Pitted against each other?

[Guest Anonymous]

Wow what a story.... I am guessing Plano TX???

I think they just want the family out... I think someone should have kept their GSD out of someone elses yard!! I think the Pit was doing what comes natural..to any dog for that matter..Protecting what was his.. :wink:
People really get on my nerves.. I posted there too!!!! :-? :evil:

[deepseasnake]

you ever notice this kind of stuff never happens around people like us? (except the whole pup mill going on) makes you wonder if people like this know to keep their mouth shut around people who know what they are talking about

[Guest Anonymous]

I, until a week ago, had two pits. and a Mixed breed. They were all good, kind dogs, but we really loved the Mixed breed above the others. Don't get me wrong, we loved them all very much, but she was our first and our little darling. On Sept. 11th. 7 pm my two pits attacked Cleo.(The Mixed Breed) and the poor little 27 lb. sweetie didn't have a chance, they tore her apart. I had to put Muffin & Magoo to sleep because I have a 15 month old boy and could not trust the dogs near him again.
Where I live you don't give Pits. up for adoption or Drug dealers and Dog fighters will adopt them and abuse them. So if you love them, you have them put down.
They lived together for 6 years and got along really well. The male pitt and Cleo had their battles, but I always broke it up and always kept them separated when we were not home. The weird thing was is that it was the big female who did most of the killing,......and her and Cleo never,ever,ever fought. I don't know what happened or what to think, but I had to go out and get my wife a little puppy a few day later, because I thought she was going to have a nervous break down. She a little better now, but still have crying fits. I got here a little Whippet and she acts a lot like Cleo. I know that people go to heaven once they die, but the bible doesn't tell us about Dogs, so maybe they come back to help us again and again. If they do go to heaven, I will see you there Cleo.
I miss you.

[Guest Anonymous]

[quote name='Dogman']I, until a week ago, had two pits. and a Mixed breed. They were all good, kind dogs, but we really loved the Mixed breed above the others. Don't get me wrong, we loved them all very much, but she was our first and our little darling. On Sept. 11th. 7 pm my two pits attacked Cleo.(The Mixed Breed) and the poor little 27 lb. sweetie didn't have a chance, they tore her apart. I had to put Muffin & Magoo to sleep because I have a 15 month old boy and could not trust the dogs near him again.
Where I live you don't give Pits. up for adoption or Drug dealers and Dog fighters will adopt them and abuse them. So if you love them, you have them put down.
They lived together for 6 years and got along really well. The male pitt and Cleo had their battles, but I always broke it up and always kept them separated when we were not home. The weird thing was is that it was the big female who did most of the killing,......and her and Cleo never,ever,ever fought. I don't know what happened or what to think, but I had to go out and get my wife a little puppy a few day later, because I thought she was going to have a nervous break down. She a little better now, but still have crying fits. I got here a little Whippet and she acts a lot like Cleo. I know that people go to heaven once they die, but the bible doesn't tell us about Dogs, so maybe they come back to help us again and again. If they do go to heaven, I will see you there Cleo.
I miss you.

This is where I believe they go...
http://www.rainbowbridge.com/


Sorry for all your losses. :cry:

[deepseasnake]

you know as cheesey as it sounds I 100% believe our dogs go to heaven, because the way I look at it a dog provides a kind of joy that nothing else can bring and without that specific feeling heaven would lack something, so I know that I'll see my dog Tosh again she's waitin for me with a body that works completely, and it puts a huge smile on my face to think about seeing her again :D

you know I dont know about your specific situation but that practicaly exact same thing happened to my aunt who had 3 rotties and a then got a GSD. we therorised that the 3 rotties packed up and had an established authoritive chain and the GSD just didnt fit.
either way its a terrible thing for anyone to go through and I really hope you and your family can overcome and recover, and try as hard as you can to not hold it against the breed, we will never know everything that happens inside the animal realm, again I'm sorry for you and your family that is a very traumatic thing to go through, good luck with the new pup

[Guest Anonymous]

my personal guess is that there are more dogs who have the qualities needed for attaining heaven than there are people who do
but the dogs being what they are would follow us to purgatory or hell if we didn't make it to heaven when they did

[Guest Anonymous]

[quote name='"Mei-Mei"']A dog fight is a terrible thing. In this situation the GSD was on the Pitbull's territory and the dog attacked. It had nothing to do with breeds in this case. I'm surprised that the folks in this neighborhood are characterizing this as a breed specific attack. This was a sad incident in which the GSD came off the worse in a fight.
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It had a great deal to do with the breeds and the dominance levels of the dogs too. Do you really think if the 'home' dog had been a beagle or golden retriever or a chinese crested the fight would have happened the way it did?
I don't dislike pitbulls but I don't fantasize what they are about either. A breed of dog bred to fight other dogs is apt to be contentious with other members of its own species. A hint there is a problem is when dogs of the opposite sex fight - that is pretty abnormal behavior in dogs.

