Holz_Boomer Posted March 27, 2003 Posted March 27, 2003 Everyone! I need your help!mY Dog is killing SOOOOOOOOOOO many cats and i dont knnow how to stop him!!!!please!my mom is sooooo mad at him but it's not really his fault...it's his instinct...especially an Irish Wolfhounds..Im the only one who understands it though...help please :x Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted March 28, 2003 Posted March 28, 2003 That is what I was thinking...how is this dog getting a hold of these cats to kill them. If the dog is running at large, then my dear confine your dog. Nothing makes me more upset than people who think exercising their dog is opening the front door and letting them go. It is really sad especially in the winter; this winter hundreds of deer where killed by dogs...the snow has a thick crusty, icy top layer that will not support the deers weight but small dogs can run on top just fine...the deer are in a weakened state in the winter....you have dogs which chase the deer to exhaustion and then leave them to die...and that is not something a coyote would do...they are hungry too, they would eat the deer...my brother is an avid outs door man and has seen dogs chasing deer many times...what a sad way to die. Quote
Holz_Boomer Posted March 28, 2003 Author Posted March 28, 2003 :cry: i know, i know...because we live on a farm...he stays outside but comes inside quite often...he is a farm dog like my other dog Holly..The Biggest problem is....ThEy'rE NoT AlL OuR CaTs :cry: so, when he's outside...i guess he just gets them...don't ask me how because Boomer is the slow one out of my two dogs.Holly is the much faster one..but she DOES NOT kill cats...she grew up with them, she would never hurt them...So, yah :-? i'm really worried...i don't want you to hate my dog..he's super good! He just doesnt know better! He DOES NOT kill them viciously...it's like a game to him...when he sees cats he wags his tail! And as I said: he doesnt know much better..This isbecause we adopted him into our family..He was abandonned...dropped off in the street!! :( i feel so sad! I dont know if you've seen it but i made a post once about him and the whole story of when wefound him...Well, if you have any more ideas...please tell me! Thank YOU P.s/ Boomer GetsAlong EXTRMELY well with kids and people and other dogs...hes Big,Clumsy,aND VERY friendly Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted March 28, 2003 Posted March 28, 2003 Farm or no Farm, your dog shouldn't be allowed to run free, 'pecially if he's KILLING CATS!!! :x Quote
courtnek Posted March 28, 2003 Posted March 28, 2003 He may have killed small animals when he lived on the streets to eat. No recriminations here - BUT - he needs some real, consistant training. He may still be hunting, or he may just be chasing because a dog will chase anything that runs. 1. Put him on a lead, and introduce him to a cat in a carrier. This protects the cat and does not allow him to hurt it in any way. You may have to buy a carrier if you dont have one - it will be a good investment. 2. Introduce your dog to the cat, while on a lead, and if he lunges, or tries to attack the crate, Correct him harshly, with voice, and then MAKE HIM SIT! INSTANTLY! try to introduce them again. Keep it up until he stops trying to get the cat or attack the crate. Realize that the cat will be scared, and may hiss, but the crate will protect him from harm. 3. Once he has stopped trying to get the cat, then praise him everytime they are together and he is behaving, and give him a treat. This is going to take some time - you will really have to work at it. Once they have attacked and killed another animal, it's very hard to train out. It can be done, but it takes time. 4. Consider a behaviorist. There are also sound aversion disks you can buy, which makes a sound unpleasant to the dog and they associate it with the bad behavior they are engaging in. Once you have him settled on the cat in the crate, you can use the sound aversion disks for outside. He needs to be on a lead the whole time however. You will really need to put some work into this, becasue if the neighbors find out he killed one of their cats, they can legally have him taken away and put down. YOU have to be willing to invest a lot of time, and some money, insto saving this dog. Quote
behle Posted March 28, 2003 Posted March 28, 2003 Super Advice, Courtnek! :kciuki: Speaking as a cat owner: Cats are often left to run loose. I believe that cat owners should shoulder the same level of responsibility of keeping their cats inside, or outside only with close supervision that dogs owners do. My cats are totally inside cats. For their own safety and my peace of mind. Quote
