Kiger Posted June 18, 2003 Posted June 18, 2003 Just got back from the vet. When I came home at lunch today to take Kato out for a walk he had a bloody poop and then proceded to squeeze out a couple drops of pure blood. Freaked me out good. After a bunch of tests, they couldn't find anything wrong with him at all. The vet even stuck a finger up there and no blood was on his glove. Poor dog got violated for nothing. He might have irritable bowel syndrome, or it might be the change in food - or it might be an early stage of something else. All I can do is watch him. They did suggest that BARF might help if it's IBS - amazingly a vet who doesn't push Science Diet - but I wouldn't know where to start and he really doesn't like chewing on real bones much. Quote
behle Posted June 18, 2003 Posted June 18, 2003 Poor Kato! Why is it, when everything is going along so well, that all of a sudden out of the blue comes...TROUBLE! :x Hope nothing else turns up and Kato is okay! Quote
Rosebud Posted June 18, 2003 Posted June 18, 2003 :wink: [quote name='"Kiger"']....They did suggest that BARF might help if it's IBS - amazingly a vet who doesn't push Science Diet - ....quote] Keep that vet, don't let him go. I hope that Kato gets better. I am not trying to scare you, but: You posted something about another dog dying after going to a show, where you at that same show? :angel: Quote
mouseatthebusstop Posted June 18, 2003 Posted June 18, 2003 POOR LITTLE KATO. THAT WOULD HAVE FRIGHTED ME AS WELL I HOPE HE IS WELL SOON :) Quote
Kiger Posted June 18, 2003 Author Posted June 18, 2003 No I wasn't at that show. I showed against that dog a few months ago. Poor little girl. :( The timing of that e-mail just couldn't have been worse. I knew that they couldn't be related but it freaked me out anyway. Well, the vet suggested BARF, so I drove 60 miles to find a place that sold Steve's. Sheesh, I live in one of the biggest cities on the East Coast and I can find 2 places that sell frozen food - one of which is over an hour away. I'm going to have to start making my own if this works because this stuff is expensive! :( Quote
imported_Cassie Posted June 19, 2003 Posted June 19, 2003 BARF can be very expensive if you buy it pre-made...I have all my Dogs on BARF...I usually wait til Saturday night at the grocery store when they mark down all meat products...then I go down fill my shopping cart bring the meat home, cut it up in bit size pieces, I put meal size portions in freezer bags and have pre-made meals for each dog. I by whole chickens (with the goblets & necks inside....the things that when you cooked your first chicken or turkey you cooked as well...at least I did :oops: ) Its much cheaper to make the meals your self especially when you have alot of dogs ( I have 4 - 3 Newf's & 1 Rottie) also make freinds with your local butcher...some times they will give you really good deals especially if they slaughter their own animals...you can get all the great left over stuff! If your dog won't chew bones, as much as I hate to suggest it you can supplement Kato's diet with Bone meal, found in most Vitamin stores... Get a blender also for the veggies, they have to be blended up first...I also got a coffee bean grinder so I can grind my own flax seeds for the additional omega 3 & 6 fatty acids...my dogs do great on flax seeds, I have heard that some dogs don't.. The only things I never give my dogs raw are fish....I feed only canned salmon & canned sardines....some times canned Tuna....there is a parasite which salmon can carry...I feed mackeral also, I usually buy makeral and or smelt and steam it up for my dogs occasionaley with steamed brown & wild rice (get your rice, oats etc at a local bulk barn much cheaper) A good book to get is "Give the Dog a bone" by Dr. Billinghurst (I think thats the spelling) I wish you and Kato all the best. Quote
Kiger Posted June 19, 2003 Author Posted June 19, 2003 Yep, I'm sure. I had to wipe it up. There was a bit more last night that came out with the last of the kibble, but he's been okay since then even though he got a raw duck patty last night. I'm going home in a bit to walk him and see if he's still doing okay. Quote
imported_Cassie Posted June 19, 2003 Posted June 19, 2003 Here is some additional info on IBS: http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=2&cat=1571&articleid=305 Quote
Kiger Posted June 19, 2003 Author Posted June 19, 2003 Thanks. The vet described it more as Irritable Bowel Syndrome and that it wasn't as big a deal. Also, to look at Kato you would never think there was anything wrong with him. He doesn't have any of the other symptoms so I'm not really sure what he's got. He was fine at lunch. He didn't pass anything, but at least I know he doesn't have diarrhea today. Quote
Mary's Mama Posted June 19, 2003 Posted June 19, 2003 I have Irritable BS and it isn't so bad. I am just not as regular as most people. Another thing you might consider are lactose intolerance. It has similar symptoms. Good luck on the barf. I have and do continue to consider it. I live in a large city too. There are no butchers here. Grocery stores dont cut their own meat, bakeries dont make any off the items (they bake them but dont make them). Buying the whole chickens is a great idea. If I didn't have to work full time I think I could do it. I just dont feel like I have the time to put into it yet. Quote
Kiger Posted June 19, 2003 Author Posted June 19, 2003 Well, after 24 hours on raw I have seen a 95% improvement. It remains to be seen whether he will stay good, but wow! And I always thought the BARF people were kidding, but no odor - not that I'm sticking my nose in it, but his were always so stanky you could smell them from several feet away. Okay, enough about poop. :D Quote
imported_Cassie Posted June 20, 2003 Posted June 20, 2003 :lol: :lol: :lol: sticking your nose where it don't belong???? :wink: I can really emphasize with Kiger....my Rottie when I first got her had alot of diarrhea, so much that she also used to pass alot of blood ....all the diarrhea would irratate her digestive system...I'd fast her for 24 hours to give her digestive system a rest then feed bland food like steamed hamburg & white rice...back on the kibble after the bland diet and I'd have a few good days of normal bowel movements...I too used to follow my dog around looking at all her poops and watching her to make sure she wasnt straining! what horrible entertainment! :o My Rottie is fine now, no more diarrhea since she has been on the BARF diet, they also poop less often.. Quote
Kiger Posted June 20, 2003 Author Posted June 20, 2003 Hey, now I can say that my dog is so good even his sh*t doesn't stink. :lol: Quote
behle Posted June 20, 2003 Posted June 20, 2003 :lol: :roll: :lol: Kiger, I guess you're entitled to that "groaner" since you've been under a lot of stress lately. :lol: Glad your little fella is feeling better! Quote
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