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Guest Anonymous
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Well, it's been decided :cry: Hazel's going to be PTS :cry: She's lived a good life, better then she could have if in a different home... however I don't know how much to argue about that, since it could have been her foolish upbringing that caused her aggression :( I feel broken apart, like I've failed her. But we've tried next to everything for that dog, and nothing seems to work. My mom said she is lucky that she's made it this far, and that we hadn't gotten charged a long time ago, because she's bitten or snapped at more then one peoples :-?
At first my mom said I won't be allowed to get another dog, but then I explained to her I will go crazy without a dog. We finally came to an agreement about it, it'll be a lab ( :roll: mom wants NO chance of it being aggressive, I think I'll just give that one to her, and not try to argue anymore that it's not always in the breed) I'll have to stay home for the first year of it's life!! I won't be allowed to spend the night at peoples houses, but that's okay, I never do anyway. I also explained to her (cuz she said it's a bad time since I can get my licence soon, then I'll just be gone all the time) that if I could I'd take Hazel with me everywhere now, but I can't because she's aggressive.
I want to work so hard, and not make the same mistakes.
This was the hardest disicion (sp?) I've EVER had to make, so please dont' think I'm just trying to "Start over" with a new dog because I screwed up on the first :cry: It breaks my heart tones because I love Hazel to death. But it's better for her to go off to the rainbow bridge then have to live so confined and constantly getting yelled at because we never corrected her with so many things from the start :( I feel TERRIBLE that I've failed her so much.
I understand a lot of people on here don't think it's good for me to get "rid of" her and get a new dog, and if this starts a large argument, I'm afraid I'll just have to leave Dogo. I love Dogo, it's like a second home to me, but this was not an easy thing to come to, and to have people yell at me for it will just break me more.
I'm sorry to all of you and 'pecially to my Hazel that I've failed you all and her so badly :cry: :cry:

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I'm so sorry Hazel.... :cry: I do wish things could have turned out differently for you and HazelNutMeg. I certainly am not going to yell at you or get mad or think you are just ditching a difficult dog just to get an easier one. I'll be thinking about you in the days ahead....as you come to terms with this painful decision. When you are older and can make decisions totally on your own, then.....you will. :cry: :cry: :cry:

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:o


I am VERY VERY sorry Hazel, for you and your pup. I am not mad at you, I just wish it could have turned out better for everyone. I adopted a shelter dog that was aggessive, with all the good intentions in the world, but he couldnt be trained or loved out of it. It was a neurological thing, they thought. So I know how you feel and I am very sorry this happened.

Sometimes there is nothing you can do with a problem dog (or child, for that matter). You did your best, you invested the time and training, and it didnt work out. Maybe next time, it will. A lab is a good idea. They are not NORMALLY aggressive (you know how that goes, we've talked about it),
so that may be a good choice for right now.

Best of luck to you and let me know how you get on!

Katy

Guest Anonymous
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thanks guys :cry:
I think it may have to do with something other then socializing with Hazel... because she WAS socialised a LOT! I started her at Agility classes when she was 6 months old, and when we first got her mom even took her into the grociery store to get her collar! :lol: Mom took her around a lot when she was a puppy... so I don't really know how it happened :o :cry:
Yeah, I love labs, our old one was GREAT! But, I would still rather have another BC... I like them a lot, but now my mom thinks they all have a chance of being aggressive :cry:

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I had never heard of BC's being aggressive, but the female in the yard next door is. I originally thought it was the APBT that was making all the noise (shame on me, I know...) but it wasnt - it was the BC that Freebee was reacting badly to. She is not aggressive to people though.

Sometimes it is just the perosnality of the dog I think....like people.
They dont all fit breed standards, which is why I normally dont suggest looking to breed standards to pick out a dog. You need to meet the dog, watch it's reactions, and make sure it is neither the "runt of the litter" (the one that cow-tows to everyone else) or the "top dog" unless you are prepared to do some serious dominance training. Somewhere middle of the road is best....

Good Luck

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I think that it is really brave of you to be able to make the descision (I dunno how to spell it either, is that right?)
It is better for her to go to the rainbow bridge and be able to play and do whatever she wants, and you know she will! :wink:
A lab sounds nice.. :)
Hope you don't feel to bad..and NEVER blame yourself, Hazel is lucky to have had you. I'm sure alot of people would have given up straight away, but you've been able to give her a happy, loving family that she will never forget. :angel:
And if anyone argues, I'll have something to say about it, and I'm sure most people on here will too :wink:
thinkning of you xxx lannie and kodi

Guest Anonymous
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Thanks Lannie :) Made me cry, but thanks...

