Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 [quote name='Hmmmm']Its Hmmmm Not Mmmmmm. I am not mad at people with friendly pits. All of my APBTs are friendly, to people. I dont get mad if someone has a pit they can have around other dogs, as I have had them as well. What I do get mad about are pit owners who deny the dog aggression engraved in the breed. I get mad at people who own pits and have no concern their dog might fight with someone elses dog. Who think there is no way their pit will fight with another dog. I dont think people with that mentality should own pits. You are contributing more to the negative side than you think. How many people do you think say their pits arent dog aggressive? Then a few months later their dog kills someone elses, and guess what? Another mark against the pit bull because of ignorant, irresponsible owners. So, you take your dog to the dogpark?!! Accident waiting for a place to happen. ANY PIT OWNER SHOULD THINK HIS DOG WILL FIIGHT!! There is more that goes into a pit bull than any other breed. You have to be much more careful and you should always hold the assumption that your dog will fight. He may not start it but he will finish it. And regardless of who started the fight it is the pit bull who will hold the burden. Try to educate youself about the breed. If your Pits cannot be around other dogs than it is very responsible of you not to take them anywhere. I have a dog with me everywhere I go. BUT, I keep them on a leash and carry a breaking stick. If a strange dog approaches I will pick my dog up. Even dogs that havent ever showed aggression to other dogs are treated as though they may fight at any time. I dont normally think people who allow pits around other dogs as bad owners but I do know they are way too uneducated to own pit bulls. If you havent noticed most of what you see in the media is from people like you. People who thinnk their dog wont fight... Hes just too sweet. No such thing when it comes to pits and other dogs. Do you know how to break up a fight if one does break out? One more thing... I really hope your dogs life is worth allowing him to be around other dogs with no precautions. Cause if something does happen, he will have to pay for it with his life. Then again, you probably dont care much since you went through so many dogs already and did nothing to stop it. U don't know me. U don't know how i take care of my dogs. U have probley the worst acting dog in history. If u can't trust your dog why have it. Maybe u don't need one. Maybe u are just a lonley person who don't have anything better to do then set here and lay judgement on someone's opion. Then again maybe u just don't like pits. I dont care if u have one eather. there is 1000 of pit in the world and not all of them are aggressive. a break stick that crule. do u know that breaks there jaws. they have trainning thangs other then that. maybe if u work with your dog more then maybe it could be good with other animals. i went through so many dogs. let me tell u something accdents do happen and we do learn from them. I cant controle what someone did to my pups. but i did move away. get through your head budy. i moved. i would of just acted like your post was not here but u know u are like all the other people in the world who run the other way when u say pit bull. still i dont care if u have one eather. u might have a bad breed. call your vet get some med for him or her.
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 While I'm with you 100% on what you say Hmmmm, I posted that up there about her pups to clear you up because you keep slamming it in her face about losing so many dogs... Let me re post some things for you to clear it up, once again... I'm not defending her or anything, I think if I knew I lived in a neighborhood that was bad, and 'pecially one that hated my breed I would go out there with them, I've seen what can happen to animals who are given antifreeze and it's horrible! My friend's neighbor posioned her cats that way :( But what I'm trying to clear up is you think she got one dog it was killed, went out and got another that was killed ect. ect. and that's not how it happened... Hmmmm napisał(a): Then again, you probably dont care much since you went through so many dogs already and did nothing to stop it. HazelNutMeg napisał(a):Acording to her posts way back in like... the third page... Julie didn't have (was it eight? or ten... I can't remember if it was eight in ten years or ten in eight years... ) all those dogs one after another die and get another one. There were a couple like that, but at one point she had a litter of a believe it was 8 puppies (and the mama too??) get posioned with anti freeze... that's how I interperted it anyway, correct me if I'm wrong. JULIE napisał(a):it was a litter of 8 pups 6 weeks old. I let the mom and her pups out for some fresh air. i went in the house for 5min came back the pups where fine then. Later that night they started acting like they where drunk, took them to my vet he gave them the blood test came back with atifrezze in there system. The only thing i can do then was put them down. I don't live out there anymore. did not get another dog for 5 yrs . thats when i got little man AMERICAN BULLDOG. 