Guest Anonymous Posted June 10, 2003 Posted June 10, 2003 I was looking for Keeshond pictures via altavista.com's image search. I came across my dogs' picture, the one I'm using as an avatar. I'm pretty sure that it's being used for a breed profile on a BYB site. http://www.gate.net/~luckypup/keeshond.html Do you guys think it's a BYB site? Read their pages that talk about their "puppy store" and facilities and tell me if you agree? http://www.gate.net/~luckypup/puppystore.html http://www.gate.net/~luckypup/facilities.html I'm guessing they swipped it from Dog Breed Info. Center without the webmaster's permission. Even if she did give them permission, I should've been notified about it. I'm E-mailing the people at the Luckypup Ranch Puppy Store and telling them they don't have my permission to use the picture and should remove it. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 10, 2003 Posted June 10, 2003 I just called the Luckypup Ranch Puppy Store even thought it's 5 AM CST and left a message detailing the situation and asking that they remove the picture promptly! I also closed the voice mail by asking them to reply to the matter at hand via by phone or E-mail (whichever is best for them) just as long as they get back with me. I also E-mailed the webmaster over at Dog Breed Info. Center and explained the situation to the webmaster. I asked her to incorporate a no right click code into ever page of the DBI site as to prevent people from stealing graphics and pictures that aren't theirs. I'm hoping that she'll take my advice and incorpate the no right click code. I'm really hoping I don't have to take legal action against the BYBs though if I have to, I will. I suspect they'll comply as to not draw to much attention to themselves being that BYBs aren't quite frowned upon in today's society. Quote
mouseatthebusstop Posted June 10, 2003 Posted June 10, 2003 YEP BYB THEY HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT BREEDS TOO :( Quote
Rowie-the-Pooh Posted June 10, 2003 Posted June 10, 2003 OMD! That's horrible! How RUDE! :evil: Hey, atleast you can feel special having your pups on a website! 8) They have Goldens... :cry: Quote
primabella Posted June 10, 2003 Posted June 10, 2003 It's such BS, they way they act like they are treating their dogs right. :evil: I hope they remove the picture, although I doubt it. I can't believe they would do something like that--take your picture. Just that is terrible. Good luck with getting it removed. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 10, 2003 Posted June 10, 2003 Ms. McGuire, the lady who runs DBI, E-mailed me back stating that she called the BYB people asking them to remove my photo and will keep calling until it's removed. She urged me to do the same. I just got off the phone and got a voice mail again for the BYB people. GRRRRR!!!! I was also told by Ms. McGuire that the no right click code was a great idea and she'd inform the tech guys about the it. She thanked me for the code. I'm so outraged that a BYB would swipe my dogs' picture from a good dog site and use it for their site to promote something I don't like nor advocate. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 11, 2003 Posted June 11, 2003 UPDATE: Ms. McGuire has gone ahead and begun implementing the no right click code into the 1,100 pages that comprise the DBI website. She already added it to the 'about' page (http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/about.htm). ...12 hours passed and I didn't hear back anything from the lady that runs the Luckypup Ranch Puppy Store so I decided to call her again. I got a voice mail just like before. I left her another message. Ms. McGuire has been trying to reach her via E-mail and phone throughout the day and has also been unsuccessful in her efforts to reach Dr. Leah Garcia. I've contacted Charlie Crist the FL Attorney General and have filed a fraud complaint against Mrs. Garcia and Luckypup Ranch Puppy Store. I've also went ahead and filed a complaint with the FL Dept. of Agriculture's Division of Consumer Services. I'm REALLY upset over this and feel like I have every right to be upset. Quote
courtnek Posted June 11, 2003 Posted June 11, 2003 I may be wrong, but I dont believe a copyright is necessary in the case of personal photo's...copyrights are used to protect inventions from being stolen from the inventor and such....If this person cannot prove the photo was given to him willingly, then it's theft... there are ways to change a photo to look "different" from the original, but since it was recognized those ways were not used. I would slam them. They are trying to make money from yur photo - make them pay YOU.... Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 11, 2003 Posted June 11, 2003 I just got thru to someone there and the guy admitted to stealing it from Ms. McGuire's DBI site while adding that they just wanted to show someone what a Keeshond looked like and then hung up on me when I told him I wanted it removed promptly. I got back on the phone only to get a voice mail and told him to be expecting some legal action from this. Daisysmom napisał(a):Did you have a copywrite on your picture? Of course there's a copyright on the picture! At the very bottom of every DBI page it says: The Material contained herein may not be reproduced without the prior written approval of the author. Quote
Daisysmom Posted June 11, 2003 Posted June 11, 2003 Can I copyright my website? The original authorship appearing on a website may be protected by copyright. This includes writings, artwork, photographs, and other forms of authorship protected by copyright. Procedures for registering the contents of a website may be found in Circular 66, Copyright Registration for Online Works. found this on a copyright site. There is also information there on original works of art. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 11, 2003 Posted June 11, 2003 I was curious as to if the other pictures for their breed profiles were stolen from McGuire's DBI site so I checked. I was right. The guy stole all of their breed profile pictures from the DBI site. Quote