[Rowie-the-Pooh]

:evil: Speechless :evil:

[bk_blue]

I posted the other week on another board about a greyhound mauling a toddler to death here. Now, are greyhounds considered to be "dangerous"?? I know this case was a dog and not a person, but I'm just pointing out that the unexpected can and does happen... it was an unfortunate incident that had horrible consequences... would it have been newsworthy if it was two dogs not classified as "dangerous" ie. a dachshund (and they can bite!!!!) and a little terrier of some sort???

[gooeydog]

I don't think it has much to do with the breeds... Most dogs do not take kindly to another dog "invading" their yard. This fight didn't seem like a typical "dog aggressive dog attacking" fight, but more like a "hey! what are you doing in my yard! get out!" kind of fight, which escalated into a real fight. I wasn't there, so I don't know, but IMO, but owners are at fault, the pit bull's owner for not keeping their fence in good shape, and the other GSDs owner, for letiing their dog go into another dog's yard. I think more of the blame does fall on the GSDs owner though.

[deepseasnake]

guest said

Do you really think if the 'home' dog had been a beagle or golden retriever or a chinese crested the fight would have happened the way it did?

well in retrospec yes, and here is my reasoning if I am home my male retreiver is nice and shy (not in a insecure way, more of a young pup shy) but when I am gone and it is just the women in the house he turns into protection mode. if a dog came into my yard while I was home Oscar would bark and come to get me (it has happened and this is what both my dogs do) however going by what my girlfriend tells me he would definatly attack and intruder in their defense.
and it makes sense that he would as the normal protector isnt there anymore

In this case, without knowing the details, I agree that both owners are at fault but definatly more so the GSD than the pit, and its 100% this story is going the way that it is because the victor was a pit. In fact if this happened the other way around we would never even have heard about it

[Guest Anonymous]

Most well bred APBTs will attack a dog regardless of where he is at (his territory or someone elses). Keeping the pit in a fence is a responsible way of confinement. The owner of the GSD is totaly to blame here. She allowed her dog to stick his nose somewhere it did not belong. The APBT was doing what comes naturally. Which is protecting his territory and being dog aggressive. It completely ticks me off when I am walking one of my pits and someone allows their dog to come at us. I have to pick my dog up and continually try to kick the other dogs away. BUT if something happens that one of my dogs gets ahold of the other dog it is automatically my fault because I have APBTs. Its crap that we, APBT owners, unfortunately have to take because of our choice in breeds (which is the best choice :D !!!)

[deepseasnake]

yeah dude, I agree with the rest of your post
but last time I checked pitts aren't bred fighters of other dogs like Akitas are ( :wink: just kidding :lol: ) and a well bred APBT should be confident and tolerate quite a bit from another dog. If your dog truely does what you have said you have a real problem on your hands, what happens when your not home and a GSD sticks his head through your doggie door? fault or no fault your dog dies, its just the way dice land, everytime

[bk_blue]

Yeah Deep I agree- why would you get a dog if you're unable to socialise it with other dogs because it's too aggressive? May as well get an electronic burglar alarm. :-?

[eggrolyn1223]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!That's where my mom lives!!!!Plano!!!!!!!!!!!TX!!!AHHH!!!!I've seen that house before!!!OH MY GOD!I don't understand the article.Too many ppl.I just know there was some dog fight and a GSD got killed.Poor dog.. :cry:

[Gordonmom]

The bible says that dogs will not go to heaven because they don't have souls.

Well, I know my dogs have gone to heaven, because they have all taken a part of my soul.

By the way, is it true what that guy who responded to the article in the paper said about ALL pit bull owners sky-dive, ride Harleys and party all night? :lol:

[deepseasnake]

god knows I'm always in bed by 3am I drive a Suzuki intruder and would never jump out of a plane..........with a parachute, real men dive NAKED!

