Trends...

[gooeydog]

I find it a little disturbing to see the trends in the pit bull breeds... it seems everyone wants either a huge dog, or one so short and stocky that it looks more like an English Bulldog than a pit bull (don't get me wrong, I think EBs are adorable dogs, but years of breeding for extreme looks rather than ability to function have made them rather "un-athletic", and the pit bull breed's main characteristic is athleticism). Look at the dogs on these sites...
http://mobsterpits.com/index.htm
http://www.southtownpits.com/home.htm
http://www.goodfellakennels.com/home.htm

One of the dogs on third site is supposedly 16.5" tall and 85 lbs... is it just me or is that a little disproportionate? Goo is 21" tall and about 58 lbs (she's not fat, but not underweight either). I know there are differences in structure in pit bulls, but people like this are breeding for things that are detrimental to the breed, as well as the dogs themselves. The short muzzles one breeder advertises, the big heads they all advertise, and the touting of certain colors as "rare" or "special" are not in any way things of great importance to the breed. They're supposed to be proportionate and athletic, not short and fat. :roll: I love the way that one the "white dogs" page of the first site, they wrote, "Of course like in any white breed you must remember that sometimes a few do come out hard of hearing, but we can guarantee that there is no other kennel in the world that can compete with our Solid Whites!" :o And if the "silver" dogs are technically "blue", then why do they have pink skin/noses? :roll: I can't believe they charge $1000-$5000 for their dogs, but it's actually a little amusing to think that people will pay that much for them. Of course, you'd think that with them making that much money, they could afford to do at least some health tests, and maybe offer more than a 2-day guarantee :x

[Hobbit]

OMG --- Mobsterpits --- ridiculous. I loved their spill on the "rare exotic" silver. It took them YEARS of selective breeding to create the right chemistry ..... and the color is extremely difficult to produce.

SO FUNNY, because this "rare" color --- first, is NOT rare --- it is caused by a dilution gene and can be "created" in one litter, if they knew what color to breed to what color and what those colors contained!

The whites ---- geez.

:roll: :roll:

[Hobbit]

Let's see Southtown Pits --- one male's head is bigger around than he is tall. :-?

The females are being bred at a year old (probably their first heat cycle). :evilbat:


They are all short, squatty bodies --- and I would think too much mass for such a small bone structure (legs). Asking for elbow and joint problems.

[gooeydog]

it is caused by a dilution gene and can be "created" in one litter, if they knew what color to breed to what color and what those colors contained!

But they don't know. They probably think they have to keep breeding light blue dogs to each other to get the "silver" color, and so they think it has taken years to produce. That's probably part of the reason they aren't able to produce them regularly. I've seen dogs advertised as having 28" heads and being 17" tall... with that type of structure (of lack of), the dogs probably can barely move. Of course they're popular though, because people think that the bigger (chunkier, more mass) the dog's head is, the harder/better they can bite (even though exactly the opposite is true). And as long as they can walk 1/2 a block, their hips and elbows are fine :roll:

At the Goodfellas site under male pitbulls the dog named Gino looks as though he has some raw scarring on his chest. Can anybody else see this?

I saw it, but it looks like either rub from a harness, or maybe he's broken out because of allergies (blue pit bulls are notorious for having skin problems).

[Guest roo]

:o :o
the monsterpits site,
what wonderful language :roll:
Obviously the best known word is
f###
:o :o

[Rowie-the-Pooh]

:o How horrible! The bodies are sooo short and squatty and YUCK! :o

Tut Tut...........Gino(sorry) is disgusting! He is sooo short! YUCK! APBT are supposed to be tall, not squatty! DUH! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Gooey is a great example of a APBT, they should be breeding for HER kind, not squatty, health problem dogs! :cry:

I can't get on the Mobster sight and am glad.....if thier lang is the one like Roo discribed, they shouldn't even HAVE dogs! :mad:

Poor APBT...and others who are bred for size, not quality... :cry:

[Rowie-the-Pooh]

Oh yeah, is this female's color right? It looks like a Beagle's coloring(I'm not saying she is one!) but she has GOT to be from a breeding gone wrong or a mix or som'n like that... :o


http://www.southtownpits.com/Precious.htm

:-?

[gooeydog]

[quote name='Rowie-the-Pooh']APBT are supposed to be tall, not squatty!
Well, not so much tall... they are supposed to give an impression of strength and athleticism, which means they should look imposing, but not imposing to the point that it compromises their structure/movement.

Gooey is a great example of a APBT, they should be breeding for HER kind, not squatty, health problem dogs! :cry:

Goo isn't the best example of a pit bull either :wink: ... she's more "terrier-ish" than most, although a lot of gamebred/performance dogs tend to lean more towards the "terrier side" than toward the "bully side". Actually, I've had people tell me that there's no way Goo is a pit bull, because they're so used to seeing the short, dumpy dogs around here that they don't even realize those are not what a pit bull is supposed to be. She also doesn't have the most stable temperment, and a stable temperment is (IMO) at least as important in a pit bull as structure. There are great looking dogs with horrible temperments, just as there are hideous looking dogs with wonderful temperments. That's why pit bulls have such a problem... most buyers look for a dog that looks tough/impressive/mean/whatever else, not considering the dogs' actual structural/mental soundness, and some may even want a dog with an unsound temperment, so there's no incentive for breeders to "produce" (I really don't like using that term for dogs, but it's the only thing I know of that fits :x ) sound dogs, unless they are doing so for the good of the breed, which most aren't.

Oh yeah, is this female's color right? It looks like a Beagle's coloring(I'm not saying she is one!) but she has GOT to be from a breeding gone wrong or a mix or som'n like that...

APBTs do come in tri-color, but I don't it's an acceptable color for showing (I don't know for sure about that though). The tri-colors can be either blue, white, & tan; or black, white, & tan.