Holz_Boomer Posted March 28, 2003 Author Posted March 28, 2003 thank you bery much courtnek! :) and gee Hazel NutMeg...I'm sorry, it's not my fault :cry: and actually....my dog SHOULD run free he is a big dog and he needs his freedom! God, It's not like he ogoes out of my property! It's the cats who rome around at my house...not my fault!And behle is right! The cat owners should keep 'em inside! but they cant help it either! I live in the country, NOT the city...I can't keep my dog locked up in the house!He couldnt live for one day in the house! Hazel Nutmeg, you really don't understand...if you lived where I live you would agree with me...MY DOG CAN NOT LIVE INSIDE!!!!or locked up IN HIS KENNEL all day long Quote
Daisysmom Posted March 28, 2003 Posted March 28, 2003 Yes Courtnek, great advice!!! I must say, if the poor dog is on his own property, maybe the kittys' owners need to be warned to keep them off the property. Just natural with some dogs. Maybe you should warn your neighbors :D and then, there will be peace once more :lol: :lol: Quote
Holz_Boomer Posted March 28, 2003 Author Posted March 28, 2003 thx Daisymom! You're Soo Understanding! :):D yes, we have warned the neighbours but...wierd thing! we dont really have any neighbours cause we live in the country!...dont know WHERE these cats arecoming from...but, yes Daisymom..my dog is ALWAYS on my property! :angel: Quote
courtnek Posted March 28, 2003 Posted March 28, 2003 I agree Behle - a cat running loose is a dogs best dream - I CAN CHASE!!! Most dogs will chase a cat and then not know what to do when they catch it - this dog has been "street trained" and kills. This dog needs to be trained to not attack cats, or he will end up being put down. Not his fault, his life was hard, but I have a cat too and would be REALLY PO'd if a dog killed him. He is trained to never leave the yard (yes, they can be trained, it just takes a long time) so I can let him out and he will sit on the porch, or the yard, and watch the world go by...I get REALLY PO'd at people who let their dogs out to roam, because that puts my cat in a bad position to escape. Fortunately, he can run to the porch and then jump into the back yard to be safe. But people really need to take better control over their animals and take other animal owners into consideration... Quote
Holz_Boomer Posted March 28, 2003 Author Posted March 28, 2003 Yes Courtnek, Ur right..but my dog IS trained to stay on our 100 acre property and he hasn't disobeyed yet! :wink: Quote
Holz_Boomer Posted March 28, 2003 Author Posted March 28, 2003 I was looking for help!! Please don't hate my dog! I only posted that because I know a lot of you have so much experience that maybe you had a good suggestion for me.... not for you all to start hating my dog and even me :cry: I wouldn't have posted that if I would've known that some of you( not you *Daisy mom* :wink:..and Courtnek, you've been helpfull too)would get mad! Gosh! Thank God we have *some* people on Dogo who really understand everything and are soo kind! You Are Like..Peace Keepers! :D :D :) :) Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted March 28, 2003 Posted March 28, 2003 Holz_Boomer napisał(a): I wouldn't have posted that if I would've known that some of you( not you *Daisy mom* :wink:..and Courtnek, you've been helpfull too)would get mad! Gosh! Thank God we have *some* people on Dogo who really understand everything and are soo kind! You Are Like..Peace Keepers! :D :D :) :) I'm guessing that was directed at me? :roll: Boomer, I don't hate you or your dog! You got me wrong! I am, and always will be a cat lover (dogs first of course, but still love the kitties :wink: )! I DO live in the country! I probably have more neighbors then you, judging by what you've said, BUT, I still live out of our "town" (actually, tech. it's a "Village" :o ). We have dogs roaming free EVERYWHERE, and have had one of our cats attacked (on our deck!) by a dog before. Most of the neighbor's don't even consider a suggestion from ya, so I understand how that is. Our cats DO go outside, if they didn't they'd be goin insane!!! We have 5 acres, and they (USUALLY) stay within it... I have caught them off our property a few times, but every time I chase them back in, they know their supose to stay home. But, then again, my dog is watched 24/7 and kept on leash while outside (until we get the pen built) because she's aggressive, SO, I wouldn't really know how it is to have a dog that runs "free". But, we've had two dogs before that ran "free" and got hit by cars. But if the cats that appear to "not live anywhere" are comming into YOUR yard, that IS a different story. Court's suggestion is great, and I think you should try it! Oh, and it's just "Hazel" :wink: Spanx Luv. Quote
