This is absurd

[Guest Anonymous]

While looking through adverts for a Dogue De Bordeaux puppy I found adverts which had puppies born from Dogues crossed with Neo's, Bulldogs and Rottweilers. As I looked at the bottom of the adverts they wanted

[mouseatthebusstop]

If people will pay they will charge it. I have heard of those pupies going for OVER

[Guest Anonymous]

Big tough dogs always go for high prices. I know people that sell dogue de bordeux males for

[deepseasnake]

just for science, could you post that site, I would like to take a look at them

[Hobbit]

There is an ad for "Bassadores" - Bassett/Lab cross, in the newspaper. People will do anything for money!

[Rowie-the-Pooh]

:o Iv'e heard of Mutts(probably taken from the pound) and then bred with other mutts to produce a mutt hey sell for $1000! They say these dogs are a "NEW" breed and that they have "EXELENT" temperment! :evil:

WHAT HAS THE WORLD COME TO???????????????? :evil: :cry:

[bk_blue]

Now that is weird... a Basset/Lab cross. I hope the poor Basset didn't do his back in while doing the Lab! :wink: (though I guess the Lab was probably the male, had to make a joke though).
The same thing is happening here, not so much with big dogs but little ones eg. Maltese, Shitzu, Westie, Yorkie... Stupid people get ripped off by horrid for-profit "breeders" (though how anyone breeding mongrels could be termed that!), buying what they could get at the shelter for practically nothing, and they would be SAVING A LIFE in the process instead of supporting these irresponsible people. As long as there is a market for these cockapoos, maltipoos (or whatever), they will continue to be bred. :evil: :evil: :evil:
It is ok to pay top dollar for a champion dog, that's expected because of all the work that goes into ensuring the betterment of the breed, in fact all pedigreed dogs should be bred for "show quality" and not "pet quality". But to pay the same amount for a deliberate crossbreed is appalling. People who do that piss me off big time. :evil:

[Guest Anonymous]

OOOOHHHH here is a good one a LABRADOODLE ....going price $1600.00-$1800.00!!!!!! I do not get it... But if people pay it then they will keep selling them... Supposedly they have no genetic problems and are hypoallergernic (sp?)... Well they cannot guarantee what coat you are going to get for one thing.... curly or straight..... So therefore who knows if it sheds or not.... And the genetic problems show up in the second generation not the first.....
Makes me sick!!!!!!! :x

[bk_blue]

That is an obscene amount of money to pay for a genetically unstable mutt. I am in shock.
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: (this little fella is getting a big workout today!)

[deepseasnake]

well, just as the devils advocate here I wanna throw something out,

didn't all breeds more or less start out like this, change the motive that is, like with the whole Bullboxer thing, that was a good Idea, maybe some of these people have good intentions in their "new" breeds. dont get me wrong, it is still outrageous to charge these prices. But to be honest since I heard about the whole bullboxer thing, I've been REALLY curious if there is a Boxer/AB mix out there, what an awsome dog that would be! I could easily see someone paying in excess of 1000 dollars for one of these. Provided all the quircks were worked out, and that the dog came out the way I am imagining, that is :lol:. Also I read about those Ori peis, pug/shar pei (I dont know how that is even possible) but supposedly they have "fixed" alot of skin and eye problems in both breeds. I'm not saying all they speak is truth I'm just saying someone out there at least tried for a good thing. Its not the creator's (I hate to use that term :roll:) fault that the money vampires got a hold of one and is now marketing it at 2000$. I've read the same thing about golden-doodles. Again I'm not condoning the actions of these "sellers" they sound like any other puppy mill. But it seems like some of these cases might have been for benevolent reasons :D

[Gordonmom]

OK, I'm really going to give these people the benefit of the doubt.

What if this situation was looked at with the idea that they are looking out for the best interests of their puppies.

For some reason, which I personally don't understand, but most people feel that if they pay a lot for something that it must be worth having. So, if I charge someone $600 for one of my dogs, and tell these people how wonderful these dogs are, and that is why I am charging so much, these people will take that dog and feel that because they spent a lot of money on it, it must be a "good" dog. (I use "I" in a theoretical sense, as I do not breed any dogs). If a person only pays $60 for a dog, that dog becomes a cheap commodity, as it's value is less and therefore it's worth is less.

So the person that has to have the big house, and new car, now has a designer dog, because he paid a lot of money for it. Is this wrong? OF COURSE IT IS WRONG! But society is crazy.

In a capitalist society, people will charge what they can get. They play on peoples vanity, and people fall into the trap. It is not the people selling the dogs who are at fault. It is the stupid people with mixed up values buying them.

[deepseasnake]

WOW never heard of ambullneos but there are a heep of breeder sites after typing it in on google.
They dont look right, kinda confused looking in the eyes, :lol: probably wondering why there are so many voices in their head! Those dogs look like any other pit/mastiff I dont see the big deal, especially not a 3000-5000$ deal NO WAY.
Mei, you seem to have alot of knowledge about molossers, has their ever been a boxer/AB? or anything close?

