Good Bye Hazel

[Guest Anonymous]

Hazel's aggression has gotten out of control. She bit someone the other night. Denis (the boy she bit) works for his mom at the kennel, so he knows Hazel, but I guess since he was in HER home, she felt more threatened. She bit him, taking quit the chunk out of his hand.
Not only that, but this morning my mom let her out of my room, and Kathy, my cuz came over and Hazel tried everything in her power to get at her.
She's getting way too hard to handle. I've tried everything I can to keep her, and I love this dog with every inch of my heart, I do NOT want to see her go! :cry:
I've been crying for two days now, my eyes are so swollen I can bearly see what I'm writing. This dog has been in my life for only 4 years but she has touched my heart greatly! It's amazing how an animal can do that isn't it?
We're going to try to see if we can find a home for her, someone who needs a gaurd dog you know?
Although it will probably take a long time before she'll even warm up to that new owner. If we can't find one, she will probably have to be distroyed. I'm preying we will find her a good home.
My mom was asking what kind of a dog I would like after Hazel. Sure I'll get another one, I can't imagin my life without a dog, but, it just seems wrong to go out and get a new one after Hazel.
She is my love, my world... my life.
Just thought I'd let you all know, because I probably won't be on here very often.
But, when I do get my new dog (which about a year ago I decided to name my next dog Akila! LOL But I figured I'd be getting that dog for school when I move, at Canada West Canine Center, and that I would still have Hazel :( ), you can expect to probably hear from me again! LOL
This is a poem I wrote for Hazel in Grade 7, when I first got her... It doesn't sound like much, but it truely shows how I feel...

Gold Is Forever, But a Hazel Nut Will Never Break

You are my dreams and goals in one.
Everything you acomplish, I acomplish too.

When they look into your eyes,
They do not see what I do;
For I see my Friend,
Family,
and my Dream Catcher.

Your spirit is never broken,
And your heart is always whole,
You protect me always,
And I shall try to do the same.

[yellowlabsrule]

:cry: Are you sure you can't do anything?

[Guest Anonymous]

I've been begging mom all day, and racking my brain forever trying to think of a way... my mom doesn't want to do it, but she's seriously afraid of what Hazel's capible of. I know she's not a vicious killer, she just doesn't understand. I wish so much I could explain to her that she's going to go, and the only way to stay is if she would stop being aggressive.
:cry:

(I added this)
I've searched everywhere! There aren't ANY behaviorists, and my parents don't want to spend all the money on her to get the tests done...
I've saved up $95, but I don't think it's enough.

[Guest Anonymous]

No matter what you decide to do, we know you have hazels best intrest @ heart. but you don't have to leave us if you don't have a dog. we can help you get through this the best way we know how and that is together.

(this is from bullygirl29532 for some reason this site has been loging me out all day whenever i go to post)

[alicat613]

She really can't be rehomed. Not in her present state, she is a danger and a liability.

I take it this is a sudden thing? What changed? Sudden changes in behavior can and often are medically related. Have you had her checked out at the vet? As was mentioned before, has her thyroid been checked?

[gooeydog]

At 4 yrs old, and with fear aggression issues like she has, you'll have a hard time finding her a good home with someone who will care for her the way she deserves. Likely, you'll have a lot of people that will want her because she's "aggressive", and you'll have to do very careful screening. I'm not sure of the laws in Canada, but here in the US, you can be held liable if you place a dog when you know it had aggressive tendencies. If her aggression is not controllable (not sure if that's even a word?), chances are good that unless the other person somehow manages to keep her completely isolated, there will be another incident. If that does happen, and it's reported, she'll be deemed dangerous and probably be euthanized. Even if they can keep her isolated from people, what kind of life will that be for her (you know her personality, so you need to decide how she'll feel in that situation)? Try to get the money together for the tests, and explain the situation to your vet and see if you can make payments on the tests, etc. Until then (or until she's placed/PTS if the tests come back clear) keep her away from people. When you have someone at your house, she goes in a room and the door is locked. She shouldn't be left out until they are gone (if you need to take her out, have them go into another room, shut the door to it, and walk her outside, then put her back in her room and lock the door again). If you can't find out what's wrong with her, then the best option may be to have her PTS. :(