Holz_Boomer Posted March 28, 2003 Author Posted March 28, 2003 :angel: Yay! :angel: I feel so much better! I'm glad that you DO undertand! And, Yes..I AM doing Court's Idea! (Spanx Soo Much) I really hope it works! We have two indoor cats that my family loves very much( the 2 that are not barncats) and so, I took Boomer inside and held his colar (TIGHT)! My mom brought iN our favourite cat, Franklin.He is Orange and White..We introduced them to eachother. Franklin was not scared at all...quite relaxed acutally...Boomer sat there...for once, he was calm just wagging is tail slightly! I gave him a treat and told him he was a good doggy. :) I will repeat this alot! thanks Court! It's wierd though, cuz Holly(Holz) doesn't mind cats AT ALL...this is probably because when she grew up, we had a lot of farm kitty's and she got along with them vverryy well! She still does...if i find them, i'll post them because I have pictures of her and kitty's cuddling up together!Awww sooo cute! OK, "Hazel" :wink: And you guys can call me Mich..my real name is Michelle...but ALL my friends AND family call me "Mich"..Your Choice: you can call me "Mich" or "Holz" or "Boomer"!! Thanks you girlz! You're All so great! :angel: Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted March 29, 2003 Posted March 29, 2003 You have a FAVE Cat? Awe... I love all my cats ('cept one :lol: ) equal... well, the one I don't like too much, she's snobby and irritating, and when she DOES do something (like want to cuddle) she DROOLS!!! :o Glad to hear that your pups doin better with the whole "cat issue" Mich! That's always good to hear!! Quote
snowdogs Posted March 29, 2003 Posted March 29, 2003 :o I know how you feel. I have siberian huskies and it is in there nature to catch small things too. They have had many cats by there neck that have wandered in there yard but I have stopped them before they killed any so far. But they have killed many squirels and birds and chichmunks and a bunny. Something fun for them to do I guess. Quote
Holz_Boomer Posted March 29, 2003 Author Posted March 29, 2003 nnnno, not a fave cat! lol shhh dont tell! lol joking..it's like, the family's fave cat..i guess! lol the other one is...well...kinda...annoying! hehe and our barn cat ( *luckily stays far from the dogs* )...well, she likes to stay away from people...she stays on the beams of the barn(for all i know, she could come down when the dogs are not there). So, we put her food in a tin on the high beam :P ! Well, yes, i'll do the *dog and cat* routine very often to get them use to each other, ya know? Well, yah, snowdogs, Siberian Huskies too...LOVE to chase! Well, hopefully both of our dogs will stop the habbit :P ! Bye, ~/\/\!(h~ Quote
Holz_Boomer Posted March 29, 2003 Author Posted March 29, 2003 i'd like to show you some pictures...how may i ask? lol :lol: :P [/url] Quote
courtnek Posted March 29, 2003 Posted March 29, 2003 Dont worry Holz - my comment was not for you - you live on a farm (I wish I could!!) and dogs on a farm usually run free. Your problem is not your dog - he stays on his proprety, but the fact that cats wander in and his natural impulse is to chase and kill - may be part of his street training - but either way, wild cats will wander onto farms too, looking for mice and food. The best thing is to train your dog to like and then ignore cats on the property. Another reason for this, even if no one owns the cats, is that wild cats carry diseases you dont want your dog to get. Also, if a friendly lost cat wandered, again, you could end up losing your dog. The law is not always fair about these things. Even though the cat wandered onto your property, if the dog kills it and the owners find out, they have a suit they can file. Not right, but it can happen. They will look at it like "poor kitty - the big evil dog killed him"....SO again, train your dog to like cats and accept them when they wander in. Be aware that most people not only do not understand the way the hunting instinct works, but couldnt care less. They will want vengeance for their cat. I cant blame them in a way, but I live in the city where the laws are very strict about these things and people still ignore them. Dogs are not allowed off leash, but I see them wandering about all the time. And I have made it possible for my cat to escape, just so he can sit on the porch and the lawn and bask in the sun.... Good luck. With work and training you should be ok. And I'm glad I could help! :D Quote
DogPaddle Posted March 30, 2003 Posted March 30, 2003 As long as your dog is trained to stay on your property and try to train him not to eat cats your doing the best that you can, thanks for clearing that up and keep it up. :kciuki: Quote
Holz_Boomer Posted March 31, 2003 Author Posted March 31, 2003 Thanks For The Advice :D I've got to go though...Dad needs the internet and ..(shh, I'm suppose to be working on an English Essay now due tomorro that my mom doesnt know about, if she finds out it's due tomorrow...I'M LITERALLY DEAD! I might as well say my good-byes now! :lol: lol jk -Mich Quote
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