Oh my Gawwwwwwwwwwd

[Guest Anonymous]

Thought so, Thanks BK!
I LOVE "weims"!!!! Their SOOO perdy! With those beauty eyes and shiney coat! :D

[wildbunch]

Hobbit, Couldn't find that site but I know what you're talking about. The gal that bred white dobes and teacup, toy pups. Also sold parrots and other animals I think. Couldn't find it anywhere but wow found some interesting stuff in the search.
http://ep.com/js/nav/c0/n0/242.html
http://www.etown.net/garagesale/buypets.htm
http://www.bethanygroup.com/tbg/classads/free.html "pit" people beware
http://www.freeclassifieds.com/FreeAds/Content/1400.Animals,PetsProducts,Services/AreaALL.Page1.htm UGH!!!!!!!!!
http://www.1stopfordogs.com/dogs-wanted.htm :cry:
Stopping now. Sorry Hobbit couldn't find it.
People make me so sick sometimes.

[Nancy B]

I don't know which albino breeder's website you're thinking of. Here are three of the most prolific...perhaps it's one of those.

http://members.aol.com/lornich/brubakerstudio/Page_1x.html
http://www.mysticmarshfarm.com/
http://vanhussdoberman.com/

Unfortunately, there are lots more. :cry:

[Nancy B]

BTW, if you really want to see what they're all about, go take a look at the White Doberman club's website. http://www.whitedoberman.org/

Someone who knows little about dogs or Dobermans could find that website very impressive. Of course, I could say the same thing about the websites of the two very large commercial Doberman breeders (non albino). A snazzy website doesn't have anything to do with what type of dogs are being produced.

[gooeydog]

I think the dobie site you're talking about is wizardofclaws.com. They have white "dobies" on there. Some of the posts on those other sites were really pathetic though.

From http://ep.com/js/nav/c0/n0/242.html...

AKC PITBULL puppies. 8 weeks olds, Both parents on site. Must see these cuties. call XXXXX. Asking $250, negotiable.
Sure they're AKC :o :chainsaw1:

The next "fad dog" for my area... http://ep.com/js/mi/c0/b0/v0/n0/1561624.html;jsessionid=ep.com-5a6a%3A3e331648%3A125ed6ed80eacfc0 that's the third or fourth ad I've seen for them in the past 2 months.

Some of the cutest dachshund mixes I've seen in a while :evilbat: ... http://www.geocities.com/fancythatratterriers/

From http://www.etown.net/garagesale/buypets.htm ...

Nov6-Cibolo Texas Miniture Boxer with papers for stud service. Note, this is the largest of the miniture breed, loves children, does not chase cats, beautiful black with white color and really likes to play fetch. Price for service $300 or good offer.
Miniture Boxer!??? With papers...???

Oct21-Houston Texas Hello, my name is Mark. Looking to find an owner of a female miniature pinscher who is interested in breeding his dog with my black male min pin. His name is Clyde and has a Champion certificate of Pedigree. Interested in making money. Thank you.
A Champion certificate of Pedigree... :lol:

Oct16-san francisco california my name is brenae and i am searching for a female pitbull either to own or mate. i am not looking for any specific color i just would like to add on to my pitbull family. please help me in any way you can anything is greatly appreciated.
Their "pit bull FAMILY"??? :o

From http://www.1stopfordogs.com/dogs-wanted.htm ...

Breed_Wanted: pit bull
Breed_Wanted_From_The_Country: united states
Breed_Wanted_From_State_Province: pennsylvania
Dogs_Age: puppy under age of 2
Prefered_Dogs_Color: any
gender_of_dog: Male
Dog-Wanted-Tracking-Number: 030175
Date: Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Time: 01:35:21 PM -0800
Extra_Notes
i hope it's free because i don't have alot of money!
:roll:

Breed_Wanted: pitbull
Breed_Wanted_From_The_Country: cairo illinois
Breed_Wanted_From_State_Province: illinois
Dogs_Age: month s
Prefered_Dogs_Color: ANY COLOR
gender_of_dog: Female
Date: Monday, January 06, 2003
Time: 05:54:05 PM -0800
Extra_Notes
I WANT A PITBUUL I GOT A BOY INEED AGIRL IF IT COST ME 25$ TO PAY IWNT IT JANUARY 8 OR 12 I SWER TO GOD THANK YOU THIS IS FOR MY FAMILY WE NEED IT TO MAKE PUPS AND SELL WE NEED THAT MONEY FOR BILLS THANK YOU VERY MUCH CALL AND SEE CAN WE GET IT I THANK YOU I SWER TO GOD BY
Oooh... They're willing to pay $25 for the poor pup, who will then be bred to death because they're too lazy to support themselves :x

[Carolk9s]

Paging NancyB! I've PM'd you to see if you've heard of the Big Dog Kennel in Keswick VA. A friend is looking for a Rottie and mentioned them. They also have Dobies.
Any info you might be able to share will be greatly appreciated!

