Guest Anonymous Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 Okay for those of you who know I apologize in advance for this: The AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER is a amazing dog, in the world of the canine They are pound for pound the strongest. they are the most determined, they are the most fearless, and they are the most loving (okay i admit I am a little biased on the last one) But what they are not is a dangerous killer dog. The ATTS tests hundred of thousands of dogs and the APBT consistanly tests in the highest percentile. The FACTS are here : http://www.atts.org/testdesc.html first take a look at the test as and what exactly they do its the link at the top TT test description; very good test then look at the breed statistics Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 Good information RnP and I think you know we all agree with you. Just to poke at you I have to point out that while the APBT did get an 82.3, the JRT's were right behind with an 82. And I must say with a much smaller test population therefore making the high score that more difficult to achieve. I think the facts are, there are A LOT of good dogs, especially the APBT!! Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 Also, an APBT holds the national title for obedience. A little bitch named Maddy. She has the highest score ever in the history of all National Association of Protection Dogs (NAPD) competitions! Her score is 97.666. :D Quote
Malamum Posted August 9, 2003 Posted August 9, 2003 Excellent site R&P and I agree with Mary's Mama I think the facts are, there are A LOT of good dogs, especially the APBT!! Though the percentages are a little misleading. I think it would be better if the same number of each breed were tested. There were a couple of breeds that got 100% because only 1 dog was tested and it passed. It would have been a totally opposite result (0%) if it had failed, or if 2 dogs were tested and one passed and one failed then it would have been 50%........... thats a big range in the percentages. Quote
courtnek Posted August 9, 2003 Posted August 9, 2003 I'M NOT HAPPY... they didnt have either Labs or Goldens in this test.... are they assuming that Labs and Goldens are SOOOOO docile they dont need the test????? MY DOG IS A LAB AND IS NOT DOCILE!!! She does NOT like strangers... She does NOT like small children.... She does NOT like a number of other dogs... why wasnt this breed tested? Not all LABS are "wonderful family dogs" "good with children" "likes everybody".... The "Breed Standards" are causing more harm then good... Rott, you KNOW how I feel about this....Dogs are ANIMALS!!! They dont ALL fit the Breed Standard specifics... :evil: Quote
gooeydog Posted August 9, 2003 Posted August 9, 2003 I'M NOT HAPPY... they didnt have either Labs or Goldens in this test.... are they assuming that Labs and Goldens are SOOOOO docile they dont need the test????? Relax :lol: They have both labs AND goldens on the test stats page... Goldens are here: http://atts.org/stats4.html (82.5% pass rate) Labs are here: http://atts.org/stats5.html 90.6% (pass rate) I do agree though that the stats aren't the most accurate way of telling the temperament of an entire breed... how many people are going to test a dog they KNOW will fail? Now, if it was a mandatory thing with the breed clubs, or needed for registration, showing, something like that, then it would be a much better guage of the temperament of an entire breed. I still think that for most of the breeds with a high number of dogs tested (over 200), the stats are fairly accurate. Quote
courtnek Posted August 9, 2003 Posted August 9, 2003 :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: thanks Gooey - somehow I missed that. Quote
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