[eggrolyn1223]

Tell your parents to read these posts.SO they will believe you.I don't know anything about the test, but newfiemom has to be right.Doing the test now could probably save you a lot of money in the long run...and if not the test, going to a behaviorist a little far from your place could work too.. :-? I really hope you don't have to give up Hazel, and please try all you can to keep her.Wish you and Hazel good luck :)

[Carolk9s]

This makes me sick! Another dog headed for death or perhaps a brutal new home due to aggression issues that have been building for some time and no one has done one damn thing to try and find the actual problem. Sorry Shara, if your parents are not interested in saving Hazel's life or a life of who knows what, then the safest thing to do is have her put to sleep humanely. There are people who will smile to your face and say 'don't worry little girl, I'll take care of her and the aggression doesn't worry me a bit'. Then they will try to beat it out of her. Maybe she'll end up on a chain somewhere lucky to get fed and watered now and then.
Sounds horrible doesn't it? VERY real possibility.
Maybe it's time YOU pitched a royal fit about your dog. It is just HER life that is in the balance.
Newfiemom and I have both encouraged you to get her thyroid tested. I realize you are young but perhaps you should wait til you are in a position to financially care for a dog on your own before getting another one.
I have to add, I found your reference to getting a new dog just a bit too glib under the circumstances.
What happens if the next dog needs vet care that your parents don't want to bother with? Dogs don't come with a warranty of perfection.
If anyone thinks I am being too harsh, I do apologize, I am really steamed about this as it happens every damn day to dogs.

[Guest Anonymous]

hazel's been aggressive since she was a puppy, so it's not something suddenly new.
I told my sister about us being responsible even if we relocate her, and she said that that isn't true. She told me that if the person understands about her aggression, and is willing to take her in, it is then THEIR responsibility.
I'm even afraid to talk to my mom about it anymore. She just freaks out on me every time I do! And dad won't say anything, he doesn't want to talk about it!
I seriously can't take it anymore, I'm so stressed out as it is. I took hazel for a walk today, and BAWLED my eyes out 'till my face froze from the tears! I've printed out tones of info on Hypothidroisim, and explained it all to my parents but they STILL don't want to take her in to the vet.
I hate to say it, but I really hate them sometimes. They just don't understand, or are too stuborn to understand, or SOMETHING. Don't want to make it out to look like their the bad guys, I mean their my parents, but it just irritates me so!
I have been searching the net forever for a behaviorist, and haven't found any in my area!
We don't even have a pet store in our town! I don't even think there's one the town next to us! I know there's a Pet Cetira (sp?) in Prince George, which is about two hours away... but we would only go in there for Mice for my sister's snake, which is now moved out with her, so when never go out of our way to go to the place now. And I don't even know when the next time we go to PG is!!

[Guest Anonymous]

I wasn't aware there were problems with Hazel. Have you had her since a pup? Did she have a lot of socialization? and when did she first begin to exhibit these symptoms? I'm sorry to be asking these questions if you've told it all before. A thyroid check is not all that expensive compared to other costs, and neither is a visit to a behaviorist if they can give you some answers and solutions. She may or may not be a fear biter, but I do know a fear biter is one of the most dangerous biters, but unfortunately, it can also be a neurological disorder. I really do feel so sorry for you, but to give her to someone as a "guard dog" is a really bad idea.

This is not meant to slam you or your family, but I am deeply disturbed that your parents won't spend the money for a behaviorist (and your vet can find you one in Canada) and the thyroid testing, but is already asking you what kind of dog you want when that means she's unwilling to spend money to try and see if Hazel can be helped but she's willing to spend money to get you a new dog. I wish you well in this situation, but while placing Hazel will be almost impossible, please don't even consider the guard dog situation.