Court- it is weird for BC's to be aggressive... I think more females then males are though, most cases I've heard of it, it's been females :o

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I'm so sorry it had to come to this :(
Maybe Hazel does have something wrong inside that you'd never fix.
I certainly won't be nasty to you, I know from our chats on msn how hard this has been for you-you have so much in your life at the mo it has been impossible for you to cope.
Try not to blame yourself you haven't abused her,you've loved her, when you think of all the animals who die everyday that have never been loved Hazel was lucky to have you-if she had been in rescue they would have been unable to rehome her and the end result would have been the same ,but at least with you she has known love.
Thinking of you xxx

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I am so sorry Hazel :cry:

I don't think anyone here is out to get mad or yell at you. We all just want what is best and as we are not in your shoes it is no ones place to judge what is best other than you. We know how much you love Hazel and know that you wouldn't be taking this route if there was an alternative.

I agree, there are some people that have chemical imbalances that make them unable to fit into normal society, I don't see why it would be any different with dogs. Maybel Hazel has something that is just not quite right. :(

Take care and vent here as much as you want - we all understand.

Guest Anonymous
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Thanks guys...
Every time I come on here I start to cry now! :cry:

I will try to update you guys when anything happens... but probably won't be on much with all this... I'll just start crying... so many things keep reminding me what my life may be like without her, and I cant' stop wondering if it's the right thing to do... :cry:

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Hazel is lucky to have had you
That's just what I was going to say :( I'm sorry it had to come to this decision. Please know that we are all here for you and feel for you and Hazel. Remember, you will meet again :cry:

I'm sorry.......

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I'm soo sorry Hazel. I know it must have been such a hard decision to make but you are doing the right thing. You've done everything for her and I'm sure she knows that. I don't think it was anything you did or did not do with her. We all make mistakes (especially me) but I'm sure if there were any other way you would do that. I'm sorry and my heart it with you and hazel.

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Oh Shara :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

I'm so sorry... I'm tearing up here. I know how much you love Hazel and how hard you've tried. Nobody here is going to jump on you for anything because we know how much work you've put into her. Hazel will be safe and happy at the bridge and one day you'll be reunited with her. :angel:

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I'm soooooooo sorry, you have done all you can, you have got me in tears now :bigcry: :bigcry:

My sister has a cross BC and she is seriously dog aggressive. This is sad because she is a lovely gentle dog but is unable to be walked off lead. Even on the lead she tries to get at any other dog around. I'd love her to run with my dogs and have a good time but it's impossible. We tried it once with her lead and muzzle on but she just tried to get at my dogs all the time and they wouldn't go anywhere near her. But it's sad watching them run free and she's on a lead. :( :(

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:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

I know this hurts and that you will try to blame yourself, but I want you to remember that you have been a good momma to Hazel. She has been very roller coaster with her temperment and that could very well be an indication of a chemical instability. You should remember her and realize that she will be happy and healthy at the Rainbow Bridge. Do not blame yourself, you did not fail as a momma; you were the best momma Hazel could have ever gotten. My heart aches for you and Hazel and my shoulder is here to cry on.


:angel:

Guest Anonymous
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Thanks guys...
Yesterday I took her for a walk down to the lake, but it was so windy we couldn't stay there, so I took her to some of the Quading Trails around there, she just LOVED it! Everything was new to her (and to me :o So we didn't go too far! :lol: ) and so many exciting smells!! :D
Next I took her to the feild by our house. I hadn't been there since Blue died, which is where I took him before I found out he had to be PTS :cry: My cuz always tells me about how it's great for paint ball and they play every weekend there, so I figured Hazel would love to sniff around some, and there's this big pile of wood (well, trees :o ) and she was sniffin all through it and having a good ol' time. I couldn't help but cry though. She's such a vibrant little life. I can't see how anyone so happy could have such bad behavior problems! :cry: I just wanted to let her offlead to run around all she wanted, but not only does this feild open up to the road, but I wouldn't be sure if she'd come back when I called her :(
Once again thank you... it helps that your their for me and Hazel.
I still don't know when we're going to have her PTS... I'm still thinking a lot about it, but I do think it would be best... the only reason I don't want her to is because I love her so much, but I know it's just being selfish, so I will have to let her go :( I HATE that she's always so confined.
I'm going to talk to my 'rents today, and ask them when we're going to bring her down to the vet. I don't care if it's during school, and I don't care if my parents try everything in their power, I am GOING WITH HER. I would hate for the last face for her to see is the face of the "evil vet".

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:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Oh Shara! :cry: I'm so sorry! :cry:

I know how hard it's been for you, and the descision(sp?) you made might most probably be the most reasonable one :-? I know how hard it's been for you...so much is going on in your life...no-one here blames you...no one WILL balme you...no-one will yell..no one will EVER yell(and if they do thier dead :evil: )...