3 YRS later i got Juvie. We bought a house when littleman was a 1yr old. Nothing like that has happened here. I have had Juvie and Littleman for 3yrs here in this house. Just have to watch walking them. Julie/guest? - it isn't just a matter of opinion. I know Hmmmm and everyone else arguing with you on this bored and it is NOT a matter of opinion!! If that was the case people would be more respectful of what your saying! We are not arguing whether the Pit Bull looks good in a tutu or not, we are arguing something that deals with a matter of LIFE OR DEATH! Not only just for the sake of your dog's life and any other dog you incounter, but for the whole breed itself! EVERY SINGLE Pit Bull attack is hurting the breed, and it's owners like YOU who won't even open your eyes and try to help the breed by at least knowing and understanding their past and what their capable of, it's people like YOU who are hurting the breed just as bad as those thugs on the street with the 'tuffest dog'! If people keep turning a blind eye to what this dog is capable of we're not going to have this breed anymore in a a very short time! Stop blocking the truth just because it's something you don't want to hear! I've been trying to stay level headed while reading this, but your begining to get on my nerves! At least the thugs with these dogs know what their capable of! You on the other hand, a good dog owner in the lines of you don't fight your dog, provide it with a good home and food, and don't beat your dog, YOU don't even understand your dog's breed and what it's all about! GO PICK UP A BOOK or even maybe TWO! I don't even own one of these dogs but just from being here at Dogo have goten interested in them (the AmStaff more specificly) and have started doing my research. I don't even own one of these dogs but I still know all the percausions you should take, yet you who have owned a few now and currently own one don't! To me that's a bit odd, and extremely wrong!
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 Wow, there were like two posts while I posted my last post, that won't happen now because this one will be quick. Julie - I give up. I'm not sure about the others on here, but I give up. I REALLY hope your dog's behavior doesn't "turn around and bite you in the ass" because you will be hurting such a wonderful breed that you I am begining to believe, might not even desereve to own if you don't open your mind a little! Hmmm does NOT hate the breed! I think if he hated the breed he wouldn't own them and not be sitting here today trying to drill into your head that you are ignoring the truth and what your dog is capable of :roll: I'm out now, I may read along still but I probably won't post because it's a waste of my time.
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 [quote name='HazelNutMeg']Wow, there were like two posts while I posted my last post, that won't happen now because this one will be quick. Julie - I give up. I'm not sure about the others on here, but I give up. I REALLY hope your dog's behavior doesn't "turn around and bite you in the a**" because you will be hurting such a wonderful breed that you I am begining to believe, might not even desereve to own if you don't open your mind a little! Hmmm does NOT hate the breed! I think if he hated the breed he wouldn't own them and not be sitting here today trying to drill into your head that you are ignoring the truth and what your dog is capable of :roll: I'm out now, I may read along still but I probably won't post because it's a waste of my time. i am going to clear this up for u. I do know what they where bred for i do know what they can do. I don't put my dog in an unsafe place. My dog and 3 of my friends have pits they are males and age range 3-10 yrs and they get along with other animals to. Not all pits attact other dogs. I do know they can be aggressive dogh i have 1 and american bull dog. please read other post i put in here about how i walk him and interactions with other dogs.
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 [quote name='Anonymous'][quote name='HazelNutMeg']Wow, there were like two posts while I posted my last post, that won't happen now because this one will be quick. Julie - I give up. I'm not sure about the others on here, but I give up. I REALLY hope your dog's behavior doesn't "turn around and bite you in the a**" because you will be hurting such a wonderful breed that you I am begining to believe, might not even desereve to own if you don't open your mind a little! Hmmm does NOT hate the breed! I think if he hated the breed he wouldn't own them and not be sitting here today trying to drill into your head that you are ignoring the truth and what your dog is capable of :roll: I'm out now, I may read along still but I probably won't post because it's a waste of my time. i am going to clear this up for u. I do know what they where bred for i do know what they can do. I don't put my dog in an unsafe place. My dog and 3 of my friends have pits they are males and age range 3-10 yrs and they get along with other animals to. Not all pits attact other dogs. I do know they can be aggressive dogh i have 1 and american bull dog. please read other post i put in here about how i walk him and interactions with other dogs. just off the subject. your cats are very pritty.