[Guest Anonymous]

I think all your questions are answered under the "sports and Activities" board titled: "Preformance Dogs!"

[Guest roo]

Hazel, You are in a sad situation here, i feel for you.
As a child your mum and dad will have the final say, and it seems to me that their minds are made up.
Please please do not even try to rehome her.
If they will not pay for tests and you dont have the money there really is not alot you can do about it.
i does seem odd that even as a puppy she has had a temperement problem. And it is getting worse.
How many times has she actually bitten now?
How many times has she tried?
Are you the only person in the house that looks after her?
how old are you?
Awaiting your reply
Roo

[Guest Anonymous]

Jac's thyroid test ran me $30 dollars. It is not much when your are dealing with a life. If there is a problem at least you will know. Do not rehome her. Think of what she could do to someone elses child or just to someone else.

[Hobbit]

CHILDREN should NOT be in charge of nor should they have the sole responsibility of a pet.

If a parent is not willing or unable to properly care for an animal, then they shouldn't allow one in the home. Proper care also includes all medical tests that may be needed, along with training.

I'm not sympathic to YOU, especially since you or your family is willing to kill (or get rid of) Hazel one day and get another dog the next.

I am sympathic to Hazel, at no fault of her own, she'll be destroyed for BEING ALLOWED to act as she has for the past 4 years!

[Guest Anonymous]

Hobbit, I'm not even goin to bother arguing with you, you obviously don't realize I HAVE tried to get her Aggression under control... but that's only ME. That's all I have to say to you.

Thank you everyone else for your input, it means a lot to me.
I asked my dad about the tests again, and he was like "There's nothing wrong with her" and of corse I replied "are you vet?! Do you KNOW THAT?!"

I know that relocating her would be bad. She's completely attatched to me, and even if she wasn't, it would still be hard on her to be placed in a place with people she doesn't know and such. There's only one person I can think of who she would LIKE to be with, that we know, and he likes her, only problem is, he works a lot, so wouldn't have the time for her.

The last thing I want is Hazel distroyed.
My parents are driving me CRAZY! One mintue my dad tells me I can get the tests done on her if it's MY MONEY, and the next he says no! It's MY money, most of which I got for christmas, I could be spending it on clothes and such, but I CHOOSE to spend it on Hazel, to try to help her.
My mom thinks we've tried everything for Hazel, I said we HAVEN'T!!! I told her we haven't tried the tests, or a behaviorist, and she replied that there aren't any behaviorists in this area, and that she doesn't have hypothydroisim.
I was mentally exhausted yesterday, so may not have replied you all well, I'm sorry.
I'm 15 years old.
Hazel's bitten probably about 4 people, including me... but has only broken the skin twice... when she bit me was because I was playing tug of war with her in the dark (because I'm Dumb) so that doesn't really count I guess since she wasn't being aggrssive. The other was Denis, which I told you about.
She's tried to bite, or at least lunged at almost everyone she meets!
It doesn't make sense that she would be aggressive out of poor sociolization now that I think about it... sure we live out of town, and not many people come to visit, but Hazel was in Agility classes starting when she was 6 months old, and for two years after that. I've tooken her to a lot of events, and walks around people.
I do think it would be Hypothydroisim because of this fact... now to convince my parents this... Dad's out of the question because he's STUBBORN! But maybe I can talk to mom, I've been a little scared to because every time I bring up Hazel lately mom just starts yelling at me to drop the subject. :( But I'll try again when she wakes up maybe, I think she's sleeping right now.
I do know my parents love Hazel too, how could anyone live with an animal and NOT love them?
I do agree that a parent shouldn't get an animal for their child, like my neighbor for instance... she's about 11, and owns her dog Duke. Duke is her responsibility, the thing is though, if Duke gets hurt *knock on wood* her parents will take responsibility to take him to the vet and such. That a good system worked out there. That's how it was supose to be with my parents too... I MYSELF prefer to pay for Hazel's vet bills and such, she's my dog, I BOUGHT HER. BUT, I'm not saying I should have FULL responsibilty, 'pecially in a situation like this. As someone in my age, it's not right. I don't have a job, nor can I drive yet. I live under my parents roof, and their rules. Therefore, they should help out with the responsibilties when it comes to things like the Vet and such.
Does this make sense?
I'm in a much better mental mood today, still feel groggy and stuff, but I think today would be better to talk to my parents about it, yesterday if I just said "hazel" I would start BAWLING my eyes out! I haven't cried today, and so I hope things will go a bit better.