[Nancy B]

[quote name='Carolk9s']Paging NancyB! I've PM'd you to see if you've heard of the Big Dog Kennel in Keswick VA. A friend is looking for a Rottie and mentioned them. They also have Dobies.
Any info you might be able to share will be greatly appreciated!

The name of the kennel is the "Big Dog Kennel"? Sorry, I've never heard of them. If your friend has concerns it may be worthwhile to check the local breed rescues (of the breeds they produce) to see if any of their dogs wind up in rescue. The Dobe clubs national rescue organization is called CPOE...I'll post a website that has links to Dobe rescues all over the country. http://www.dpcacope.org/ Of course, she can also do the usual....get sire/dam names and check in health databases as well as AKC.

One thing that I did do was look in this years DPCA's breeder directory. That kennel isn't listed. I don't have a person's name so, I can't check to see if they have a membership in the DPCA.

It's not unheard of for good Dobe breeders to also be involved in a second breed. It is unusual for the second breed to be large dogs....usually Min Pins or Whippets.

How did she hear of this kennel. Did the Rottie national breed club refer her?


WAIT JUST A MINUTE!!!! I just figured out what a pm is and how to read it. I'll see if I can figure out how to answer you privately....there are things your friend needs to know!!!!!

[Black GSD]

Here is another one!!! :evil: :evilbat:

TWO year old Male Rottweiler. The meaner the better. Must be in the area of Central Florida. The dog will NOT be used for protection. The dogs training doesn't matter, but it would be nice if he got along with horses. Dogs more than $1,000 will not be considered.

This is a "want" ad from an online site. What kind of IDIOT is SHE!!!!! :bad-words: :chainsaw1: :snipersmile:

[Guest Anonymous]

:eek2: white dobbies ...... I didn't know that they even existed!

I'm truly lost for words, can't believe that anyone would breed these deliberately! and take advantage of the unsuspecting general public in the manner they obviously are! Oh!! those poor poor dogs, what a troublesome future they have!

I wonder if the pet health insurance would even cover them considering the health issues that they will face. Hmmmm

[Queen Bitch]

Wait Jan aren't those a pair of the rare spotted white dobes with natural ears and tails in your picture?

[bk_blue]

shhhh... everyone will want one!!! :roll:

[Guest Anonymous]

:lol: :lol: :lol: and I thought they had a good disguise

[Queen Bitch]

Funny, here I was thinking that I had owned the only 3 in existance.

Maybe you could put masks on them Jan?

[yellowlabsrule]

I didn't read all the posts in this, but here is one of their "white" dobermans.
Phantom's Prodigy OFA BH TT CGC

[yellowlabsrule]

(looks yellow to me!) :o

[yellowlabsrule]

More of their "white" dogs! :x
Phantom's Wild Thing

Phantom's Wish Upon A Star CGC

These are puppies from Jojo's litter pictured above. They are almost 12 weeks old in these pictures. as well. Check our availability list to see puppies (and dogs)

(does look like a Weim! :o )

[yellowlabsrule]

This is interesting :-? (from their site)

Adoptions

DON'T BREED IF YOU CAN'T RESCUE!!!

*I will be happy to post Dobermans and other dogs/pets in need of adoption. E-mail me with a description and contact information.

For dogs being placed by Whispering Woods Kennel;

Adult adoption fee is $150.00 each and includes all shots, Neg. HWT and spaying/neutering if this has not already been done. (It will be done prior to any placements.) Puppies will be adopted for $150.00 with a spay/neuter agreement, and includes puppy shots and worming. $50.00 will be refunded when proof of spay/neuter has been provided to me at 6-7 months of age.

Contact information and conditions will be listed to the best of our ability for dogs being adopted from other scouces.

ADOPTIONS AND RESCUES;

below are links for contacts on adopting dogs and cats in need of homes.

Please contact me if you may be interested in giving one of these dogs a PERMANANT, loving home. Workdobe@alltel.net OR (706) 779-5506.