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 (here I go posting when I said I wouldn't :lol: :roll: ) If you take all the percausions and interact with other dogs with your puppers on lead ect. ect. then what are we arguing about? Not ALL pits will attack yes, I agree with you there, but to think yours never will is the problem. He might not! And that's wonderful! But you can't put all your money on him not getting in a fight because when it comes to something like your dog's life and the reputation of a whole breed, you can't gamble with that, you have to know what your doing... P.S. Thanks, my kitties rule the house! :lol: (as much as Coal wished they didn't :wink: )
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 HazelNutMeg napisał(a):(here I go posting when I said I wouldn't :lol: :roll: ) If you take all the percausions and interact with other dogs with your puppers on lead ect. ect. then what are we arguing about? Not ALL pits will attack yes, I agree with you there, but to think yours never will is the problem. He might not! And that's wonderful! But you can't put all your money on him not getting in a fight because when it comes to something like your dog's life and the reputation of a whole breed, you can't gamble with that, you have to know what your doing... P.S. Thanks, my kitties rule the house! :lol: (as much as Coal wished they didn't :wink: ) I do know what i am doing with him. And i don't gamble i will loose. i know they where first breed for the army to attack the enamy. then they turned on the army. I am and i do watch him like a halk. he realy don't get to much of notheing anymore mostly he is in the house with me in his kinnel. Maybe he will fight later. Maybe someones dog might hurt him. i don't know. but the thought is alway there. i am just trying to tell people that they can be around other dogs. and get along.i agree never leave them alone with another animal. I don't. we do have carefull outings with him. if i see him start to act funny i pick him up and put him in the car. But he has not yet.. express the word. i got mad at hmmm for throughing up my pups in my face. it do's hurt and it still hurts. they where betufulle and very good pups. i am not mad at u. i like what u have wrote. i do take in everything to heart what everone has said. i even bought him a shock coller. for tranning in case if it should happen. i dont like the collers at all and don't belive in them. but if he sould ever try to pick a fight or worse get into one i hit a button and he backs off. i know this post so fare is long sorry
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 Well its good to see that you are aware of the potential now. I dont think Hmmmm said anything that we ALL were not thinking. YOu have to admit that may dogs in so short a time is VERY suspicious. The entire thread was about your dog being so good and all. but now you are admitting to taking precautions. I dont think you should be using an e-collar without professional help, get with a trainer first. as good as those collars can be they can really ruina dog if you dont use them just right.... and its very easy to use them wrong. I would say instead get a prong collar and a leather lead for your training. But one thing that you should know is that once your dog does turn on, you cant turn it off.. even with training. YOu can make him sit and be pleasant but he may never be able to run around off lead with dogs again. Its not really a bad thing, but its something you should know. Daz can only be off-lead with Drey and Deja... he will fight with other dogs(and hes not even a pit bull). Often times you will find that a dog gets along good with dogs it knows but doesnt really surface aggression until its with strange dogs, (like at the dog park, or out on a walk) the only way that you can control your dog when that aggression kicks in is to have a lead. if the dog is far enough away you may(unlikely) be able to get its atention long enough to snap the lead on but why take that risk. when my dogs are not in the house or in the back yard they are on a leash, even if i am just letting them drag it around its always on so i have quick access to a way to correct them or grab them if something does happen. and GET A BREAKING STICK... learn how to use it, I still think they should be giving these things away free with every puppy from the breder and with every rescue from the shelter. they are cheap and a mandatory item for a pit bull owner, you can use it with most any dog i would think, but the bully breeds especially.