Wish me luck please! I'll need it! I'm going to sit down my parents, and FULLY talk to them about it, instead of just every now and then popping up a something about it.

[Hobbit]

[quote name='HazelNutMeg']Hobbit, I'm not even goin to bother arguing with you, you obviously don't realize I HAVE tried to get her Aggression under control... but that's only ME. That's all I have to say to you.




I was not looking for an argument. You did agree that since you do not have a job that you should not be responsible, 100%. That is what I'm getting at.

"I HAVE tried to get her Aggression under control" --- YOU are not a professional, nor do you have the experience to deal with this sort of behavior. Since, you do not have a job --- your parents should be willing to send her to a professional trainer.

[imported_Foster]

Have you thought about finding a place that will take in troubled dogs. I can't remember what breed Hazel is but check out/contact these folks in NY... www.glenhighlandfarm.com

They take in troubled bc's and try to rehabilitate them and if they can't, they will keep them at the farm. If Hazel is not a bc, maybe these folks would know of something similar for her breed...or maybe they could at least find someone that can help you out.

Now to reply to what is going on with the aggression: You are young, tried your best and unfortunately you failed. If she has been like this since she was a puppy, she probably came from bad breeding. If that is the case, there may not be much hope for her to be rehabilitated but you need to do what you can to find someone to help you. Rehoming her is a bad option. It will not solve her problems UNLESS she is sent to a home of with an experienced dog handler who knows how to deal with aggression. Call your vet and explain the situation...your vet might be able to find or know someone that can help, maybe even willing to stop by the house to take some blood...never hurts to ask.

Your parents have right to be upset but if anything, this is more their fault than yours. Unless they were willing to take on full responsibility of a dog, even financially when there are problems, they should not have allowed you to buy a dog. They should have been providing you the resources over the last 4 years to help Hazel out.

I think people need to give you a break. You are trying everything in your power to keep Hazel but your parents are hindering your efforts. Do you have a friend who drives that would be willing to drive you and Hazel to the vets? Of course some of the problems do stem from your lack of knowledge when it comes to dogs. I have read some of your posts regarding how you deal with Hazel's aggression and you have most likely only made it worse without knowing better. At this time, there is no point in pointing fingers though.

Until a decision is made about Hazel, you should not take her out in public or allow her to be in the company of visitors to your house. If worse comes to worse, you may want to discuss buying a muzzle as a short term answer...and no I don't believe in muzzles but sometimes they are needed.

You are in a tough situation for a 15 year old. Try printing out these posts and show them to your folks...

I think it was wrong of your mom to suggest looking for another dog when Hazel is not even gone...if she is sent away or euthanized, you should not get another dog until YOU can afford and have the resources to care for a dog tha may have issues. Or, your parents need to agree to dish out the money and time to help with another dog...I do agree with others that this situation is bad and I don't think you or your parents should even think about getting another dog until EVERYONE is willing to make the sacrifices needed to be a dog owner.

Sorry for rambling but many things in this series of postings are annoying.