[deepseasnake]

WOW, better check his hips, he's probably walking against skin. :lol:
If you go see the dog could you consider taking a pic and posting it I'm really liking this idea the more I think about it! :D

[bk_blue]

I agree with you Deep- all dogs started out being bred and rebred till the perfect mix was made, but how long has it taken and lots of purebred dogs still have hereditary problems. People do see their pets as a status symbol and how much they paid for it will either evoke a whistle "wow, she must be a top dog then" or a puzzled look "you paid 1500 bucks for THAT, I saw one just like him at the shelter!" :wink:
We already have so many different breeds of dog to choose from, do we really need another? Think of all the dogs in the shelters now, wouldn't it be better to save a life than to create more?
With "hypoallergenic" dogs- I thought the Poodle didn't shed? Is there a truly "hypoallergenic" dog? I do feel very sorry for those who love animals but can't own them because of allergies... but creating an allergy free dog is something that could only be done over many years with a lot of effort to ensure that by creating such a breed, the breed itself was not beset with its own medical problems.
Fighting dogs-people who breed dogs specifically to fight one another are those who have no concern for the dog's welfare at all. :evil:
Miniature dogs- there are lots of those around now! (I would be scared to own a tiny dog, I would probably accidentally sit on it or something! :wink: )
And you are right Mei-Mei, nobody seems to be interested in improving the gene pool of the dogs- more the wallet.
My point is there are more than enough dog breeds to suit everyone, if they can't find one after checking every available option then maybe a dog isn't what they should be getting after all.

[deepseasnake]

I know this just me, and I'm not putting anyone down

but I do not get the mini dog thing, I watch my girlfriend's parents little poms run around the house, and I'm just plain confused, what is the point? you cant wrestle, play or run with it. you gotta pick him up everytime any average sized cat gets close, and if your holding a pencil in front of you, better walk slow cuz he might be behind it! hehe I really dont get the whole mini dog thing, they are just uncalled for and weird. :lol:

[Rowie-the-Pooh]

http://www2.dogomania.com/gallery/breeds/breed556/ :o

Some "Goldendoodles"! :evil:

RIGHT HERE IN OUR VERY OWN DOGOMANIA.COM!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:

Why? WHy? :-?

I know this just me, and I'm not putting anyone down

but I do not get the mini dog thing, I watch my girlfriend's parents little poms run around the house, and I'm just plain confused, what is the point? you cant wrestle, play or run with it. you gotta pick him up everytime any average sized cat gets close, and if your holding a pencil in front of you, better walk slow cuz he might be behind it! hehe I really dont get the whole mini dog thing, they are just uncalled for and weird.

Uh-oh Deep, hope your girlfriend doesn't see that!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

[Guest Anonymous]

Its really sad people can breed mutts (even the so-called "bullboxers") and claim they are a "new" breed. Just ridiculous. They dont realize they are losing the traits breeders have been breeding for of the original breeds. People need to learn mutts are mutts, nothing more. Then to have the nerve to sell them for hundreds or even thousands of dollars!! :evil: Alot of BS. Now for purebreeds I understand. I sell our APBTs (fullbred and gamebred) for anywhere from $500 to $5000 depending on the bloodlines. These people breeding mutts and selling mutts are giving honest breeders a bad name.

[deepseasnake]

oh she knows, I let everyone in that house know exactly how I feel I also let the dogs know and the neighbors.
Sometimes when I've had acouple mike's lemonades, I'll REALLY let 'em know what I think, all in fun though. One time I got into it with her mom, always in front of other people for comedy, and she told me poms are SLED DOGS oh my god that was was funny I almost peed myself!

[science_doc]

I worked with someone who found one of the designer mutt sites on the web and exclaimed to me look, purebred parents out bred to make a HEALTHIER dog. She went on to explain to me how ALL pure dogs are hopelessly saddled with a million genetic diseases and how this would solve all the problems. I think there are many more ignorant than educated people when it comes to pets and pet care, unfortunately for the rest of us!

[Guest Anonymous]

[quote name='Mei-Mei']

Mei, you seem to have alot of knowledge about molossers, has their ever been a boxer/AB? or anything close?

Molossers are my favorite so I study them a lot. :D

I love the molosser breeds as well. A lovely woman by the name of Mary Dunk imported the first Pyrenean Mastiff into Britainjust recently so I sent her an email to congratulate her on her new dog and wished her all the best with the dog. She thanked me for my kind words and wishes then told me she was setting up a Pyrenean Mastiff Club of Britain and said that I could become a founding member if I wanted. But I am not too sure as I have never been involved with anything like that before. What does running a dog club entail and what would be expected of me as a founding member? Thanks in advance.

[deepseasnake]

Hmmm

Its really sad people can breed mutts (even the so-called "bullboxers") and claim they are a "new" breed. Just ridiculous. They dont realize they are losing the traits breeders have been breeding for of the original breeds. People need to learn mutts are mutts, nothing more. Then to have the nerve to sell them for hundreds or even thousands of dollars!! Alot of BS. Now for purebreeds I understand. I sell our APBTs (fullbred and gamebred) for anywhere from $500 to $5000 depending on the bloodlines. These people breeding mutts and selling mutts are giving honest breeders a bad name.

well at first I was concerned about the dignity of the bullboxer, but seeing as how you probably know nothing about them or anyother dog but what makes good bait for your fighters, Im no longer concerned

[Guest Anonymous]

http://www.loot.com/scripts/lootsite.dll?search&query=dogue

[Gordonmom]

OK. LOOT.com Unbelievable.

I take back eveything I said in my earlier post. These people are just scum.

[corgilady]

:o wow! Unbelieveable!!!

[bk_blue]

:o There is obviously a market for these overpriced mutts or they wouldn't be bred. Who is buying them and why? How can we re-educate prospective buyers that they are getting ripped off? And it's not about the money, as much as it's a complete scam. It's about the poor dog that is virtually an experiment, a cash cow and nothing more.