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Glad to hear that he is catching on to giving up his toy so you can throw it.
Are you making SURE that She is going outside before you put her in her crate? Also do you with hold water for an hour or 2 before bedtime? The reason I said are you SURE, is that I used to have a GSP (German Shorthaired Pointer)) that used to "fake it". She KNEW she had to go BEFORE she could come back in the house, so she started kinda squatting WHILE she was running back to the house. But nothing came out. If you caught her and told her to go again, she would. I'm sure Molly is too young for this yet though.

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Well, she didn't pee in her crate last night, so hopefully sh'es getting better. I put up a pic of molly in my avatar. Isn't she cute? I've seen some of the avatars here where they flash different pics. How do I do that? I'd like to have one of both Billy and Molly.

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Adrienne,
I don't know about anybody else but I would never pay $500 for a mixed breed pup ! I think that is outrageous !! I have 2 purebred JackRussell Terriers and I paid $250 for each one from a breeder. I think you got rooked but that's only my opinon , anyone else agree ??
I'm glad though that she is healthy and you love her, she is very cute !!

Debbie 8)

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Actually I think mixed breeds are getting more and more popular. How do you think most of the recognized breeds came about hundreds of years ago? I don't find anything wrong with it, in fact I think some mixed breeds may have better temperments and health. Try looking at www.rainbowpark.ca. They have lots of mixed breeds and look like an ok place to buy a puppy. A girl I work with bought one there and she said it was a great place. I am thinking of getting one there.

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It is not good to buy a mixed breed puppy. Breeders are consantly striving to get nearer they're breed standard and people that produce these mixed breed dogs can cause a lot of problems for breeders. PLEASE do not buy puppies from a person who does this. Other people here can give you more info on why it is wrong.

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Both your dogs look lovely but i have to agree with Debbie you paid a lot of money for a mixed breed ,i have a pure breed parson jack russell but he has short legs not that bothers me i paid

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danyell napisaƂ(a):
Actually I think mixed breeds are getting more and more popular. How do you think most of the recognized breeds came about hundreds of years ago?


You know, I always hear this and it annoys me to no end. Want to know what the difference is?? These new mix-breeders are not striving for anything except the almighty buck. There is no standard that they are working toward so they can get recognized by the AKC. How many years has the Cockapoo been around? It's still not a recognizable breed because all Cockapoos look different. If these people were interested in anything other then scamming money from the unsuspecting public they would be breeding Cockapoo to Cockapoo to create a dog that you could instantly recognize as a Cockapoo. Instead they just take any old Poodle and Cocker and stick 'em together. Some look like Poodles, some look like Cockers, temperments are all over the map, no health guarantees... Gimme a break, they are not trying to be a recognizeable breed. Bucks for Pups all the way.

And to the person who spent $500 on a mix... Why didn't you try a rescue?

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I do agree that small-breed dogs can be hard to find in rescues. In my rescue, they go like lightning! And small-breed puppies are nearly impossible. I can only recall two in five years: both were Pomeranian puppies. One was kept by the volunteer who found her, and the other was adopted about a half-hour after she got to pet adoption.

We were set on getting a Maltese. Any dogs that are bigger than our kitties frighten them, and my fiance has bad allergies. When we babysat a friend's Maltese and she worked out beautifully, we knew that was what we had to have! I looked on Petfinder, but all of the Maltese that were available were either very old, bad with kids (which we plan to have in a few years) or bad with cats.

We talked to a few reputable breeders recommended by the American Maltese Association and a couple of other sites. One told us that she had a mama dog who would be PERFECT for us. Macy had problems delivering her second litter and was spayed after her C-section, so her breeder wanted her to be able to "retire" to a loving home.

We went to meet her and fell in love. She is 5 years old, gorgeous, loving, cuddly and SO friendly. Her pedigree is packed with champions from some of the top Maltese breeders. How much did we pay for her? Just $500.

It's very easy to get taken in when you're looking for a pet, especially a small-breed dog. There are SO many disreputable people out there selling puppies. Getting a pup from a reputable breeder often takes time, legwork and money. (Maltese pups are $1000 to $2000 and the litters are tiny, so you often have to wait awhile.)

Of course, we know you adore your baby girl, no matter where she came from! And I'm sure to you she was worth every penny :) Be aware, though, that her parents probably were not screened for genetic health problems, so you should read up on diseases that occur in shih tzus and poodles so you'll know what to look for, should any develop one day.

Thanks for being so open to our comments. We hope you've learned lots and will help us educate more people :)

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Kiger napisaƂ(a):
danyell napisaƂ(a):
Actually I think mixed breeds are getting more and more popular. How do you think most of the recognized breeds came about hundreds of years ago?