Small breed female puppy, part Pekingese and part Jack Russell Terrier. Very friendly, outgoing and well-socialized. She looks like a tiny St. Bernard. She is 2 months old. Vaccinated/wormed. Should mature to about 10-12 lbs. Contact Lysa at Workdobe@alltel.net or call (706) 7799-5506.

White male Doberman pup born 8/15/01, ears cropped/standing, already neutered. This dog DNA tested affected for vWD but had no problems at ear cropping time and is not symptomatic. LNatac@toccoa.com (706) 779-0052.
PUREBRED DOBERMANS AVAILABLE!

CONTACTS;


Contact Shelley Elsberry via e-mail at Syd3278@aol.com
Arda Kuney in Michigan can be contacted at (517) 456-7307 or P.O. Box 573, Clinton, Michigan, 49236 She has a long list of Wonderful Dobies needing loving homes.
Judith Felton DPCA/COPE (770) 971-1533.

PUREBRED SHELTIES AVAILABLE! - Sheltie Rescue of Georgia has some very nice adults in need of permanent, loving homes! Pictures, adoption agreement and contact information on their website.

PUREBRED ROTTWEILERS AVAILABLE! - check out Rottwiellers Reigning Supreme And Rottweilers, Rescued Dogs and Canine Concerns These dogs need homes fast!


Cats and Kittens needing homes! Contact Jennifer's Kitty Rescue at Jrogers38@aol.com Jennifer's Kitty Rescue .

These dogs (and other pets) are in need of good homes and are listed as represented to us. Whispering Woods Kennel does not accept responsibility for any problems or expenses incurred through the adoption of these dogs, nor does Whispering Woods Kennel offer any assurances that these dogs are as represented.

[Nancy B]

[quote name='yellowlabsrule']I didn't read all the posts in this, but here is one of their "white" dobermans.
Phantom's Prodigy OFA BH TT CGC


Did you notice that they've put the "OFA" into the name as though it was a title? This is typical of the albino breeders....trying to make their dogs look as though they've acheived more than they have. If you go to the "White" Dobe club's website I think they have a list of "titled whites". Almost all the titles are CGCs and/or TTs. I'm not knocking the CGCs and TT's but, strictly speaking, they're not titles. A CGC is a Canine Good Citizen certificate that the AKC awards. Any fairly well mannered dog can get a CGC, you don't train for it as you would have to for an obedience title. The TT is, of course, a temperament test evaluation. That's nice to have but, it also isn't a "title". I have no problem with anyone listing a CGC and or TT, heck I do it myself and am proud that it's there but, it's deliberately missleading of them to try to make unsuspecting members of the public think that albinos are competing in performance events and earning titles in proportion to their population. They're not.

I haven't looked at it in quite a few months but, I believe that only 3 or 4 albino Dobes have acheived a title of CD. (AKC Companion Dog, novice obedience title.) That's not too impressive considering how many are out there. There is also one albino rescue that is working with a very good partner in agility. I think that Dobe has acheived a OAJ...that's the open agility jumpers title. (website http://community-2.webtv.net/icefantom/IcePhantomsVeryOwn/ ) I think that's wonderful! I also seriously doubt that albino will ever do as well in the standard agility courses. Standard agility has all the obstacles (dogwalk, teeter, aframe) and jumpers doesn't. The albinos do have visual problems and I think that makes standard agility much more difficult for them.

A number of Doberfolk have also questioned the "BH" claimed on the Dobe you've mentioned. Since there's no central registry, it's pretty easy to claim something that hasn't been earned. Difficult to beleive that an albino got a BH without it causing an uproar at the time.

[Nancy B]

The albino breeders and rescue....it's been interesting. Since albino Dobes have been around a lot of them have wound up in rescue. Some of that is due to poor screening of homes...cases where anyone who has the cash for a Dobe can have it whether they're a suitable home or not. Some of the albinos have wound up there because of their temperament and/or heath problems...unfortunately, quite a few of those are unable to be placed since it's a fundamental flaw in the dog.

For years albino breeders were bashed for taking no responsibility for the dogs they produced. If a dog of theirs wound up in rescue and they were contacted, they would only offer to take the dog if it was intact. Dobe rescue will NOT let any Dobe leave prior to being spayed/neutered. That's a basic policy and, since the albino breeders are already demonstrating a lack of ethics by breeding for albinos, there's no way Dobe rescue would trust them to alter an intact rescue anyway.

I'm not sure exactly when the albino breeders decided to get together and have their own "rescue". A year ago, perhaps a bit longer. I don't know how many Dobes they really do help. They seem to have had no impact on the Dobe arriving in Doberman rescue.