Guard dogs

[alicat613]

Thanks for your response.

Agreed, a mastiff can be aggressive, like many dogs, when left outside, neglected and not properly socialized.

I took your post to mean they are aggressive dogs by nature. Mastiffs, like many of the giant breeds are very sensitive creatures in need of love, attention, training so they understand how to behave, socialization. Without these, many breeds can become aggressive out of anger, fear, distrust and whatnot, destructive out of irritation, loneliness, and boredom.

Some breeds might not have such adverse reactions to living a more solitary life or being kept outside, but I do not believe any animal should be treated that way. No matter what breed you have, it should be loved, well cared for, trained and socialized, be it a Chihuahua or an English Mastiff.

However, as a Dane fanatic, I still disagree with your overall comments on them.

[Guest Anonymous]

It is interesting to see that we do agree on some points though. I too like Danes for a while I was infatuated with them the size the power and th over-all regality(is that a word?). I have just found that the Dane as a breed has lost some luster, not all there are individual dogs that hold the charm, but over al lthey have bred the fire out of them.

I can understand the defense i am the same way when someone talks bad about my babies. Please understand no offense is intended.

oh and a side not to Mei-mei By ream I meant that instead of bunting the guy for wanting a guard dog, tell him all the work that goes into making a dog that can guard, there is a huge difference. A guard-dog you ca nsimply chain in the back yard for a few years and then let it go into a fence it will be so mean and unsocialble it will guard, against everything and everyone. THis is what people are doing to the beloved ABPT.

Now a dog that guards is trained socialized and is very well behaved in the event that a defense is neccesary the dog will either sense it or be commanded to react accordingly. A dog that can guard can be in the home and play with your kids a guard dog is an outside animal or must be pu away when company comes over.

You see.. by just telling them what they want they realize thats its not what they want. I had no idea I was being interpreted as a judgemental dope. (my fault)

[Guest Anonymous]

I personnaly know breeders now, as in currently at this time that still reffer to thier dogs a french matiffs, most people are not familiar with the dogues proper name I was actually attempting to keep it simple. But you make a good point I guess that was kind of like what your doing to me right now making an assumption based on nothing. I Apologize for that I should not have assumede that he wouldnt knw the proper breed name. However I would like to point out that you are being somewhat offensive at this point. I am not a loud nor obnoxious person so im not going to fight with you but if you would like to have a calm and rational conversations about any breed of dog, please lets do it. But leave the insults at home because here is not he time nor the place.


FRiends?

[Guest Anonymous]

I personnaly know breeders now, as in currently, at this time that still reffer to thier dogs a french matiffs. in fact run a search on any search engine you would like ad try to count the number or sites that you find. Most people are not familiar with the dogues(douge was a typo) proper name I was actually attempting to keep it simple. Also the Neo is a very popular dog based on a VERY common breed trait, THEY DO NOT LIKE STANGERS. hence they are aloof and due to thier size dangerous, they are also in much the way peopleuse APBTs. Not to the extent due to a very high price tag but there are thugs out there that have 2 and 3 houses so they do indulge themselves. But you make a good point I guess that was doing kind of like what your doing to me right now making an assumption based on nothing. I Apologize for that I should not have assumed that he wouldnt know the proper breed name. How many people still call them the Turner and Hooch dogs? I was trying to make it easy.

However I would like to point out that you are being somewhat offensive at this point. I am not a loud nor obnoxious person so im not going to fight with you but if you would like to have a calm and rational conversations about any breed of dog, please lets do it. But leave the insults at home because here is not he time nor the place.


FRiends?

