Daisysmom Posted October 16, 2003 Posted October 16, 2003 We had Jake fixed a few days ago, and he is still acting very dominate and rough. I called the vet and they said it takes 3 months for the testosterone to leave his system. Does this sound right? And, will he calm down? Has anyone experienced this before with their male dog? He is really becoming a handful..... always barking at me and just more dominate than the girls. You all know, he is my first male, and I'm not too experienced here!!!! Quote
3ofakind Posted October 16, 2003 Posted October 16, 2003 Yes it is true except I had been told 4-6 months. Whether or not it will calm him down depends on how old he is and how long he was displaying the behaviors. Quote
Black GSD Posted October 16, 2003 Posted October 16, 2003 Unfortunately neutering is NOT the "quick fix" that most people are led to believe. Like the others have said, it can take up to 6 months for the hormonal issure to subside. However there is the chance that his issues are not related to hormones at all and there is the possibility that you will never see the kind of change you are hoping to. I have seen a LOT of male dogs they never calmed down. It is not the hormones it is in their genes. How old is Jake? Quote
Daisysmom Posted October 16, 2003 Author Posted October 16, 2003 Well, that is promising any way. Jake is 5 months, and has always been a very sweet and calm dog until pretty recently. So, I am hopeful that the old Jake will return in a few months!! Thanks! Quote
Daisysmom Posted October 16, 2003 Author Posted October 16, 2003 I am firm with him, but it is constant.... :-? Poor Chelsea gets the brunt of it. When we go to the lake for a swim, he won't leave her alone.... he is constantly biting at her neck and collar while she is swimming. He is going to drown her!!!! Thanks for the advice! Haven't been around much with my class and all. (Humping isn't a problem, it's just the aggression) Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted October 16, 2003 Posted October 16, 2003 Michele napisał(a):my vet told me the same thing when I had JC snipped......but my dog is a hornball..he still tries humping my leg.....hehe Leg humping isn't a "hornball" type behaviour :D ...it's a show or an attempt at dominance. It's something that should be corrected...plus it's embarassing! :oops: I should have added this before...it's not always a show of dominance! It is done in play as well. Quote
3ofakind Posted October 16, 2003 Posted October 16, 2003 Humping is not always dominance!!!! When dogs are playing and having fun, they release adrenaline and endorphines just like us. Humping can be an involuntary reaction to a stimulus. The dogs often dont even understand what or why they are doing it. It isn't embarressing to them and we should respect that. It is part of canine communication. I wouldn't worry about it, you can discourage it but dont get too concerned with it. Daisysmom - I honestly think it sounds like puppy behavior. If he isn't seriously out to do harm, then it is just play. That is how pups play. If Chelsea wanted him to stop she would put him in his place. I dont think you have anything to worry about. He is a puppy and they have nothing but play on the brain. Quote
Black GSD Posted October 16, 2003 Posted October 16, 2003 3ofakind napisał(a): Daisysmom - I honestly think it sounds like puppy behavior. If he isn't seriously out to do harm, then it is just play. That is how pups play. If Chelsea wanted him to stop she would put him in his place. I dont think you have anything to worry about. He is a puppy and they have nothing but play on the brain. I agree with this to a point. If he is truely THAT obnoxious, Chelsea may very well NOT be able to "put him in his place" without serious damage to Jake or herself. There ARE some puppies that will NOT just back off because an adult dog "tells them to". (I have one.) And if I had left it up to the adult dogs to discipline the pup, I would have ended up with a dead pup. IMO, in these cases it is up to YOU to stop the bratty behaviour. Quote
Daisysmom Posted October 17, 2003 Author Posted October 17, 2003 I am trying to stop it, and I agree.... Chelsea is a timid dog, and a smaller breed mix, she is already outweighed by Jake, and especially when they are swimming has a hard time keeping him off her neck!! Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted October 18, 2003 Posted October 18, 2003 I hope things calm down soon :-? He must be so big now! If you haven't seen under Pictures, I have demanded some new pics of him :lol: :wink: Coal was really pushy too, he still is actually, but things are calming down a LOT. Getting him fixed has helped, as well as a firm hand, he's finally learning that I'm boss, and he doesn't always get what he wants! It's like heaven! Although he still steps out of line now, but it's not a constant thing, is a much better enviroment to live in, and he gets more of what he wants too! Isn't it funny how that works out? :lol: :wink: Quote
courtnek Posted October 18, 2003 Posted October 18, 2003 LOL@ Shara!!! you just proved the point of all training efforts!! Although he still steps out of line now, but it's not a constant thing, is a much better enviroment to live in, and he gets more of what he wants too! Isn't it funny how that works out? It works out that way because YOU make the rules and expect them to be obeyed. They obey, with a firm hand (labs are notorious about "pushing all your buttons") because you DONT let those buttons get pushed! Good job!! :D :D Quote
Aroura Posted October 18, 2003 Posted October 18, 2003 I hope Jake settles down Daisysmom, at least you have had him desexed at a young age so his behavior hasn't yet turned into habit. I'm also new to owning a male dog, they are so different aren't they?! Montie is a smart boy, very loyal and obedient, but like all intact males he's always after one thing! :lol: My question is, when I get him desexed can I expect him to be more focused on me? At the moment he's a terror at obedience, he wont even take notice of me if there's a female around and when I let him off the lead he's off looking for them! So does desexing take away their need to roam? The breeder crossed off the desexing bit on the contract, so long as I wouldn't let him breed (the no breeding bit is still on there). She told me about the new research that has been done showing cancers related to desexing males, equally likely as testical cancer in non desexed dogs. So aside from the chances of cancer, I've been trying to weigh up the pros and cons of desexing... any one be able to help me? Quote
courtnek Posted October 18, 2003 Posted October 18, 2003 Neutering a male cust down on a number of issues, especially the testicular cancer chances. It lessens their desire to roam (which you've alrready seen). An intact male can smell a bitch in heat from very far away, and will escape if possible to mate. It cuts down on their aggressiveness, and makes them easier to train. It cuts down on the possibility of dominance issues, especially with a more dominant breed of dog, like GSD's and Rotties.... Now you'll notice I said "cuts down"....those issues will still arise unless they are trained properly, of course. But neutering, especially since you cant breed him anway per your contract, is in his (and your) best interests. :D Quote
Daisysmom Posted October 18, 2003 Author Posted October 18, 2003 Point taken... I'll get the camera out!! I swear he is calming down. He actually cuddles with me again. Slowly I hope to get him back! Quote
Aroura Posted October 19, 2003 Posted October 19, 2003 Well in that case I'll take him in on Monday to make an appointment!!! :wink: He needs to see the vet anyway to get some frontline and so I can get him on their data base, so that'll just give me another reason to go 8) Quote
Daisysmom Posted October 24, 2003 Author Posted October 24, 2003 Stitches came out today, a day late, but he is fine and looks pretty good. Poor Patty had to take care of all three while we were away. I swear he grew a foot!! He is as tall as Daisy now!! :o Quote
Aroura Posted October 25, 2003 Posted October 25, 2003 Don't they just shoot up some times? I'm glad to hear he's well :wink: Quote
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