courtnek Posted June 11, 2003 Posted June 11, 2003 you are right Kayzhond - I was confusing copyright with patents. I stand corrected. Please feel free to do so again at anytime...and I mean it!!! I dont want to ever give out bad/wrong information, so if necessary, correct me...I dont hold grudges.. not for long, at least... LOL (just teasing) thanks! :D Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 11, 2003 Posted June 11, 2003 Don't worry about it courtnek! I found out that Dr. Garcia's ISP is Earthlink and Earthlink is hosting the BYB site. I checkd Earthlink's Policies & Agreements section. Dr. Garcia is in violation of Earthink's Terms & Conditions. Furthermore, she is in direct violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act . I have E-mailed the Earthlink abuse team and carbon copied an E-mail to Ms. McGuire. We also learned that Dr. Garcia has stolen textual information from DBI in addition to the dog pictures. What Dr. Garcia has done is totally unacceptable and she should suffer some ramifications as a result even if it means having Earthlink terminate her account. Hopefully, Dr. Garcia won't try to get out of it by saying, "I had know idea what my site webmaster was doing until now" because that's just pure BS! and a lack of professionality on her part. She should know what her people are doing. After all, she's doing the hiring and paying their salaries. Courtnek, I see you're in Elgin, IL. That's not that far from me. Maybe we could get together sometime for a weekday lunch or weekend shopping spree. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 11, 2003 Posted June 11, 2003 UPDATE: I have been in contact with Earthlink's legal department. Ms. McGuire got them to remove the pictures, except mine. However, the text remains. The ***hole that manages the Luckypup Ranch Puppy store website has now resorted to slander/libel, take a look: http://www.gate.net/~luckypup/keeshond.html I have contacted Ms. McGuire to let her know that he's now resorted to slandering me. I'm even more upset that the guy would be this low. I contacted the Lake County Bar Association who recommended a lawyer that handles slander suits. I've given the Luckypup Ranch people 24 hours to remove my picture and stop the slander otherwise they shall face a civil lawsuit. Their dogs are the result of bad breeding, not mine! Quote
Rowie-the-Pooh Posted June 11, 2003 Posted June 11, 2003 OMD! THAT IS SOO RUDE OF THEM? :evil: :evil: :evil: I, too, cannot belive this person is stooping so low. It's NOT your fualt! You wanted your dogs pic OFF! That guy is an @$$hole... Keep us updated.... Quote
Sanvean Posted June 11, 2003 Posted June 11, 2003 What pieces of crap! :grab: I did notice that DBI doesn't allow right clicking now, though -- thank god! Quote
Crested Posted June 11, 2003 Posted June 11, 2003 WOW! :o ...I'm speechless... :o Thoose are really big idiots. The "If you don't get psychiatric help at Charter. Please get help somewhere!" is just really low!! I have an idea that might proove that the picture is yours. Do you have the negative of the picutre and the original picture? If so, you have an even better chanse of a lawsuit. Make them wish they had never even seen that picture! :evilbat: Think if somebody has stolen Ben's picture!! :o Got to go and check on google just to be on the safe side! :wink: Keep us posted on what's going on, ok? /Crest Quote
StarFox Posted June 12, 2003 Posted June 12, 2003 Kayzhond- If there is anything that we can do to help get your pics of of there site just tell us. Like if everyone here e-mailed them telling them to take the pic off there site? Well just let us know if we can help you some how, we don't mind! :D Quote
LisaLQ Posted June 12, 2003 Posted June 12, 2003 Something similar happened to one of the managers of my site recently. I'd been given the link to a new "rescue" that had a lot of greyhounds and lurchers needing homes, and been asked to crosspost their details to our site. I was looking at the site and saw a really lovely looking dog on it, and was showing my friend through MSN messenger. I told her to look at the cute dog I'd seen, and she got the shock of her life! The dog under the one I was showing her on the page was her dog - marked up as a female needing a home. They had pinched the picture (dont know if it was the first time or not) off our site, and used it to advertise their dogs. Turns out they're not the most reputable of rescues, and were also "selling" dogs through the free-ads, and also race dogs - so the greys they had needing homes might have been their own. I wont name the rescue, as this could still be a misunderstanding, but as we've had no reply to the emails sent, we're assuming they dont want to explain it. They've removed the pic now, but no apology as yet that I know of. :( :-? Quote
Rowie-the-Pooh Posted June 12, 2003 Posted June 12, 2003 Crested napisał(a):Oh, and umm... What's a BYB?? :oops: /Crest Back Yard Breeder. :wink: Kayzhond: I'm going to send them an e-mail and post it here K? This has gon far enough, other members, please help! :D Quote
Rowie-the-Pooh Posted June 12, 2003 Posted June 12, 2003 Dear LuckyPup Ranch, A friend of mine has informed me that you have illegally taken a picture of hers and posted it on your site as one of your own. She has asked you many times to remove it, but you have only replied by saying that her picture is a picture of illbred dogs. I would like to ask you now to remove it, as calling a picture that isn't yours is stealing. My friend is ready to take legal action if this picture is not removed. You may e-mail be back at rowie_the_pooh@hotmail.com . Thank You. Sorry it isn't really...good. :-? Quote
Bubblezzz Posted June 12, 2003 Posted June 12, 2003 :o :o OMG!! That's totally despicable!!! :evil: It's unbelivable how they have the cheek to post that after ripping off your photo like that!! :evil: :evil: Removing all the other pictures but yours???!! That's tanamount to showing you the finger!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: What a B**CH!!!!! :evil: Quote
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