[Guest Anonymous]

It seems to me that we just cannot be on the same side of the fence on things, huh? I am not sure what the deal is Do I threaten you? I am here to discuss dogs, I like to talk about dogs. Not be called on typos (are you really that bored) and prompted to resond in a forcefull manner(those PMs were very childish). If you can act proper, prove it. Now i am more that willing to speak to you and everyone else and share what knowledge I have collected. I have all day Literally in which to research and put forth the best possible answers to any questions. As for actin holier than thou, I try to let it be known that i am a wealth of information as far a dgos go, at NO time did i say i know more than K does or anything to that effect. I am simply stating that there are things that i know either by first hand experience or bybook study, and if a person asks for input, and I know the answer i will share, I dont share information that is half true or make opinionated guesses. I love all dogs and yeah that at times means i have to slam some of them when asked temperment and behavioral questions but hey its the truth

[Guest Anonymous]

It seems to me that we just cannot be on the same side of the fence on things, huh? :agrue: I am not sure what the deal is Do I threaten you? I am here to discuss dogs, I like to talk about dogs. Not be called on typos (are you really that bored) and prompted to respond in a forcefull manner(those PMs were very childish). If you can act proper, prove it. Now i am more that willing to speak to you and everyone else and share what knowledge I have collected. I have all day Literally in which to research and put forth the best possible answers to any questions. As for acting holier than thou :evil: , I try to let it be known that i am a wealth of information as far a dogs go, at NO time did i say i know more than K does or anything to that effect. I am simply stating that there are things that i know either by first hand experience or by book study, and if a person asks for input, and I know the answer i will share, I dont share information that is half true or make opinionated guesses. I love all dogs and yeah that at times means i have to slam some of them when asked temperment and behavioral questions but hey its the truth as i have found it to be.

[alicat613]

Everyone, go hug your dogs, be happy.

[Guest Anonymous]

I see, I... was harrassing, you? whatever, I agree lets just let it go, okay.
Bygons are bygons, the past is the past. You seem to have lots to say on the site and i am interested in reading into your posts in the future. Perhaps we will bring together some good conflict , that spawns a new train of thought and possibly some new ideas

:drinking: Here is to you... Cheers! :drinking:

[bk_blue]

I'll drink to that :drinking: :drinking: :drinking: :drinking: :drinking:


Let's party!!!

[Guest roo]

Well thank goodness thats settled down. :o
I needed a drink after reading through it about 7 times :roll:

To our new member. welcome.
I just feel i have to say here, i think the fact that you have proclaimed yourself an expert on dogs :lol: is what has upset a few people.
I did notice in another post of yours you have 3 dogs the oldest being 2yrs
if this is your first dog of your own i do not know.
Learning and collecting info is good, sharing it is good. but you cannot learn everything from a book or the internet, real life experiences teach us so much more than is written :lol: Everyone has different opinions, we all see things differently, we do not always agree with each other, but, debates are or can be good too. I personally found your comment
If there is one thing that I do know its dogs, I study all breeds all ages all sizes, all registries, I spend as much time as possible learning everything I can about dogs, they are a passion for me, WHile I dont breed them or sell Them I know as much if not more than the average breeder does, and because i dont have a particular breed that I favor I know about them all. offensive, immature and aggressive :lol:
But i can live with it. I myself am a dog owner, breeder, show person, and judge or more than one breed and would never ever make such a statement without asking for a kick up the bum and shake back to reality.
Anyhow, welcome again.
Roo :evilbat:

[Guest Anonymous]

I think you guys are reading to deeply in my statement, by that i simply meant that. I have no favorite breed. I wasnt bashing breeders or judges, or owners, or hobbyists. I have found that MOST (not all) breeders can tell you tons about thier dog of choice but stammer and stutter when confronted about another, its a kind of tunnel vision. They are fixated on that breed and feel that the others simply cant compare. I simply was saying that I dont have a breed preference, I love them all i like to read about them and study them as well as talk to people who own them. I also agree with your statement about books and life, there are some things that I have gone through that are simply not covered in any book on any breed. That is where boards like this come in I am here to learn more and to share what i can. I am not the almighty god of dogs or anything like that. And if that is how i came off, OOPS, my bad. :oops:

By the way these are not my first dogs; just my favorites....So FAR

[Guest roo]

I am sure you will enjoy it here :lol:
Roo :evilbat: