how smart can a dog be?

[Guest Anonymous]

eric napisał(a):

Nah, they're probably just looking at you thinking "Why don't *YOU* get it" or "I'm fine here, I don't want to go over there". :D

gigishiba napisał(a):

eric napisał(a):

I seem to remember reading somewhere that dogs are one of the few animals that understand pointing, i.e: when you point to something they look in that direction....

My dogs don't understand that. They just stare at me like, HUH??? :oops:

:lol:

[Guest Anonymous]

Mine don't. We've been trying to teach them Mommy Kisses.. Kenzo knows Daddy Kisses and Go get Daddy and Daddy's home...but when "daddy" says to him "give Mommy kisses" and points at me, Kenzo kisses HIM! :roll:

[Guest Anonymous]

Kenzo will go to the ball and then run back to us with out it! :roll:

[Hobbit]

Bensam napisał(a):

I guess this is what I am getting at. Back in the days when I had Affies, they were the hardest dogs I had ever come across to TEACH anything to, but to live with them and see the way they could work out things for themselves was incredible. There were just so many instances about different things that it was past coincidence. They were a wild pack hound originally and I have seen them work in their unique way with a snake bailed up, seen them work together to open a gate, had one show me where a pup had got out and tracked it. Just so many things, but 'sit, stay' not on your life!

Maybe they see no need for such things as "sit, stay". What is the purpose (their thought)? :wink:

[Hobbit]

I could tell you guys lots of stories that are amazing, but they are long and would be a book.

My personal belief, from experience, is that many dogs are extremely intelligent. Their breeding depends on the level of intelligence in some instances. Poor breeding vs good breeding is what I'm talking about. Good breeding, not necessilary meaning *champion this and that* and several lines of inbreeding. I'm talking about selecting for intelligence over *looks*. Anyway, that's another topic altogether.

I've seen to many instances where the dogs saw a problem and acted accordingly (worked it out).

Too many people and most of the scientist have the attitude that a dog is JUST A DOG and nothing more. They think they have no emotions, no feeling, no sadness, no happiness --- they are only hormonally driven machines. These people have never lived with dogs on a daily basis, they only see them for a few short minutes a day to record their findings on a piece of paper ("oh, Fi Fi, remembered to look underneath the cup for her treat" :roll: )

[Guest Anonymous]

Hey Sasha and Gigi they are thinking if you want it that bad go get it... :lol: :lol: :lol:

He he he

[Guest Anonymous]

[quote name='Jacsmom']Hey Sasha and Gigi they are thinking if you want it that bad go get it... :lol: :lol: :lol:

He he he

That is EXACTLY how mine are.... :roll:

[Guest Anonymous]

Hobbit napisał(a):

.....Too many people and most of the scientist have the attitude that a dog is JUST A DOG and nothing more. They think they have no emotions, no feeling, no sadness, no happiness --- they are only hormonally driven machines. These people have never lived with dogs on a daily basis, they only see them for a few short minutes a day to record their findings on a piece of paper ("oh, Fi Fi, remembered to look underneath the cup for her treat" :roll: )

And then there is me...who thinks that dogs are actually smarter than humans....

[Guest Anonymous]

Kenzo would rather have a rock than a ball any day.

If we throw rocks in the yard for him to chase he goes freakin' NUTS!

[Guest Anonymous]

Lily says, "Alright now, here's the deal, throw it once and I will return it....throw it again and it ceases to my problem and becomes more of an emotional issue for YOU.....since obviously you are throwing away something you want.....makes no sense, you don't need a dog you need a therapist".....really, she says that. :lol:
Val says, " :o Oh you threw the BALL! YAY, lemme go get it....over and over until my arm falls off from exhaustion and then it is, "Hey Mom, don'tcha wanna throw that BALL??? Come on Come on throw it already....who really loves ya now? I don't see Lily or that damned cat wanting to fetch for you.....treats right? I get treats now? and none for those shirkers!!".....really she says that. :lol:

Later,
Trinity

[eric]

Before we got Zeke I was sort of interested in resuing a greyhound. I spoke to a person at this particular greyhound rescue place and they told me that greyhounds *cannot* be made to come on command. I had never heard of a dog that couldn't be trained to come.

[quote name='StarGaze']Dogs are far more intelligent than most people think. It's amazing how much they pick up on when we're not paying attention...like Deep's example.

While at the shelter not long ago some fools came in asking the woman at the desk if they give the dogs away for free and if they have any Pits. They seriously thought they could come in, grab a Pit, and leave...no questions asked. Well, later they walked into the dog room and up to a Boston who promptly tried to bite them. The Boston loved everyone else there. I don't believe they reminded him of someone from his past (but guess it's possible), I think he just knew right away they were bad news.

Sighthounds are not the type to follow orders, only requests. :lol: They were bred to think for themselves, not be told what to do. I think Afghans come off as not so smart because of that, not to mention they are such clowns. They will do anything for a laugh. Sebastian would walk on his hind legs and "woo, woo, woo" talk...just to crack us up. I'm not talking briefly either, he would seriously walk around.

Connie

[Guest Anonymous]

Gracie has an extremely fast sit and recall (wish there was a way to show it)...very reliable too. There is still risk though, I don't recommend having sighthounds off leash.

Being firm, but very kind (sighthounds are really soft--dirty looks hurt their feelings), and using food/praise rewards gets wonderful results.

Most sighthounds can't be trusted with cats or small animals, but that doesn't mean some can't learn to accept critters. I've had small critters and sighthounds at the same time--I do now.

Connie

[eggrolyn1223]

gigishiba napisał(a):

And then there is me...who thinks that dogs are actually smarter than humans....

Me too!!And dogs are definitely better than humans in personality. :D

stargaze,you can record Gracie on videocam :) I'd love to see how fast she does it.. :o

[Guest Anonymous]

Good idea Egg!!! They are pretty cheap too, aren't they? I'm not good w/computers though...how would I go about showing it??? Thanks! :D

Connie

[eggrolyn1223]

Well...I think you just record it, then...I dunno...is there som kind of digital videocam?But those must be expensive :o I think you should ask some of the more experienced people.. :lol:

[Guest Anonymous]

You're talking about those things (live cams or whatever they're called) for computers, right??? I would ask Mike he knows tons about computers, but everything that comes out of his mouth is too techie and so boring--I'd rather ask Reed. :lol:

(sorry, that's mean & uncalled for...the devil made me do it :wink: )
Connie

[eggrolyn1223]

Yea I know what you mean about techie talk. :wink: My dad does it all the time.He's a computer maniac.Can't live without them. :lol: Or you could call a professional to do it..LOL..Oh, the time and money.It would be really cool if we could see Gracie though. 8)

[Guest Anonymous]

All I know is that i think i have out smarted my dogs and have kept them out of something.. I learn WRONG!! They all ready have it.....