Guest Anonymous Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 Does anyone PennHip? Is it better to PennHip or OFA or both? I have heard that PennHip is better from some but from others I have heard that PennHip said a dog whose Hips were poor with the OFA were actually good. Does anyone have any opinions on this? Also most Apbt breeders do not CERF or BAER test should I be getting those tests done as well? I also wanted to know if you had any good links on puppy mills and pet stores that I could give to potential puppy buyers of any breed whom I know, they don't believe me and think that pet store puppies are worth more because they cost more. Quote
alicat613 Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 The penn-hipp vs OFA seems to be personal preference. I have known people who prefer Penn, but OFA seems more common. I also thought I heard Penn Hipp was not going to be available anymore but that may have been just a rumor. I don't know if CERF is necessary in the breed. BAER is I believe only necessary if the genetics could possibly produce blind deaf pups. But I'm not certain on those. For puppy mill and pet shop info: http://www.nopuppymills.com/ http://www.puppymills.com/ http://www.puppymillfighters.com/ http://www.stop-puppy-mills.com/ http://www.hsus.org/ace/11797 http://www.helppuppies.com/pmill.html http://www.geocities.com/jcrowe22/puppymillitems.html has links to many sites that have printable info Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 laduenda napisał(a):Does anyone PennHip? Is it better to PennHip or OFA or both? I have heard that PennHip is better from some but from others I have heard that PennHip said a dog whose Hips were poor with the OFA were actually good. Does anyone have any opinions on this? Also most Apbt breeders do not CERF or BAER test should I be getting those tests done as well? I also wanted to know if you had any good links on puppy mills and pet stores that I could give to potential puppy buyers of any breed whom I know, they don't believe me and think that pet store puppies are worth more because they cost more. Okay, sorry to sorta just jump in here waving my hand in the air! :lol: But, what is PennHip, OFA, CERF, and BAER? I've never heard of ANY of these things, and so I'm at a total loss!! (sorry I'm of no help!) Quote
mouseatthebusstop Posted March 6, 2003 Posted March 6, 2003 Read aramsey topic pet shops and her puppy. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted March 6, 2003 Posted March 6, 2003 mouseatthebusstop napisał(a):Read aramsey topic pet shops and her puppy. was that directed at me?Cuz I did, and still don't know what their talking about! :oops: Quote
gooeydog Posted March 6, 2003 Posted March 6, 2003 The reason there is debate over whether PennHIP or OFA is better for evaluating hips is that they measure different things. PennHIP measures the amount of laxity in the hip joint, which contributes to HD, and OFA (I'm not real sure on this, so somebody tell me if I'm wrong) evaluates the joint itself... looking for any noticeable signs of HD. It's up to you which you want to use, learn about both, then pick the one that best suits your needs. I would definitely CERF the dogs (every year for breeding stock), as PRA is becoming more and more common in APBTs. I wouldn't worry about BAER testing dogs/pups unless you find that other dogs of close relation are turning out deaf/hearing impaired, or you suspect something's not "right" with one of them. I believe there's also a cardiac evaluation you can have done, but I'm not sure if it's anything different than what your vet would do... Quote
Rottiegirl Posted March 6, 2003 Posted March 6, 2003 PennHip is newer, so not as many people are familair with it. In my opinion they both test the dogs hips and can give you good, honest rusults. Its just a matter of personal preferance Quote
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