Crossposted- Mostly for rescue people....

[abker17]

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We recently had a very strange event that I think we should share around the rescue community:

Young (~2 years) male, a Lab mix, came into our program with a "questionable" background. He may have been aggressive toward some children, maybe not. We kept him for a good long while --- months of fostering in our premier foster home, with no problem -- and placed him carefully, with a single mid-age man who absolutely adored him. We also, as we do with all our dogs, tested him for Lyme. He had it; we treated it; case closed-- we thought.

Everything went very well after adoption -- he was the star of his obedience classes, a frequent alumni visitor to our clinics - for over a year. And truly adored by his adopter. Then, over a year after placement, Mojo became suddenly, erratically, and seriously aggressive: literally attacked visitors to the home, people at the vet's waiting room, etc.
Terrifying . Very sudden. Totally inexplicable. He was returned to us with genuine heartbreak from a very loving adopter.

Mojo then went to our regular vets and was a totally different dog: bared teeth and growling to anyone who approached his kennel, lunging at other dogs when being walked, etc. We figured that whatever was happening with him, he had become implacable and started a TDC (Tough Decisions Committee - something we "convene" and that is open to anyone with an interest in the dog when we think that euthanasia might be an option).

However, someone at the vet's office said that perhaps we should test him for Lyme. Huh???????? They had had a regular client of theirs come in recently with similar, out of the blue aggression, and it turned out that was the problem - puzzled them, but seemed to be the case. Okay -- hey, we'll try anything -- so we had him tested. He was high
positive! Fine, we started treatment while we continued to figure out what to do with him via the TDC. Almost immediately, however, once the antibiotics were begun, the Mojo we knew came back!! He was himself again -- bouncy, happy, a bit neurotic, but not at *all* aggressive! The staff at the vet's was amazed, but all confirmed this change.

We didn't believe it; and the veterinarians didn't believe it .... BUT a thorough search of the Internet turned up a number of studies and anecdotal observations indicating that in some dogs (and in some humans!!) the primary symptom of their Lyme Disease can be sudden, irrational and serious aggression. Well, we've known for a while to check the
thyroid levels of dogs that show aggression that just "doesn't fit". Now we have added testing for Lyme as well. And we have --- results not yet in -- another dog that we placed over a year ago who has been returned because of out-of-the-blue aggression ... and he has also tested high positive for Lyme! We've sta rted treatment and will be monitoring his response.

So --- plug this in to your protocols. It's worth checking out. I spent the day today with Mojo ... and he truly is just the same dog we placed over a year ago. (We've let his original adopter know -- because he vowed that it had to be *something* causing this behavior. But he cannot take Mojo back because his roommate, one of the people attacked, won't even consider it. For the record, there were no skin-breaking contacts in any of these attacks, but plenty of fear and we consider them as serious as if they were full-fledged bites.) We actually have additional insight into this because one of our volunteers (human) has had Lyme Disease. Took many months for her to be diagnosed, and once she was, she learned that it's a VERY nasty bug that really remains around
permanently, waiting for a chance to "crop up" again. When we place Mojo again (and our TDC unanimously agrees that w e should do this), we're going to explain the background, these amazing events, and require that the adopters have him tested every six months, whether or not he's showing symptoms. We have no idea whether that will work or be sufficient - we're rather flying blind in this -- but it seems a rationalapproach.

I'll post again if we learn more from the second dog (also a Lab mix). But based on what we know now, it is a real possibility: Lyme *can*, in a few rare cases, cause aggression, aggression that can be reversed.





Thought some of you rescue people out there might like to know about this!

[imported_Kat]

Very interesting indeed Abker and thanks for posting. Its not actually anything that I've ever come across, but then again Lymes wouldn't be rife with our cooler climate.

[courtnek]

thanks VERY much Abker!! we have a fairly high incidence of Lyme here, because there are SOOOO many deer around, in the forest preserves and woods. A thought, perhaps....I have a friend who got Lyme from Deer Ticks in Wisconsin. Never considered it, until the symptoms started. He gets bitten by ticks all the time, because he hunts in the Wisconsin woods during deer and duck season. (so WHERE are your high boots and long sleeve shirts, hmmmm? we've had this argument many times....)

Anyway, I remember him saying that during some of the stages of the disiease, he had extensive, horrendous joint pain.....He was diagnosed with arthritis, the ongoing type that continues to get worse over time (cant think of the name off the top) and all the drugs they gave him never helped any. The swelling would go down, but the pain never left. He said it got so bad he started searching around the net, and came across Lyme.
When he was tested it was confirmed. And they started him on intense antibiotic therapy, and pain killers (yes! pain killers! he couldnt take it any more) there were some other drugs too, for the swelling, and some anti-inflammatories....anyway, he got better.

He told me the pain was so intense that sometimes he just wanted to die...
actually thought about suicide. So maybe the dogs aggression could be contributed to pain? pain that they can no longer tolerate? Everyone knows to muzzle a dog hit by a car, because in pain they become extremely defensive....just a thought.