alicat613 Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 I think the site doesn't allow you to remote link. I checked him out, very nice looking...for a Dal... :lol: Just teasing ya! So Seana, the future mom, is not a CH yet? Do they expect her to finish before she is bred? I'm not sure about Dal showing but I know many dogs finish when much younger, so I'd want to know why she hadn't finished yet and why they want to breed her before she is finished. You also mention that her parents are CH, what about the rest of the line? Have you been able to see the pedigree? You mention dad to be is a liver, is it common to breed the two colors across? I did see his pedigree for a couple gens on their site. A good idea might be to find a Dal discussion group and inquire on the lines, what people know about them etc. I do have to say that Seana is about the prettiest Dal I've ever seen! Quote
yellowlabsrule Posted January 5, 2003 Author Posted January 5, 2003 They are hoping to finish her CH at a upcoming show (Jan 16-20). All the dals I've seen in her pedigree have been CH. I think it's pretty easy since there isn't as many dals as other breeds, like a lab. I don't know if it's common to cross a liver and a black. ? I'll ask her. I'm hoping to go up to the show and meet her in person (the dog and the breeder). Here's her latest email to me. ( I had asked her about hips) The last litter of pups I had was in 94 and completely unrelated to Seana and Royce. I've not had any problems with hips in my line, Dals do have some problems but no where near what the labs have. It's not nearly as prevelent in Dals. Our main problems are hearing and renal stones. The pups will be hearing tested and I will give information in the puppy packets about feeding, care and ways to test to avoid renal stones. I rarely breed so when I do, it's done with much research and health is the number one priority for me. (or course, since I'm an RN :) While I am breeding to create show dogs, my theory is show dogs are pets 95% of the time and one must be able to live with them first. So while beauty is certainly a goal, health, temperament and stability are higher priorities. What does this mean? (or course, since I'm an RN :) Quote
yellowlabsrule Posted January 5, 2003 Author Posted January 5, 2003 Here's what she said before about hips. Her mom not being OFA'd is worrying. :-? Seana is entered all five days. Her sire was OFA good, his sire was excellent and dam was good, the next generation were all OFA good except one was not OFA'd or at least not reported to AKC. The dam unfortunately either was not OFA's or at least not reported and not all of her side were OFA'd, those that were (4 out of 7) were OFA good (althou one rating is not listed). She will be bred to "Royce" AM/CAN CH Centura Signature Sidekick http://www.geocities.com/signaturedals/royce.html Quote
yellowlabsrule Posted January 5, 2003 Author Posted January 5, 2003 Oh, thanks K! :oops: :lol: Thanks eggrolyn1223! I think Seana is pretty to. :D Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted January 6, 2003 Posted January 6, 2003 [quote name='yellowlabsrule']Yeah, considering it's my first dal, and what I've heard about them, It would be best for me to get a puppy so I can bond with it, it can trust me, etc. Dogs can bond with humans at any age. I have a 7 year old Rottweiler whom I adopted when he was 3 years old. He easily transferred his loyalty, affection, and devotion over to my husband and me and is probably more enamored of me than is my dog Jael whom I've had since she was 12 weeks old. In fact, in the 4 years I've been doing Rottweiler rescue I have yet to see a rescue dog who didn't bond deeply with their adoptive parents. As an alternative to getting a puppy from a reputable, ethical breeder I would encourage you to consider adopting from a reputable rescue group. Just make sure the rescue puts a strong emphasis on temperament evaluation and placing dogs with appropriate families. If you adopt from a reputable rescue, I think you'll be just as satisfied with your dog as you'd be with a purchase from a reputable breeder. Plus you'll be saving a life! I met a lovely Dalmation this summer at the Astrohall show in Houston. She was a rescue dal who competed in agility and also did therapy work. Their crates were set up next to ours. This sweetie was a wonderfully tempered girl with a great personality and a tremendous work ethic - a true testament to the breed. Rachel Quote
Queen Bitch Posted January 7, 2003 Posted January 7, 2003 Actually Dalmatians (its an a not an o at the end! arg , sorry pet peeve of mine.) do not differ between the liver and the black. You can breed two liver dogs and have a litter of all black spot pups. Liver spotted dogs are less common but there is nothing different about them, so its perfectly ok to breed a liver to a black. Sorry if this, my first post is somewhat convoluted, but sleep depervation seems to be taking its toll! :morning: Quote
yellowlabsrule Posted January 7, 2003 Author Posted January 7, 2003 Thanks! The breeder didn't really answer that question, so I'm glad I now know the answer! Quote
alicat613 Posted January 7, 2003 Posted January 7, 2003 Interesting, so is the liver considered basically a dilute gene? Just wondering, I love all this dog genetics stuff! Yellow, did you ask her (the breeder) why she acquired Seana if the mom wasn't OFA'd? She seems like a good breeder so far, so I'd be interested to know why she chose to get a pup as breeding stock without knowing the moms' results. Quote
Queen Bitch Posted January 7, 2003 Posted January 7, 2003 Thanks Ali, that's the word that was escaping me last night. Quote
yellowlabsrule Posted January 8, 2003 Author Posted January 8, 2003 Just sent her an email with that question now. :D Actually Dalmatians (its an a not an o at the end! arg , sorry pet peeve of mine.) Yeah, when I was first looking around for a breeder, I couldn't figure out why I couldn't find it! (spelled it wrong) Since then I have been careful to not spell it wrong. Did I goof and put a o? Quote
