they had about a 25% success rate in achieving their goals in each litter and hadn't quite gotten a dog that bred true to type yet.

Of course there are folks who hop on the "idea bandwagon" who had heard about Labradoodles and thought that would be the next novel thing in dog breeds, and alot of those (if not most) are just back yard breeders producing unsound problematic animals (does this sound familiar to anyone familiar with Cockapoo?). There are those however, who are striving to create a breed of dog for a specific purpose (just as mankind has always done) and who are intent on creating an animal upmost quality, such as the breeders featured in this thread.

Just because a breed hasn't been around for a century or so doesn't make it designer, just new or in the process. I for one can certainly see the value in a dog that has the best qualities of both Labs and Poodles.

*If anyone is familiar with 'Daisies', now THAT'S a useless designer breed.