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 ROTT'N'PIT napisał(a):Well its good to see that you are aware of the potential now. I dont think Hmmmm said anything that we ALL were not thinking. YOu have to admit that may dogs in so short a time is VERY suspicious. The entire thread was about your dog being so good and all. but now you are admitting to taking precautions. I dont think you should be using an e-collar without professional help, get with a trainer first. as good as those collars can be they can really ruina dog if you dont use them just right.... and its very easy to use them wrong. I would say instead get a prong collar and a leather lead for your training. But one thing that you should know is that once your dog does turn on, you cant turn it off.. even with training. YOu can make him sit and be pleasant but he may never be able to run around off lead with dogs again. Its not really a bad thing, but its something you should know. Daz can only be off-lead with Drey and Deja... he will fight with other dogs(and hes not even a pit bull). Often times you will find that a dog gets along good with dogs it knows but doesnt really surface aggression until its with strange dogs, (like at the dog park, or out on a walk) the only way that you can control your dog when that aggression kicks in is to have a lead. if the dog is far enough away you may(unlikely) be able to get its atention long enough to snap the lead on but why take that risk. when my dogs are not in the house or in the back yard they are on a leash, even if i am just letting them drag it around its always on so i have quick access to a way to correct them or grab them if something does happen. and GET A BREAKING STICK... learn how to use it, I still think they should be giving these things away free with every puppy from the breder and with every rescue from the shelter. they are cheap and a mandatory item for a pit bull owner, you can use it with most any dog i would think, but the bully breeds especially. So are u saying that the e coller will not work? confused the lady who sold it to me said it will keep them from fighting. I got riped off then. ya i agree my dogs stay on leades. I dont walk them much anymore scece i hurt my back. But i still try to walk him everyday. i hurd that the bite stick brakes there jaws is this true? couse i heard that pit bulls dont lock there jaw. its there muscels that hold the bite. I gess i will just try to walk him in my yard. I don't know. Cant do much right now couse of my back. Would love to take him fishing when it get worm outside. Pits are good swimmers i heard on animal planit. But what if the dog never swam before. but i will just keep him on the rocks with me. Anyone know any good toy for a pit. ropes i go through 2 every 5 months tyered of strings. need some ideas couse he loves to play with his rope. But i dont like the strings messy.
drjeffrock Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 Guest, that is interesting re: pits and swimming. I was always under the impression that they were not good swimmers due to them being little balls of muscle. I heard that they tire out quickly due to their muscle mass. Anyone else please feel free to chime in on this topic.
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 No they do not break the dogs jaws, I dont think that you could use it in a way to do that. its a little wedge shaped stick that you stick in the dogs mouth when it bites down on something and wont let go. you push it into the rear of th mouth between the teeth and twist it, its is very imprtant that you have aholdof your dog and pull them away as soon as you open their moth becaue they will try to get another hold. It doesnt hurt them or their teeth. i have usedmine on drey when he is locked on a tug just to make sure i could do it. I have never had to use it due to a fight though *knocks on wood*. and I am not saying the e-collar wont work. but there is certain way that you have to use it because if your dog is fighting and you hit that button he is going to attribute the pain to the other dog and attack harder. so No I do not think that is the best way to do it. A good solid OB reoutine will get you much further teach him sit come, down, off, heel. I find that if your dog knows the command off that its a lot easier to stop the from doing things. with Daz as soon as he sees another dog and get rigid i will give him a firm "off" he looks away and keeps moving. its basically a "Hey, im watching you and i said NO" command. The prong collar will give you a stronger correctiong without actaully having to corr3ect hard excellent idea with back trouble, and they are about 1/15th the cost of an e-collar.
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 ROTT'N'PIT napisał(a):No they do not break the dogs jaws, I dont think that you could use it in a way to do that. its a little wedge shaped stick that you stick in the dogs mouth when it bites down on something and wont let go. you push it into the rear of th mouth between the teeth and twist it, its is very imprtant that you have aholdof your dog and pull them away as soon as you open their moth becaue they will try to get another hold. It doesnt hurt them or their teeth. i have usedmine on drey when he is locked on a tug just to make sure i could do it. I have never had to use it due to a fight though *knocks on wood*. and I am not saying the e-collar wont work. but there is certain way that you have to use it because if your dog is fighting and you hit that button he is going to attribute the pain to the other dog and attack harder. so No I do not think that is the best way to do it. A good solid OB reoutine will get you much further teach him sit come, down, off, heel. I find that if your dog knows the command off that its a lot easier to stop the from doing things. with Daz as soon as he sees another dog and get rigid i will give him a firm "off" he looks away and keeps moving. its basically a "Hey, im watching you and i said NO" command. The prong collar will give you a stronger correctiong without actaully having to corr3ect hard excellent idea with back trouble, and they are about 1/15th the cost of an e-collar. thanks for clearing that up for me about the bite stick.
