Guest Anonymous Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 I have a nine month old (roughly) femal Chihuahua. Roughly 4 to 6 weeks ago she went into her first heat. I noticed it probably her first 2 to 3 days into the process, I put her in my room and kept the boys out of the room. She has from the time I noticed to the rest of the heat not been with a male. Now she is showing signs that her mother did, her tits are getting a bit fuller but this started right after the heat cycle was done. Could this be becuase she is pregant or that after a first cycle this just happens? She isnt that I can tell getting fatter but her stomach is a bit tighter. I have a few questions so please bare with me as Im clueless as to a first heat cycle and what the implications of all of them are yet I dealt with her mother from her third heat and on. Q. She's less then a year old, I've never known a female to have puppies before they were a full year or more does this mean ether a. they just havent been gotten with or is this just something natural? Q. Within the first two to five days of heat can she even get pregant. My understanding is the female can not become pregant until she is flowing heavily, and that she wont even allow the males to mount her Q. Right after she stopped the cycle her tits began to get a bit fuller. Could this be becuase she is pregant or that after a first cycle this just happens? [from the top but its still a question] I'd be thankful for any help that I can get. Quote
mouseatthebusstop Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 yes many puppies do have puppies on their first season It is not recomended untill the third season it could be a phathom pregnacy I would have her checked by your vet just to make sure with you having a male in the house Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 alright ty, and I dont have the male in the house anymore and may i ask what you mean by a 'phantom pregancy' what is that exactly? Quote
mouseatthebusstop Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 the dog is not having puppies but her body thinks she is, it is quite common you might lind this link interesting http://www.dog-e-data.com.au/../ask_amy/ask_amy_first_heat.htm Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 Alrighty thanks. Im hoping she's not pregant but it makes me wonder. I only noticed the tightness in the last 24hrs. I know she got into some noodles that my husband rushing to work forgot to put back in the fridge. How she actually got em who knows. I could be worrying over nothing but still with the tits being swollen but not persay to big as her mothers it makes me wonder. Thank you for the help Quote
pLaurent Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 Why don't you just get her spayed?? That will put an end to false pregnancies, heat cycles and the risk of accidental breedings. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 ok so noone answered the question. do swollen nipples after a first heat happen only in false pregnancies or if was she is in fact pregnant? or is this a normal response after a (first)heat? I want to know myself I am in the same situation -my dog is 6 months old now :oops: Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 ok i found my own answer: "......The nipples will enlargen somewhat. This period can last anywhere from 4-14 days as well. At the end of this stage, the vulva is at maximal size. At this point the bitch is fertile and ready to be bred, and will accept male dogs. This stage lasts for several days. After the first heat cycle, the bitch's vulva and nipples will shrink down, but not to the puppy size that they were before. However, there is much individual variation. Some bitches can show little or no sign of being in season throughout much of their estrus cycle. Some will always accept male dogs (even when they are not yet fertile) and others never accept them...." Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 I honestly have no idea. I have not had a female go into heat since 1995 actually probably before that since Spice (To answer all questions now...Spice was Nealcrests Cajun Spice CDX working on UD when retired mom thought 5 was to old to spay....she learned later she should have) developed Pyrometria (Sp?) and was close to dying. I'll never forget that night either. I was a vet tech at an emergency clinic when my mom comes through the door crying with dad carrying Spice in (Spice was my mom's heart dog and I was often jealous of the attention the dog got while I was growing up). She was bloated around the middle and mom was sure it was bloat. We got her on the X-ray and started working. We realized quickly she wasn't bloated (probably a good thing I don't think I could do that surgery on my dog). Doc hooked her to IV antibiotics and we set to work with my mom answering phones to give her something to do. Dad was outside chain smoking and pacing using my dog Sugar needing a walk as an excuse (Sugar always went to work with me). Her utuerus looked like ground meat (good thing that's not on the menu tonight). It was disgusting. She stayed with me over night and went home the next day. It would have been a $1100 vet visit if the vet didn't just tell my mom don't worry about it. SOmething about raising a wonderful dog loving daughter and that he was going to use this to teach me a lesson! LOL One I didn't need even at that point I'd done one to many C-sections at 2 am. ANyway Yes I'm always long winded I have no clue but I do hope it is just a hormone reaction. How long has it been since her heat? Quote
coastie_wife Posted July 22, 2004 Posted July 22, 2004 When we brought home our female chi mix Foxy back in april she was in heat. We had no idea regarding her age or anything else, just that she was female and not spayed. A week or 2 after her heat ended her nipples and vulva got swollen and her belly got swollen as well, and she began leaking milk and nesting. When she was checked out by the vet he said she *probably* was in a false pregnancy, very common in first heat (due to the formation of her teeth, etc he thought she was about 8 months old) because in a false pregnancy the symptoms arise more quickly than they do in a true pregnancy. He was right:) She is scheduled to be fixed next week. Not so worried about pregnancy so much as she does not go outside unsupervised (and our male dog is neutered) but she is an aggressive female who marks her territory like a male, lol. I have been told that might help curb the behavior in her. Then again, we neuter all of our dogs, the only reason she isn't yet is that we took her in RIGHT before we moved cross country and simply ran out of money and time, lol. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 23, 2004 Posted July 23, 2004 Lucki's nipples are still the same but she's not swollen and her stomach isnt tight, I have an appt with her vet still next week to make sure but it was ether a phantom pregancy as suggested or ::trys not to laugh:: my husband thinks she was bloated from pms :oops::P Im not sure but she is acting the same I havent noticed any nesting actions and I think if it was the first she should be fine her lil butt is getting fixed ether way lol. Thanks for the help ^^ :) Quote
Beautiful Border Collie Posted July 25, 2004 Posted July 25, 2004 Are you going to get her spayed? her lil butt is getting fixed ether way lol. i believe that was the answer anyway, my female went into heat in January. My male and her mated. Her boobs were swollen, but no pups. Then, she went into heat again in March. Weird huh? 2 heats in 2 months. This time she did get pregnant. Would of got to your question sooner, just been gone to herding trials in Montana with my border collies. Quote
mouseatthebusstop Posted July 25, 2004 Posted July 25, 2004 My male and her mated. Her boobs were swollen, but no pups. Then, she went into heat again in March. Weird huh? 2 heats in 2 months. This time she did get pregnant. when you don't want puppies turn your back for a split second and puppies are on the way :o Quote
imported_Cassie Posted July 25, 2004 Posted July 25, 2004 but she is an aggressive female who marks her territory like a male, lol. I have been told that might help curb the behavior in her. Don't get your hopes up :-? I own 3 female dogs, 1 which is not spayed and 2 which are spayed...the most dominant dog I have is one of my spayed bitches. She is a Rottweiler and is a more dominant breed than my other 2 bitches which are Newfoundlands. My spayed Rottie marks and will try to get her urine marks as high as she can get them. That is just her, and I addressed her dominant issues as a "behavior problem" not a hormonal issue. Most aggressive tendancies are "created" by allowing our dogs away with alot. I found a big difference in my Rottie with the NIFIL policy where she has to earn every thing she gets. With all of my dogs I use this policy, when you have 6 dogs and 2 are intact males and you have an intact bitch you have to have rules. I found this works great for keeping order in my house hold. So, my suggestion to you is, if you have an aggression issue with your bitch work on the behavioral problem itself. Make sure you seek the advise of a certified animal behaviorist. Of course, get her spayed as well...spaying is just a smart idea all the way around. :wink: Quote
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