[gooeydog]

Another thing you should do is contact her breeder, let him know of her behavior, and find out if there have been any other occurances of aggression problems in his dogs. I think people are right though, that you've waited far to long to take her problems this seriously... if they had been addressed when she was younger, then she wouldn't be so set in her habits and reactions, and you'd likely have an easier time working through the problem. Could you get a part time job (babysitting, paper carrying, etc) to pay for her vet costs? Have any of the bites been reported? I have to say though, that there are worse things than euthanization, and that it's not fair to her to give her to an unsuitable home (either for her or for them), just because you can't stand the idea of her being PTS... keep that in mind when you're considering homes.

[Guest Anonymous]

No, we're not going to rehome her.
But, I made a deal with my mom, to get her tested for Hypothydroisim! If she's got it, mom said we have to keep her on her diet STRICTLY (since she keeps eating cat food, out of the garbage, off plates etc.). My mom doesn't believe in medication, so it's a really tough battle :( . My parents do know all the bits when it comes to Hazel, I've told them everything.
I don't think there's any other bites from her, they havent' been reported anyway.
And I have tried everything in my power, and I haven't done all bad when it comes to her aggression. In the begining it was hard, and things didn't go too well, that's probably why it hasn't gotten much better. And no kidding when I say I can't find ANY Behaviorists in my area! (which includes up to Prince George)! I have been searching, even if I found one, I doubt my parents would want to bring me there and pay for it and stuff.
I've been searching for a job I could do for about a YEAR now!!! I hate this small town, it offers NOTHING. I've been able to get work at my friend's Dad's office sometimes, handing out flyers and stuff, but that's it. I'll be getting a job on the paint crew at Apollo next summmer, but that's jsut it, I have to be 16 to do it, so it can only be next summer.
I've been able to save up 100 bux towards Hazel though.
I don't think my parents are the devil :evilbat: or anything, They're just SO STUBORN!!!!
My mom's actually getting REALLY tired of hearing my talk about it now.
We'll see after the tests, and go from there...

Yeah, Hazel's got BC in her, she's Border Collie + Australian Shepherd.

I did call the breeder not too long ago, he was really surprised to hear that she was aggressive, so I guess there hasn't really been any from him before.

This same thing pretty much happened last summer, when Hazel was hit by a car. My friend and I were out in the yard, I guess I took my eyes off Hazel for a second, but I guess that's all it takes. Her leg was damaged pretty bad, she had problems walking on it for a LONG time. Thankfully I guess the Gods were on her side, she healed up great, but my parents REFUSED to take her to the vet. When it first happend I was freaking out because our last dog was hit by a car and he died (he followed my neighbor up to the school... he was deadly afraid of cars, but I guess he was crossing the road on the corner and a gravel truck hit him :( ) I told my parents she could even have internal bleeding, my dad just replied "what's the point of bring her all the way to the vet, and paying all that when she's just going to die anyway then?" After that, when it was obvious she didn't have internal bleeding, I'd beg my parents to bring her to the vet for her leg and they STILL wouldn't!!! Dad just said "why waste the money of just bring her to the vet so he can tell us it just needs to heal?" I don't get it!! They've had dogs before, my mom was even guna show our Newfie WAY back in the day, they know enough about a dog to take it to the vet when it's hurt or sick, so WHY WON'T THEY?!?!
If *knock on Wood* this all doesn't go well, and we have to put down Hazel :cry:, yeah, I'd like to get another dog sometime after. I can't live without a dog, but NOT if my parents are still going to be like that. There's no way I could go through it again, or worse, put the dog through it.

