Guest Anonymous Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 Tomorrow, me and my Golden Retriever will go to a very important Dog Show Competition. She is very beautiful, but because she is nine months old, she lost an important quantity of her coat (to adult coat). Because in Romania there are not so many hair volume products, I was wandering if I can use a hair volume product for women (just tomorrow, because after that we will buy a special dog hair volume product from Nederland). Regards, Theonna Quote
Sanvean Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 I believe that people hair products generally work fine on dogs. Quote
Aonir Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 Oh no no no! People hair products don't have what the dog needs. I can't explain it, but it's a bad idea.. Quote
Sanvean Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 Really? Several Maltese breeders I know of use human hair products on their dogs (gel to keep topknots in place, conditioner to smooth out hair, etc). Of course, Maltese have hair rather than fur. Quote
atghylin Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 Bad idea! I was once baddly advized to use baby shampoo on Felix. (I'm getting rather tired of my sister's advice.) It dried is skin out so bad he dandriff. Everytime I brushed him his beautiful black coat turned white from the dandriff. I ended up buying Veterinary Formula Sensitive Skin Treatment and Shampoo* to correct it. Try finding a hair and coat product that'f formulated for dogs. Amanda Quote
imported_Cassie Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 What a shame, one of my female Newf's was dumped at a show a couple of weekends ago due to blowing most of her coat....my male took best in show though... I have never used a hair volumizing conditioner... will be interested in the advice and suggestions you receive. I usually give a really good bath with a good shampoo & conditioner...my favorite is A-1 systems...and try not to blow too much of the coat out with the h/v dryer. I also scissor the Newf's before going to a show...usually you can tidy a raggidy coat up, but, you certainly cannot get that required fur back in the pants if they have lost it...Golden's have their feet and skirt scissored and their tail...could you possibly even it out? As for human shampoo's we do not use human shampoo at the grooming clinic I work for nor do my dogs get any human shampoo...the main reason is its too much work trying to rinse human shampoo out of a big hairy dog...if you dont get all the shampoo rinsed out then you get dry flaky skin and your dog can get hot spots. I do have a recipe which I use at times for the first shampoo on dogs which are dirty...this recipe works great and rinses out well....I have been using it for years.... 1/3 cup Glycerin 1 cup Palmolive dish soap 1 cup White Vinegar 1 quart of water mix in a liter bottle or an old large shampoo bottle. be sure to shake it up to mix in the glycerin. Quote
imported_Cassie Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 I just wanted to add that alot of people who show their dogs use people shampoo...I have seen them use pantene, alberto, Joico etc...it does not seem to bother there dogs at all...I have a freind who shows her 3 Collies (rough) and she uses Alberto shampoo and they have lovely coats...but, my biggest problem is the rinsing...I just don't find it rinses as quickly as a good quality dog shampoo...my Newf's have alot of coat and when you have to groom 4 of them in one day its just not worth it to me.... At the Grooming shop the reason we do not use human shampoo is the time we save rinsing...and we make up profiles for each of the dogs in for a groom the profile is like a little report card and tells what clip was given by which blade and how good their dog was etc etc...on it we list the shampoo and conditioner....Customer's would not be impressed if they saw human shampoo's on their profiles... Quote
courtnek Posted August 30, 2003 Posted August 30, 2003 OK, not to be gross, but people shampoos have formeldahyde in them.. the same stuff they use to embalm people..... I would suggest a good quality dog shampoo. If your dog will tolerate it, after she is wahsed, blow dry her. The blow drying will make her fur seem "bigger", just like it does on people. You can also, if she will tolerate it, "tease" her fur in position. If you're not familair with teasing, it is back brushing of the fur with short, sharp strokes. it causes the hair to clump up in pockets, and then you can manipulate it with your hands, to make it look the way you want. Some dogs do OK with baby shampoo, but others dont do well at all. It depends on the dog. Teasing has no chemicals involved, and it will hold for quite a while once "patted" into place. You should do it just prior to show time. Good luck!!! :D Quote
imported_Cassie Posted August 30, 2003 Posted August 30, 2003 How did you make out at the show???? while I was at work today at the grooming facility I asked my boss about this...she said alot of breeders will put a mousse (foam) on the dogs coat to add volume...she will get the name of the product and I will post it for you...we were so busy today we did not have time....alot of the Newfoundland dog breeders will use a foam to add volume before a show with a dog which has blown its coat...its' especially great as with show dogs they have to have a great looking coat...but, the coat also has to lay flat and straight... Let us know how you made out and I will also post the name of the product used by local breeders....I have find with my bitch she loses her coat after her heat cycle. Quote
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