mydogroxy Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 i know they where first breed for the army to attack the enamy. then they turned on the army. um...what? please, please elaborate on this little gem because i'm not sure what you're saying. are you still talking about pit bulls?
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 [quote name='mydogroxy']i know they where first breed for the army to attack the enamy. then they turned on the army. um...what? please, please elaborate on this little gem because i'm not sure what you're saying. are you still talking about pit bulls? this should some it up. History The origin of the APBT (American pit Bull Terrier) is unknown.Some people have traced their roots back one hundred and fifty years ago in england. These were very popular dogs, they were used to herd up stray cattle and also for guard dogs. A major difference between pits now and then is their weight. Between periods of 1900 and 1975 they did no weigh that much. Most weighed at 50 pounds. Another reason they were so popular was because of their strength. People would breed them and then fight them in dog fights. This was outlawed in 1835 in England. The immediate ancestors of the APBT were the English and Irish pit fighting dogs. They were imported in the mid-19th century. Once in America these pits were breed to become larger in size and weight. The average weight for these dogs was about 30 pounds, but as their popularity grew in America breeders had dogs reaching an average of 50pounds. . Common Names Through out the century these dogs had a variety of names. "Pit Terriers," "Pit Bull Terriers","Half and Halfs", "Stanffordshire Fighting Dogs", "Yankee Terriers", and "Rebel Terrriers". Socialization Pit Bulls are generally inclined to be extremely friendly and trusting around people. This is usually true even with the dogs that have not been properly socialized around people. With this breed of dog human agressiveness is actually rare. It is a lot more common for Pit Bulls to be agressive towards other dogs. Owners should palce thier Pit Bull around other dogs at an early age for it to learn good social behavior. If owners do this they should palce their pet around lager dogs so they can both play roughly and not feel that they are threatened. The crucial time period for socializing a Pit Bull puppy is between 8 and 16 weeks. If an owner waits intill the dog is six months old, it will be to late to exposer her to other dogs. The owner will not be able to let the dog off a leash safely in public places. Health On the whole, the Pit Bull are a very healthy, robust breed. They uauslly do well at the vets because they are not threatened too easily and have a high threshold for pain. The easiest breeds for veternians to work with are the Labrador Retreiver and the Pit Bull. The only health problem Pits face is demotetic mange. This can be treated with baths and topical ointment. As far as life span, 12 to 13 years is about average for these dogs, although a 15 to 16 year old Pit is not unheard of. The Reality Pit Bulls in Dog Fighting Since the Pit Bull is such a strong breed of dog it often miss used by owners in dog fights. Dog fighters will raise these dogs from pups just to fight them. Before the fight They will feed these animals hot peppers or gunpowder and beat them to get them mad. After this they will throw a piece of meat in between the two dogs or kick and slam the dogs togeather. This will usually get the fight started. After the fight is over money exchanges hands and the dog that lost is dead if lucky. If not most owners will just leave it their to suffer because they are mad that it lost. The problem that police face with dog fighting is that it is hard to prove. Dog's cant testify, and police officers do not put a high priority on trying to solve them with all the other human crime going on. Training Like socialization, basic obedience should begin at an early age. With a breed of dog as powerful as the Pit Bull it is important that the owner has its Pit under complete voice control. Pit Bulls are hierarchical pack animals. Their well-being depends on knowing their exact status in the pack. This pack mentality is the instinct that made canines domesticable; a dog reguards its human family as the pack a looks at its masters as the pack leaders. A dog that is not trained and is allowed to do anything that it pleases will become anxious and confused. This absoulute freedom will result in uncertainty as who is really the pack leader and this produces insecurity in the Pit. Exercise Pit Bulls need an will enjoy lots of hard exercise. IF you dont have the time to play and give your Pit a work out you should get a different type of dog. You dont need to have a big back yard to give your Pita hard work out. A popular in door device that many Pit Bull owners use is a tread mill. You can work your dog up to 30 to 45 minutes daily. Another device an owner could