All we want(as K said) is the best for you and Hazel, and having her PTS might just be the best thing to do! :cry: Her problems are out of control, and it's NOT you're fault..if she had so much socialization and such...must have been in her blood(parents might have been aggressive..Etc.) it's NOT your fault..!! :wink:


Maybe you should wait awhile till you get your Lab(great chioce BTW :D ), wait till you're over Hazel..you know..then when you feel like you're ready, you can get the lab :D

Remember, what you did was for the best, and it's NOT in any way your fault! You are NOT failing her! Some things are that way I guess.. :-?

Remember, if you EVER need a shoulder to cry on, we'll be there...we all know of pain and loss...it's really hard... :-? But that's what Dogo is for...we're all one big great family, and just because you had Hazel PTS does NOT mean we don't want you here...you did what was for the best! So PLEASE don't leave..it would feel so empty here without you! :cry:

Guest Anonymous
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awe, Thanks Rowie!! :angel:
I'll get my lab when I find it... (or it finds me :wink: )
but to wait until I'm "over Hazel" would be a life time, and I can't live without a dog!! :wink: :cry:

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Shara we are Pressing Paws and Hands here for you and Hazel :(
Sometimes we all have to make difficult decisions, I certainly don't envy your position. :(
My Nakita was an Akita/Rott cross and she was as good as gold with people but she was very dog aggressive. :( I knew her limitations and she always had to be kept on lead when we were outside. She lived to the ripe old age of 15yr. , when I had to finally make the decision to put her to sleep. :cry:(Health Problems) I went in with her and held her in my arms while the Vet administered the injection. It was the least I could do for 15yr. of loyal dedication and love, following me around like a shadow for 15yr...... I still miss her to this day. :cry:
Hazel could have something neurologically wrong... she may be happier waiting for you on the Rainbow Bridge. :angel:
So Sorry For You :cry:

Guest Anonymous
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Tuesday.

I went into the living room and my mom was like "What do you have monday? Do you have any tests at school?" and i was like "yeah, after school, why?" and she was like "what about Tuesday?" and I was like "uh, not that I know of... why?" and she was like 'Cuz we're trying to think of a time Dad can get time off work to take the dog in" and I was like "WHAT?! THAT SOON?!" and I almost started crying and she was like "yeah, there's no use putting it off, it'll just make you sadder" and I was like "yeah, but I thought it was guna be like at the end of the week!" and she replied "no, we need to do it now" and like... I duno... i can't believe it's that soon... by the end of the week I won't have my baby girl anymore!! :cry: :cry:

15 years... wow... I wish I could keep Hazel longer... but she's not JUST dog aggressive, she's people too. :(

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I am VERY sad Hazel, but know, that she will understand....I had to put Alex down, for his own good, I had to put Razie down, because of aggression...

THEY know we understand, They know we love them, and they know that things could have been worse, if they lived with anyone else....

we gave them all the love we could. they know that. they understand why we have to make these decisions.....

they love us. as much as we love them. Life is not always easy..sometimnes we have to make the hard choices....

Believe that they know that, and are waiting for us, when our times come.

:angel:

She will remember how much you loved her...I promise!

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Oh Shara, I don't know what to say! :cry:
Its terrible things have worked out like that, never blame yourself though, I promise you ITS NOT YOUR FAULT! Lily is dog agressive, all the socialisation in the world hasn't changed that, its not my fault, and its not her fault either, its just the way it is and it breaks my heart every time I think of it.
You are only doing what is best, she has lived a good life with you. I'm glad your parents have decided to take you to the vets with them, when my first dog was hit by a car she was paralized but the vet told us if we gave her excercises every day for a week it may get better. Then the day came when the week was up and the appointment had been made for her at the vets. Mum dropped me at school that morning and I spent the whole day in agony wondering whether I'd have a dog to come home to. I didn't, and I'm never going to forgive mum for that. Even when my cat was put to sleep this year and I went with him I didn't stay and hold him while he drifted into his long sleep, I was on the floor crying, unable to move, but just the fact that I was there and he knew his mummy still loved him no matter what was the only thing that mattered. :cry: Oh I'm crying now!!! I miss my cat :cry: *sniff*... great, I've got a visiter, bad timing!!!! :cry: :cry: :cry:

Shara, I can't say I know how you must be feeling, but I can say I realise how bad it must be for you, and my heart goes out to you. I'll say a prayer for Hazel when I go to bed tonight. Stay strong and give Hazel an extra hug from me.

Let me suggest that your next dog is a rescue dog, there are plenty of dogs at shelters who need loving homes and if you buy an older dog you already know what its temprement will be like. I hope you, or anyone else here (or anywhere), never has to go through anything this heart breaking ever again :cry: :(

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