[Carolk9s]

Geez Shara, almost wish you did not mention Hazel getting hit by a car and your parents refusal to take her to a vet! I may have to duct tape my fingers together so I won't say what I think of that!!
Ok, took a few deep breaths, can't change what happened.
This is long folks so I apologize for any mispellings or grammatical errors!
I would love to be able to offer you some training help but will tell you up front I am far from a pro. One idea that came to mind is for you to work hard on REDIRECTING Hazel as a situation that even MIGHT cause her to feel defensive, aggressive, whatever. I think you are down to last ditch efforts here.
BTW, if she does have trouble with her thyroid, diet ain't gonna fix it. However, now that I understand her aggression has ALWAYS been an issue, I am not as sure as before that her thyroid is at issue.
Anyway...
Does she respond well to food treats? Do you have a clicker? If possible, get one. Wherever you were doing agility with her should have them.
What I suggest is to work alone with her so that she associates the clicker with a treat and a calm 'good girl'. I don't know if you are an excitable type but if so, you will need to be calm and collected with her to help her stay the same. Practice obedience such as sits, downs and stays using the clicker and a food treat. Start by rewarding small successes but the goal is for her to FOCUS very tightly on you. Use a LOOK command. I use LOOKIE as it rolls off the tongue better. Start out with NO distractions, as she learns, add SMALL distractions and slowly progress to bigger ones. Eventually, put Hazel in a sit/stay ON LEAD, in the house. Ask your mom to walk in the room and simply stand still at least a few feet away. Tell Hazel to LOOK or whatever word you have chosen for this. Above all, BE CONSISTANT. If Hazel immediately looks at you or if she does not take her eyes off of you, click and treat. If she does not look at you, say her name and repeat the command. DO NOT GET EXCITED OR RAISE YOUR VOICE, STAY CALM. Stand still, you want HER doing the work. As soon as she looks at you, click. If she holds eye contact, click AND treat. Repeat this often until she as most briefly glances your mothers way. (I am hoping here that your mom will be willing to help, if not, I'm sorry)
Ask dad to do this too. Persist and practice! She's had 4 years to get so defensive, it will take some time to redirect her. If she gets up when mom or dad comes in the room, calmly say NO and then LOOK.
This is just step one, if you think you want to try this out, please let me know how it works and we will discuss step two. This may take a week or two for you to really see results. You must see some solid success before you can even think of moving on to step two.
You can pm me if you'd like. I would like to you do that in fact and tell me if/how Hazel is disciplined whenever she growls, snaps whatever. I PROMISE YOU I will not flame you or jump up and down and holler no matter what. I need to know, it may be the way she is disciplined is ADDING to her insecurity. Be honest with me and I will try to help, again I WILL NOT yell at you about this, I will simply tell you if I think the method of discipline is adding to the problem and try to offer alternatives.

[wildbunch]

ATTENTION HAZEL READ ASAP:

Have been doing the research as fast as possible for you.
Okay here goes (will post more as I get them)
Follow this link and fill out the form for Behaviour Problems, this woman is located in Canada and willing to assist via e-mail with Aggression Problems. I am still looking for someone in your area. Please don't give up on her yet, she's just confused.
http://www.itsmysite.com/cgi-bin/itsmy/go.exe?page=15&domain=1&webdir=K9Care
If it doesn't work for some reason go here: http://www.itsmysite.com/K9Care/

Here are links to various trainers in British Columbia and Prince Edward. At least contact them and tell them of your dilemna (sp?). Maybe we can find someone with an open heart who will assist you for Hazels sake.
http://www.canadogs.com/Need_a_Trainer.htm#BC

I'm still looking would help if I knew exactly where you live. Please respond with the info and I'll keep doing the research.
I apologize for taking so long in my response, I pray I'm not too late.

[wildbunch]

Also e-mail these folks and let them know you're a child and need immediate assistance or the dogs life may be at stake.
k9care@thedoghousemail.com
Inault@direct.ca
pcantass@georgian.net

Ask them if they can help or if they know of anyone in your area who can assist. If you feel nervous about doing this PM me and I will write the e-mails for you.