use is a spring pole. This is just a simple tug-of-war machine that dogs will play with for hours. When playing with your puppy make sure not to overexert the pup while because its bines are still growning. Puppies should be allowed to establish their own comfortable level of exercise. Serious use of a treadmill should begin at a year and a half or older. Temperament Testing A obedience test at a dog school is a temperament test. These is a great test for Pit Bulls. During this test a collar or a choker chain is worn by the dog and is handled by the owner. Their is a line of dogs with their owners. The tester will walk through the line before testing the dogs. Stranger Approaches and Speaks :A stranger walks up to the handler and wishes him good luck. Stranger approaches to Speak and Touch the Dog :Stranger talks to and touches the dog, the dog should accept this with no problems. Hidden and Unfamiliar Noise : Dog and handler are placed behind a blind, nails are then shaken in a can. The dog should be alarmed but not show signs of fear. Walk on Unfamiliar Surface with Handler :Dog and handler walk across glass covered with a tarp. Dog should be sure footed and not want to jump off. Life-threatening Situatuin : Handler holds leash with both hands as a stranger acts as if he is going to do harm to the owner. The dog should stand firm and portect him. How a Pit Bulls Body is Built NECK :Heavy, slightly arched, tapering form the shoulders to back skull. No losseness of skin. Medium length. BACK :Fairly short, slight sloping from withers to rump with gentel slope to base of tail.) COAT :Short, close, stiff to touch, and glossy. SHOULDERS :Strong and muscular with blades wide and sloping. TAIL :Short in comparison to size, lowset, tapering to a fine point; not curled or held over back. LEGS :Should be strait, large round bones, pastern upright. No resemblance of bend in front. SIZE :Hight and weight should be in proportion. A hight of about 18 to 19 inches at the shoulders for the male and 17 to 18 inches for the female to be considered preferable. FAULTS :Faults to be penalized would be a Dudley nose, light or pink eyes, tail to long or badly carried, under shot or overshot mouths.
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 The Reality Pit Bulls in Dog Fighting Since the Pit Bull is such a strong breed of dog it often miss used by owners in dog fights. Dog fighters will raise these dogs from pups just to fight them. Before the fight They will feed these animals hot peppers or gunpowder and beat them to get them mad. After this they will throw a piece of meat in between the two dogs or kick and slam the dogs togeather. This will usually get the fight started. After the fight is over money exchanges hands and the dog that lost is dead if lucky. If not most owners will just leave it their to suffer because they are mad that it lost. The problem that police face with dog fighting is that it is hard to prove. Dog's cant testify, and police officers do not put a high priority on trying to solve them with all the other human crime going on These are your street fighting thugs, and do you know how they learn to do this to dogs? From articles and news reports just like this one. Life-threatening Situatuin : Handler holds leash with both hands as a stranger acts as if he is going to do harm to the owner. The dog should stand firm and portect him. Why would anyone do that!!!! This article is far to vauge and full of urban myths to be taken seriously, it horrible. you want a good one go to PBRC. they have some of th best bully info.
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 The Reality Pit Bulls in Dog Fighting Since the Pit Bull is such a strong breed of dog it often miss used by owners in dog fights. Dog fighters will raise these dogs from pups just to fight them. Before the fight They will feed these animals hot peppers or gunpowder and beat them to get them mad. After this they will throw a piece of meat in between the two dogs or kick and slam the dogs togeather. This will usually get the fight started. After the fight is over money exchanges hands and the dog that lost is dead if lucky. If not most owners will just leave it their to suffer because they are mad that it lost. The problem that police face with dog fighting is that it is hard to prove. Dog's cant testify, and police officers do not put a high priority on trying to solve them with all the other human crime going on These are your street fighting thugs, and do you know how they learn to do this to dogs? From articles and news reports just like this one. Life-threatening Situatuin : Handler holds leash with both hands as a stranger acts as if he is going to do harm to the owner. The dog should stand firm and portect him. Why would anyone do that!!!! This article is far to vauge and full of urban myths to be taken seriously, its horrible. you want a good one go to PBRC. they have some of th best bully info.