[gooeydog]

Most well bred APBTs will attack a dog regardless of where he is at (his territory or someone elses).

Not most. Some. Many well bred APBTs are confident enough that they won't fight another dog unless there is a clear threat/challenge. Not all are like that though.

Keeping the pit in a fence is a responsible way of confinement.

A fence with a hole in it? I don't know if you read that part, but I bet if the dog had wanted to get out, she could have.

[Rowie-the-Pooh]

I believe strongly that dogs go to heaven....Just like Gordenmom said...our dogs take a part of OUR soul....... :cry:

Boy do I LOVE dogs! 8) :D

[Guest Anonymous]

I did say most, not all. In general they usually dont bother small dogs and puppies. MOST will be dog aggressive without having to be provoked. I also said "well bred" which means gamebred (cause a pit not gamebred is just another cur). Regardless of socialization a pit cant be trusted around other dogs. Even if they grew up together. Dogs argue just like people do and if you have a pit and a cur and they are arguing you will come home to a dead cur. We have a bitch that can run around the yard and not touch any of the other dogs but we know there is a chance she might.
Sasha girl, a couple of the dogs will allow some dogs to run at them but the others wont. I pick my dogs up so the other person, who is allowing their dog to run at an APBT, doesnt go home with a dead dog. Are you going to let your dog run lose at a pit? And if he does do you want the pit owner to just stand there and let his dog kill yours? I am protecting my dog from getting taken because of someone elses irresponsibility as well as protecting the other dog.
We can usually walk a bitch and a male at the same time side by side but not two males or two bitches.
We have 32 dogs at the moment and are expecting 3 litters to be hitting the ground soon.
Why own a dog you cant socialize with other dogs? Well, the only dogs mine are around are the other pits on the yard. They dont need to get along with other dogs. The one dog I take everywhere with me (my housedog) can be around dogs he is familiar with but he is still not trusted around them and he cant be around strange dogs (unless little ones or pups.)
I only have experience, several years I might add, with gamebred full-blooded APBTs. Dont deal with ANY curs. Maybe that is why I feel they cant be trusted around dogs. I have seen way to many accidents with pits that were thought to get along okay with other dogs.
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[deepseasnake]

I have seen way to many accidents with pits that were thought to get along okay with other dogs.

accidents? accidents? youve seen what? accidents you say, no I'm sorry you have not seen accidents, you have witnessed morons like yourself who dont properly train and socialize your dogs. and you wonder why I hate people like you? you are just like a cocaine farmer in columbia, the root of every problem we face toaday in regaurd to this dog. So on my and everyone around me's behalf thank you for keeping pit fighting rings in buisness and keeping all those "gamebred" dogs killing children and eating people. We love the press you get for us and our dogs. Without you and your efforts half of the posts on this board would not even be here. Glad to have you with us fuck :D

[deepseasnake]

you are the first person who has genuinely pi$$ed me off, I actually feel angry right now. Amazing I never thought it could actually happen, I actually am emotional about text on a computer screen!
oh man I hope you reply, I really hope you reply :lol:

[Guest Anonymous]

sashagirl napisał(a):

Deep, couldn't have said it better myself. I too am careful with my pits, but I know how to read her... I know how to read my dogs...

So you are telling me that because my dogs have not been gametested they are curs????

Why don't you do us all a favor and leave this board and never come back. NOBODY here agrees with your way of thinking so there is no reason for you to stay.

Thanks for dropping by, hope you enjoyed your short visit...

BYE BYE NOW!!! :roll:

Good to see you Sash! Haven't heard from you yet today!

[deepseasnake]

dont get me wrong I would like you to reply and rebut these statements, I would like to hear what you have to say, if there is anything to say,

[Guest Anonymous]

cur [ kur ] (plural curs)
noun

1. mongrel dog: a mixed-breed dog, especially an ill-natured or worthless one

Just to clear the definition of "cur" up. Seeing as how it is NOT a dog that is not gamebred. I find it funny that most breeders, show and field, big name, Westmeinster, Crufts, and etc... don't have 32 dogs and 3 litters coming.. Just for curiousity.. Are you dogs up on shots? Visit a vet? At my calculations..Rabies shots at $5.00 a piece cost $160.00... And they are more than $5.00 a piece!