[wildbunch]

I hate to be judgmental but how could they? Would they refuse to take you to the doctor after having been hit by a car! What a horrible thing.
Our malamute Willow fell out of the truck and had tremendous damage done to the muscles in his hind legs. He was paralyzed for two weeks after the accident. He would get aggressive if any one touched him anywhere near the hind end. Snapping and growling. This was 2 years ago. We have worked through the problems with perserverance and a knowledgable trainer. The damage cannot be corrected to the muscles however and we've had to work on the mental impact. He will lightly grumble if someone touches his back legs but will not snap or bare fangs.
We do muzzle him when at the vets for the safety of the vet and Willow.
Recently we started having problems with his neck. 2 years later the accident rears its ugly head once again. They feel it's damaged cartilage in his neck. We are going to have x-rays done just make sure there aren't any fractures that were unvisable in the x-rays after the accident.
So as you can see the damage can continue to plague you and your animal for years. With Hazels aggresion I can definately see this being a pain reaction. Poor thing. So your next step is to see the vet and continue to search for a behaviour trainer.
Speak with your vet about the payment problems. You never know! Maybe the vet will be kind enough to see your dilemna. When I was 15 I rescued an abused sheltie, my parents and I agreed that if I rescued her I would responsible for her care. She had severe problems mentally and physically. She was a fear biter. Once bit my dad on the arm drawing blood. I worked in the neighborhood doing chores for everyone and made enough money to take her to the vet for exams. We found that 2 of her teeth had rotted and had to be removed as it was causing severe amounts of pain. All my life I had collected Breyer Horses, I sold every one of them and my prized english saddle to pay for the surgery. And it was so worth it. Now mind you I went into this knowing full well that I was responsible for every bit of her care and would have to work hard and give up alot to have her. I paid for most of the surgery and the rest I worked off volunteering at the vet clinic. I cleaned runs and the offices. It worked out very well. I loved Buttons so much and I had to take it upon myself to save her from the breeder. She was overbred and had never been out of the tiny kennel. After recovering from the surgery I set out to find a behaviour trainer. I again set out working at anyplace I could find. I found a wonderful woman who in one session gave me a plan to work from. We did revisit her a couple of times. After 6 months Buttons was becoming a real family companion. After her recovery I decided it would be in her benefit to find her a suitable home. I didn't want her to become attached solely to me as I knew that eventually I would leave for college. I found the most wonderful woman who lived alone with her daughters sheltie. Over the period of a month she met Buttons in several settings and situations. I wanted to be sure that Buttons was comfortable with her. Dell and I are friends to this day. Of course Buttons has passed over the rainbow bridge. But she led such a happy life in those final years. It was worth the struggle, pain and hard work. I would do it all again in a heart beat.
So the moral is if you really want to save your Hazel you need to get out there and do as much as possible. She is worth saving. Talk to your vet, neighbors whatever you have to do.
I'm sure my parents would have assisted me if the need arose but I worked my ass off and saved one animal from being abused or euthanized. You can do it. You just have to set your mind to it.

[Guest Anonymous]

Okay, I had to pull the duct tape off my mouth and my fingers and start to type.

I did have compassion and still do for Hazel, but I'm having more and more doubts about the authenticity of the post. If the poster and the post are indeed authentic, I would have to wonder that although the aggression has always been there, being hit by a car and not being seen and checked out by a vet could've caused neurological damage which can only continue to escalate. That being said, I know that dogs can get out even though closely supervised and get hit, but letting a dog roam on its own is idiotic, and then to have had one hit and killed & let another out loose even though one is nearby is idiotic which leads me to wonder why one would ever contemplate getting another dog which will never have medical attention.

[Guest roo]

Maybe the no medication thingy is something to do with religion :-?

Hazel, use the links wildbuch has found for you.
If in the end you have to have her put to sleep,
please dont get another dog for a while.
Wait until you are old enough to have the real say so into things like
vets etc.
I really do not feel that a dog in your current surroundings with your familys views is a good idea.
Thats what i think anyhow.
Keep us up to date with progress.
Roo