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 No this is stuff i found off the internet. [/url]http://schoolweb.missouri.edu/ashland.k12.mo.us/charlie/pitbulls.htm
mydogroxy Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 no it does not sum it up. you just contradicted yourself. were pit bulls originally bred for the army (like you first said) or is their origin unknown? or were they used as guard dogs? if you are serious about owning these dogs and want to engage in intelligent and informed conversation concerning them, please pick up a book and do some reading.
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 HERE READ THIS: http://www.pbrc.net/breedinfo.html it is a LOT more accurate and reliable information
Guest Mutts4Me Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 [quote name='JULIE']No this is stuff i found off the internet. http://schoolweb.missouri.edu/ashland.k12.mo.us/charlie/pitbulls.htm First off, he knows it's an article you found online. He's telling you that it's not the most accurate article, and suggesting another site http://www.pbrc.org for better information. Secondly, that "article" looks to be a high school student's report on Pit Bulls. It's a great report for a high school student, and it's nice that the kid is so interested in the breed at a young age. But that doesn't mean it's the best source for information :)
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 i know they where first breed for the army to attack the enamy. then they turned on the army. :WTF: *mumbling under my breath* You contradict yourself every time your fingers hit the keyboard. Whatever. Im done with this one. :roll:
courtnek Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 Julie, just a thought... Rott and Hmmm are both right in their concern that you watch your dog closely for the signs that a fight might break out, and always have control....this is my experience with a neighbor's pit. Their yard is attached to ours with a common chain link fence in between. My one girl is a Lab mix with an ATTITUDE... I met this Pit, and they also had another dog, a Border Collie. The two of them were perfectly content together, the BC was subservient to the Pit and the Pit was happy with that. Enter Freebee, dog with ATTITUDE....she wont tolerate any other dog trying to be top dog around her. And yes, she will fight if another dog tries to tell her what to do. or does not show submission to her. This is not a normal lab trait, it's just Freebee. She's a mix. I was standing about 4 feet away, talking to the neighbor, when I heard Freebee growl. I looked over, she was staring at the Pit hackles up, teeth bared and growling....I took two steps towards her, yelling "Freebee, CHILL" the Pit was standing there stiff, but wagging her tail...this was before I knew that Pits wil wag their tails even when poised to fight. Suddenly, both dogs ATTACKED the fence.....and wouldnt quit. I grabbed Freebee and hauled her away, the neighbor grabbed the Pit and held her by the collar. NEITHER backed down...they growled and snarled at each other even being held and seperated by a fence...We both put our dogs inside. Later investigation showed that the steel chain link fence had been damaged by their teeth. the loops were warped and bent. Had that been a fight without a fence, Freebee would have lost, because she would not have given up. Neither would the Pit. Now, I understand my dogs. I will never let Freebee run loose in a dog park. or around other dogs. The point to this story is that SOME PEOPLE dont know their dogs as well as we do, or think they have the right to let their dogs run even though they are dangerous. I think this is what people are trying to tell you....you may be a good dog owner, but there are too many people out there who AREN'T...and unfortunately, if a fight occurs, YOUR dog will be the one that gets PTS...whether he started it or not is irrelevant. Hope that helps some.
Lucky Chaos Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 :o I've stayed out of this and left it to the "experts" but your really gonna get it now.
Guest Anonymous Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 Lucky Chaos napisał(a)::o I've stayed out of this and left it to the "experts" but your really gonna get it now.U SCARE ME. PLEASE DON'T OH DON'T BITE @@@. STAY OUT OF IT.
courtnek Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 that was uncalled for. We were only trying to help you understand. Admin's, please lock this thread. This person is apparently not willing to hear any other opinion then her own.
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