yellowlabsrule Posted January 8, 2003 Author Posted January 8, 2003 Here's what she said. I got Seana because I know the line, I've been watching this line show for years and I've not seen any problems with the hips. Dysplasia is not as much of a problem with Dals (as it is with Labs), not to discount it certainly, but most of her pedigree is OFA'd and I've watched enough of it to know there was no worry. The search for Seana was a very long one, my last pup I bought ended up with rage syndrome so I was very careful in my choice. You'd have to watch Seana play keep away (her favorite game) to know those hips have no problems! That girl can get in and around the tightest corners! I was thinking about your exercise question the other day and thought I shouldn't have given you the idea these dogs are couch potatoes.(althou they are that also!) You'd have to know their personalities so here goes: Roameo: his main goal in life is to snuggle, with anyone. He didn't play as a puppy, he's still more like Eeyore Mickey D: is more like Tigger, he never stops bouncing and playing. I call him my bouncing baby boy. Katie: who has an almost never-ending game of tug-a-war going with Mick or Seana Seana: the keep away queen, catch me if you can! With four dogs, they get plenty of exercise just playing with each other along with running in the backyard. You'll see how well she moves at the show. I'm fully expecting her OFA to be good if not excellent. What days are you coming to the show? Looking forward to meeting you then! Quote
Queen Bitch Posted January 8, 2003 Posted January 8, 2003 Hey yellowlabs....if I may be so bold.....just so I can live vicariously through you......get a liver pup...... 2 of my 3 dals were liver spotted instead of black and were the sweetest dogs ever. Quote
yellowlabsrule Posted January 8, 2003 Author Posted January 8, 2003 But I like black :( Not sure if there will be any livers anyway. Quote
yellowlabsrule Posted January 8, 2003 Author Posted January 8, 2003 I guess I'll think about it. This girl here is up for adoption and she sounds like a darling, but I can't get a dog till june when our grass is grown. :cry: (we just put a manufactured home in our pasture and that's where we're living) It's a bad pic, she is a lot cuter. :D Here's the info on her: Notes: New picture and new name..Zoe. WOW someone lost a great dog! This is a little..and I mean little girl. She is about 43 lbs, and 19" tall. She is about the size of a 6-8 month old dalmatian. My vet has put her age at about 5 years old, so she is done growning. And for those of you that have seen her page before, she can hear, she's a little shy, very mellow, and very quiet. She has gotten along wonderfully with my two dogs (a male Rottie and a female Dal) and is not interested in the cats at all. She likes to be close to you (like right now she is under my desk sleeping) Oh, and the cutest thing, she smiles :-) Dally grins for everyone :-)She is house broken, knows some commands and learning more, very quickly. She is already crate trained, and will sometimes go into her crate on her own for naps. She really likes to snuggle. Zoe would be great in any home, with or without kids or other pets. I really can't say enough great things about this pup! I was wondering...we are thinking about adopting a BC, and then getting a Dal (not sure if a puppy or adoption), and I was wondering if 1. you think that a BC and a Dal and a Lab would get along, and 2. if my 7 year old lab would be unhappy because she has been the only dog for 7 years. ??? Not sure about those if you can help that'd be great! :D Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted January 8, 2003 Posted January 8, 2003 yellowlabsrule napisał(a):I was wondering...we are thinking about adopting a BC, and then getting a Dal (not sure if a puppy or adoption), and I was wondering if 1. you think that a BC and a Dal and a Lab would get along, and 2. if my 7 year old lab would be unhappy because she has been the only dog for 7 years. ??? Not sure about those if you can help that'd be great! :D 1. So long as none of the dogs are dog aggressive or have same sex aggression issues, it should not be a problem. This is certainly something you need to talk to the rescue organization/breeder about though, so they can be sure the dog(s) you adopt or purchase is/are good with other dogs. 2. It really depends on your lab's temperament as to how she will adjust to getting a few permanent friends. If she has a typical labrador temperament and the pups don't pester her to death, I don't think she'll be phased much by the addition of new dogs. Dogs are social animals by nature, so they generally enjoy having someone to pal around with. Of course, as a disclaimer I don't know your dog, so it's a tough call for me to make via the internet as to how she will accept two new dogs. You could talk to your vet or obedience trainer who are probably more familiar with her temperament and see what they think of the idea. Best of luck in your decision, and I for one applaud you for being open to adopting a rescue dog! :D Rachel Quote
Shannon_C Posted February 23, 2003 Posted February 23, 2003 Hm......well lets just say, any dog can be a biter....but this usually depends how they have been bought up in the way of discipline, socializing, love which you get back in return. or there is being teased, abused, neglected which causes the dog to react and turn against human because its knows no other way. (KNOWING HOW A DOG FEELS IS THE KEY) The reason why many dogs bite is fear.....thats there only way of fighting back by using there teeth. Quote
Peng1zrule Posted February 24, 2003 Posted February 24, 2003 Mei-Mei napisał(a):Oh, I forgot to mention deafness in Dals, but I think you already know that. the more white on the ears...the more likely the dog is to be deaf... Quote
yellowlabsrule Posted February 24, 2003 Author Posted February 24, 2003 Actually the more white on the body... :wink: Quote
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