You know, I always hear this and it annoys me to no end. Want to know what the difference is?? These new mix-breeders are not striving for anything except the almighty buck. There is no standard that they are working toward so they can get recognized by the AKC. How many years has the Cockapoo been around? It's still not a recognizable breed because all Cockapoos look different. If these people were interested in anything other then scamming money from the unsuspecting public they would be breeding Cockapoo to Cockapoo to create a dog that you could instantly recognize as a Cockapoo. Instead they just take any old Poodle and Cocker and stick 'em together. Some look like Poodles, some look like Cockers, temperments are all over the map, no health guarantees... Gimme a break, they are not trying to be a recognizeable breed. Bucks for Pups all the way.

And to the person who spent $500 on a mix... Why didn't you try a rescue?


Kiger,
I couldn't agree more wholeheartedly with what you have said. :wink: People are breeding anything these days and trying to pass it off as a "NEW" breed. Bull shit !! :evil:
The problem with that too, is you never know what pups between two breeds are going to look like from one litter to the next. There is NO standard . It is purely $$$$$ money driven !! :evilbat:
I don't know about anywhere else , but when people advertise mixes in the paper they are usually under $50.
I have 2 Jack Russells , both purebreds, one of which is a great standard for the breed, but I NEVER considered breeding her , just because.
I love the breed , but would never just breed for the sheer fun of it. There are too many dogs in rescue and pounds for that. :(

Adrienne,
I'm not putting YOU down, I'm glad you rescued a Jack. :D They are great little dogs. His growling is definitely a dominance issue. :x
As for his size, it's really hard to tell how a dog is going to turn out when they are a mix of 2 different breeds. Is your Jack a Parson Russell or a Jack Russell ?? And then take into account the size of an American Eskimo. It's kind of a wait and see situation. :niewiem:
Both your dogs are lovely and in the future you will be more informed when you go to purchase a dog. :wink:

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:o This may sound daft but i never knew there was a dog called a cockerpoo until i read this thread ,i always class a mix breed dog as a cross or if you know it parents as what ever they where ,like my Kelly-marie her mum was a cross jrt and her dad was a purebreed jrt so she will come out looking like the 2 ,there are so many people making money out of breeding mix breeds whats the point when so many dog in rescue need a home ,i foster puppies all the time from mix breeds to the gsd that got top big or the jrt that yaps to much but its so unfair for these dogs /puppies.Sorry rant over off topic too sorry again. Tracy&gangx

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I don't think you need to attack me for my opinion. I would pay for a cross breed because it is not important to me that a dog be purebred. I didn't say they were trying to make a new breed, you read into that. All I said is that many breeds were created this way. Which is true. I am not suggesting they make a new breed - I think just as breeding a purebred is a passion for some - breeding different dogs to see what kind of attributes it gets, is a passion for others. (Believe me breeders aren't just giving these dogs away -- $$$$) I am not an expert on breeding, but I do have a passion for dogs! It is next to impossible to find a small breed in a rescue or humane society - I'd rather pay 1/2 price for a mix breed than close to 2,000 for a purebred. I would consider getting a mixed breed because I think some of them are very interesting looking and not common. I like the way they all look sort of different. Of course I see the value in keeping a breed pure and proper lineage and all that ... I'm quite open to all dogs and their owners. As long as they play nice! :)

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danyell napisaƂ(a):
(Believe me breeders aren't just giving these dogs away -- $$$$)


And the reputable ones aren't making any money off them either. You can bet the millers sure aren't doing any health checks. And who cares if the parents live in cages their whole lives pumping out puppies so long as people can get their cute, little, fuzzy mixes. :roll:
Not all these mixes are cheaper then a purebred either - how about $2000 for a Labradoodle. People are getting taken to the cleaners.

Here's some reading for you.
http://www.geocities.com/mutts02/designer-mutts.html

Would a responsible breeder deliberately cross dogs with completely different and potentially incompatible physical structures and temperaments? Would they deliberately mix any breeds? No, not when they know the results will be completely unpredictable and that there are already thousands of accidentally bred mixed breed dogs in need of good homes.

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:cry: Kiger i read that site from top to bottom ,i have never come across any dogs like that around here but i bet your bottom dollar that they are out there .i know of 2 puppy mill /farms locally to us i would so love to stop them but how you go about it.???? Tracy&gangxx

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I see lots of small breed dogs listed in the shelters in my area on Petfinder.com, and you can adopt dogs for around $100.

One shelter had a litter of mixed breed puppies (I don't remember what the mixes were), and every puppy looked COMPLETELY different, like they were each a totally different breed.

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