HE IS COMING HOME TOMORROW!!!!!!

[Guest Anonymous]

Hazel you hit the proverbial nail on the head. I am so glad that we got him too, he gets along so well with the other dogs. I m very pleased with him. he has a very different personality than either of my two pitties. (of course each dog is an individual) but its more than that. While Drey was very shy for the first week or so, until he got comfortable with all the new smells, people, sights and sounds, Deja took just a few days, Diallo took about 2 minutes. He was sitting in his crate when i opened the door he sat there for a minute, creeped to the edge of the crate and siffed the floor, and then exploded out wagging his tail and play bowing. It took him a minute to walk inside the house, or to go up/ down the stairs but once he does it once he is fine with it after that. so I am just being very wary to not let him get hurt or have any bad experiences. He seems to be pretty well crate trained though , I cant same the same for being house broken :-? I will be able to get it done in a week, but I didnt think he was coming until this weekend so I took next week off. I guess we will have to see how well this week goes and then that gives me a good jumping board for the types of training to work on my week off.

[kendalyn]

I notice that Diallo and Drey are males and both have their ears cropped and Deja is a female and you left her ears natural. Is that a coincidence or do you prefer males sport the cropped look? I'm just curious is all :)

[Guest Anonymous]

yes that is the case. I dont know why. My dobie was a female she was natural. My parents had a male and he was cropped. When i was little we had a pair of boxers the male was cropped the female was not. Its just always been that way. Males were cropped(depending on breed) females werent. Deja has the best ears though, i am so glad i didnt get her cropped, they are different all the time. one up one down, both up, both down, semi-erect, totally erect.... you just never know. I will say that i was kinda hoping for a longer crop this time around, but at least this time the crop is done well. the tip of the ear is still there and once they are healed they will sit really well.

Anyone have any tips on a healing? Right now we have his little lamp-shade and i put vitamin E gel caps and squeeze that on his ears in the mornings. is that sufficient, or should i be doing something else?

[Guest Anonymous]

i must say i am disappointed. i'm sure you'll give the pup a good home, but for someone who has a lot to say about bettering the breed, you sure do seem to go against everything pit owners are trying to accomplish. if you want to own giant blue "pit bulls" that's your business. i guess there's something for everyone. but be upfront about it and stand by it. don't go preaching about saving bullies and then buy into exactly what is destroying the breed. i truly think that a lot of people are upset by you seemingly saying one thing and doing another, rather than just the pup himself.

i'm not trying to be condescending or put you down in anyway. i'm just trying to perhaps, better explain why you're getting certain reactions. please don't take offense to this. good luck with the new pup.

[Guest Anonymous]

mydogroxynli napisał(a):

i must say i am disappointed. i'm sure you'll give the pup a good home, but for someone who has a lot to say about bettering the breed, you sure do seem to go against everything pit owners are trying to accomplish. if you want to own giant blue "pit bulls" that's your business. i guess there's something for everyone. but be upfront about it and stand by it. don't go preaching about saving bullies and then buy into exactly what is destroying the breed. i truly think that a lot of people are upset by you seemingly saying one thing and doing another, rather than just the pup himself.

i'm not trying to be condescending or put you down in anyway. i'm just trying to perhaps, better explain why you're getting certain reactions. please don't take offense to this. good luck with the new pup.

Okay, I know RNP can fight his own battles, but I feel I have to say something, if I sit by it's guna bug me all day...
How would you like it if you had always told people what you thought of as your perfect mate (human wise). And then one day you fell in love with someone who was COMPLETELY different from what you discribed, and everyone basiclly bashed you and called you a hippocrite (sp?) because you simply fell in love with someone who wasn't accepted by everyone, and who you didn't expect to find. This is no different, RnP fell for this little guy, and a bond between a human and dog is like no other, it's one freakin dog who needed a home and love, and RnP fell for him and is willing to give him that despite anything people think is wrong with him. So I personally think people shouldn't be so debating about it (I'm not talking about just you mydogroxy, because I read it on a totally different board as well) and go fight some battles worth fighting! Don't try to preach do someone who simply fell for a dog!

[Guest Anonymous]

I understand that but, ALL MY DOGS ARE BLUE. Obviously I like blue dogs. I agree with much that is said, and have lots to add but normally it is just general pit bull stuff. I dont see how i am doing one thing and saying another, i love blue dogs. I think its sad they are mass produced by some unscrupulous people but I still like them. By definition alone many people think that any kennel that has blue dogs is a BYB. sorry but thats not the case. just becuse a dog is blue doesnt mean it comes from a BYBer. Initially i just didnt post the link to his breeder becuase It never crossed my mind, now i dont want to. I dont feel as though i should have to explain my actions, i found a puppy, fell in love and brought him home. There are many a person that wishess they could do the same thing, I simply had the means,m the space and the time to do it. I could have rescued a dog, i know that.... I want to be able to reasearch on parents and make myself confortable that there are stable temperements all the way back. I know its not a guarentee, but is a HELL of a lot better than what you get when you rescue a puppy. they MAY be able to tell you something about the mother and that only if you are lucky. I have othing against rescue if i didnt have a daughter i would be a lot more proned to doing it, but for me right now, its not a option i choose to explore. As for me lining the pockets of a BYBer i think i went here before but i will clear it up. this dog wasnt supposed to be sold at all. He was going to be his dog, but a oppertunity presented itself for him to get a bloodline which he was interested in, to make room for the coming male he opted to sell this one. I just so happened to hit the website on the same day as his posting went up. He presented him to me like he was a foundation dog, and a great stud "If i was trying to get a kennel going", so i know that is what he was going to sell him as to anyone else. As many of oyu know I dont breed but love the breed itself. So in my mind it was a great set up, I get a dog that I really loved, and that one less male stud pumping out puppies. Sounded good at the time, who would have ever thought that this would literally make such waves? I mean i would have still got him, but iwould have been muh more prepared.

[Guest Anonymous]

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[kendalyn]

I think the point is that when you buy something (anything not just dogs) it's a way of voicing an opinion. By buying from a breeder who is most likely less than responsible you are saying it's ok for them to do what they are doing. Some people don't see it like that and just want a nice puppy that they fell in love with. Other people see it as a bigger picture and are unwilling to contribute to a growing problem not matter how cute the puppy is. It's simply a difference in point of view.

It's easy to say, "I don't buy from irresponsible breeders... except when one of the puppies is really really cute and I fall totally in love with him." How strong is that statement?

I say Think Globally Act Locally and avoid buying from unscrupulous breeders. Yes, I know that the puppies produced by irresponsible people are usually the ones that end up in shelters, but I'd rather get them there and not line the pockets of the bad breeders.

[Guest Anonymous]

I totally understand that.. but let not forget its not me tat running off touting tat all blue breeders are bad. I dont feel that way. I dont think that this particular breeder fits the BYB description. I just am reeling over the feed back taht people threw without even waiting to know, or asking. it was just BOOM.. badly bred, out of standard, BYB, testing, and all. I know the plight of the breed all to well but the way it hits me is this. Yes i could have saved one dog form the shelter and been a web hero, or i could do what i did, and save ho many ppies from beinf produced and put there? the shelter dogs are already altered they are no longer a threat to increase the pupulation, but a foundation stud... anyone know how many litters these dogs produce before they get retired? do they retire?
i got the best of both worlds, i got a puppy that i love, and stopped many a breeding from taking place. i mean the cold hard fact is this is a male an unlatered BIG BLUE MALE. he would have been used for breeding, no question. he was being sold as a stud. For me to step in and take him, crushed how many potential breedings?

[kendalyn]

I think there are a lot of red flags with this breeder.

First from the size of your dog I think this guy is breeding mainly for size and color. That's not a good thing. Is it possible some other larger breed was once mixed in?

Second, you said he was advertising him specifically as a stud dog even though no health tests at all were done and this is a puppy! Who knows what his health and temperment could be? Also, not good

Third, none of his other dogs were health tested.

What about this breeder makes you think he is responsible? I can't really think of anything...

[Guest Anonymous]

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[Guest Anonymous]

Well I have to say that for most intents and purposes you would be right. But you would be surprised the number of breeders that have been breeding most of thier lives that are downright insulted at the idea of testing dogs. I know a few breeders that dont believe in registries, if you ask for the pedigree of a pup they pull out a pen and paper and draw you one up. They ajust have an old school of thought on the dogs. righ or wrong, they have been in the business for quite some time and that does go for something. This partiualr breeder does register his dogs that how i was able to trace so far back on the pedigree and find so many dogs successfully.
The reason this pup was touted off as a stud dog was that he was the first pick of the litter, the one that displayed the most personality and size, and just all around the breeders first shoice. he was selling him and I found him not only did i get him but i talked him down to a great price on him, by saying that i did want him for breeding purposes. We all know he will be neutered next week but now that he is my dog he has no say so. based on size I dont know because the dogs look very bully when they fill out they are just very big. I will see if i cant find a picture to show you what i mean.

I do agree that he is freakishly big to be so young. I would think that he may be pure as he is from really large lines, but the odds are there could be some Neo in his past, thats the theory behind most big blues. As for color he actually has dogs of all colors. this particular breeding was a blue to blue and that is not good. but from what he tells me its not a normal occurance.

I spend a lot of time online looking at APBTs and I see a lot of dogs. It is a normal occurance for the largest dog to be sold for more money as a "foundation animal". meaning that you could breed him with a female of pretty much any size and still get big dogs from him. FOundation dogs are just that, studs, they are sold to be bred. They are bred and bred and then when they cant produce they are asold to the next kennel, they didnt want to take a chance when they were the pick puppy but now that they are older and proven they will buy them and breed them some more. and dont think its just BYBs that do this. There are a lot of kennels that operate the same way. because a dog has been tested doesnt mean its not being bred like crazy, bought and sold and that the dog cant live a horrible life. I know quite a few "resonsible" kennels that are a little shady in some of their workings. at least to the point where i would cut an eye at them.

but that just intensifies the argument that he would have been bred heavily. I dont want that, no one wants that. but i wasnt supposed to take him in either. I am totally at a loss. this same dog would be fine for me to have if i had waited until after they used him up and dumped him in a shelter, not only that but people would want to pin a medal on me for btaking him in, after he added unknown numbers of dogs to the dismal population situation. I guess i am jsut confused that this side of the argument is so not valid.

K- Dont worry he has an appointment on saturday, they are gone. *snip, snip* no puppies in my yard.

[Guest Anonymous]

Yes, K. I do belive that you are right. no more excuses. Lets move on...
And talk dogs!!!!!!