Guest Anonymous Posted September 3, 2002 Posted September 3, 2002 I have a 9(about ) month old female dog, found her in my yard at about 3 months. The vet would not spay her at six months because she has a tucked-up vulva. We were told she had to go through one heat to correct the problem before we had her fixed. Fixing a dog with this condition before her first heat could make her more succeptable to infections and leaking pee. That's what our vet told us and why she would not spay her. (I think I feel the need to explain because so many people feel the need to lecture us on spaying, believe me I wanted her spayed ASAP.) So on Sunday, she started bleeding. I am completely new to this. How long will the bleeding last? How long do I need to keep her from the dog park? Is she still fertile after the bleeding is done? I took her to a small fenced area yesterday with no dogs. When a neutered male came to the park, I left, but he did try to mount her as we were leaving. She got really mad and tried to bite him. Does that mean anything? Thanks for any answers/advice you can give! Mag Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted September 3, 2002 Posted September 3, 2002 Female dogs vary in heat cycles.... All I have every seen are usually around 3 weeks. So I suggest 4 weeks of watching and guarding. :D When the bleeding stops(usually last 4-9 days) she will be ready to conceive pups. So you can also watch for the bleeding to stop and a yellowish discharge to start. (4-13 days) The fact that she tried to bite him means that she is not ready to "accept" males. There is usually only a certain amount of "days" in the time a female is in heat that she will accept a male. Hope this helps! Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted September 3, 2002 Posted September 3, 2002 Thanks so much for the quick answer! This is my first dog. Even though it's too late, out of curiosity, have you ever heard of this problem before? Luckily I work at home and can take her out for exercise during "off peak" hours. I swear, normally I only see female dogs, now it seems there are only male ones! Thanks again! Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted September 3, 2002 Posted September 3, 2002 No I cannot say that I have heard of this problem. Sorry but here is one link to something about it. http://www.vetinfo.com/dfemale.html#A%20tucked%20%20vulva%20in%20greyhound Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted September 3, 2002 Posted September 3, 2002 mag napisał(a):Thanks so much for the quick answer! This is my first dog. Even though it's too late, out of curiosity, have you ever heard of this problem before? Luckily I work at home and can take her out for exercise during "off peak" hours. I swear, normally I only see female dogs, now it seems there are only male ones! Thanks again! Mag: I have seen this condition in some pups. Some of them were overweight. I have also seen this condition correct itself when the pup becomes an adult. If the condition is severe, make sure the area is cleaned properly to avoid yeast infections and the collection of debris. Jacsmom is correct about the heat cycle. Every female is different so there are many variations that could occur. She could be in pre-heat for 7 to 10 days, she won't accept the male during this time. After this, she could be in heat for 7 to 14 days were she would accept the male and then the post-heat period for 7 to 10 days. I have known females that their entire heat cycle is only 14 days --- and some that have a 21 to 28 day cycle. Just like humans, they are different. The average is 7 days of pre-heat, 7 days when they accept the male, and 7 days going out of heat. I have found the average --- is, well, .... not the norm. If she accidently gets bred during this heat cycle, take her immediately to the vet and tell him what happened. He can give her a shot to prolong the heat cycle. It is not a 100%, but is usually effective in stopping the fertilized eggs from being implanted and the female becoming pregnant. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted September 3, 2002 Posted September 3, 2002 Thanks so much for the info! The vet said she is only "slightly" tucked up. She said there shouldn't be a problem once she gets spayed. Actually, we haven't had any problems thus far with infections. She's definitely not overweight, but is a big puppy -- about 65 lbs/24" at the shoulders. I am super paranoid about the whole pregnancy thing as I am pretty squemish and have read enough of this forum to know it's not for me. I live in a big city with so many dogs but she is never out without me or my husband. I didn't know the vet could help if she gets fertilized. Is it sorta like the morning after pill? Another question: will neutered males be attracted to her scent as well? Will males try to get to her no matter what (i.e. attack me?) Again, thank you so much for the help. Glad I found this forum today! Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted September 3, 2002 Posted September 3, 2002 mag napisał(a):Thanks so much for the info! The vet said she is only "slightly" tucked up. She said there shouldn't be a problem once she gets spayed. Actually, we haven't had any problems thus far with infections. She's definitely not overweight, but is a big puppy -- about 65 lbs/24" at the shoulders. I am super paranoid about the whole pregnancy thing as I am pretty squemish and have read enough of this forum to know it's not for me. I live in a big city with so many dogs but she is never out without me or my husband. I didn't know the vet could help if she gets fertilized. Is it sorta like the morning after pill? Another question: will neutered males be attracted to her scent as well? Will males try to get to her no matter what (i.e. attack me?) Again, thank you so much for the help. Glad I found this forum today! Mag: some males can be relentless in their quest for an acceptable female. If the male is off leash, without his owner, I'd be leary and go the other way. When a female is in her heat cycle --- she seems to attract males as well as females. I have a neutered male that I'm doing a behavior study on. He is absolutely hilarious. He is neutered, no testicles, can not reproduce --- but if the female is in heat, he goes thru the motions as an intact male. He mounts, ejaculates, and they tie. He is neutered! My study is to show that there is more to the reproductive act than just the hormones. Hormones are not the only thing that controls the reproductive act in the male. Of course, several other neutered males are to be used for a scientific representative population study. They are broken into two catagories: males that bred before they were neutered and ones that were not. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted September 6, 2002 Posted September 6, 2002 Tic Doc napisał(a):[ snip I have a neutered male that I'm doing a behavior study on. He is absolutely hilarious. He is neutered, no testicles, can not reproduce --- but if the female is in heat, he goes thru the motions as an intact male. He mounts, ejaculates, and they tie. He is neutered! My study is to show that there is more to the reproductive act than just the hormones. snip. This is not in the least unusual in a neutered male. Any breeder who keeps neutered males around and has intact bitches can assure you of this. Pheromones 'click on' interesting behaviors no matter what the species is! IME males who are neutered later are more apt to be responsive to a female's heat season but I have one dog here who was neutered at 5 months and is now about 7 years old and last summer tied with a bitch he knows well. I think the male knowing/living with the female and her being receptive to that particular male plays a part in it. In this case the whole situation looked like she was explaining things to him very explicitly despite the fact she has never been bred either. He was horrified once the tie was made and made all efforts to get away with good success and a little pain and thereafter snarled at her propositioning when she came near him and he would run and hide from the 'hussy'! :lol: I've had others who acted like full studs right down to taking an interest in the pups produced (by another male of course) and forming a bond with the bitch they tried to breed. But those dogs were rescues neutered later in life. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted September 6, 2002 Posted September 6, 2002 Anonymous napisał(a):Tic Doc napisał(a):[ snip I have a neutered male that I'm doing a behavior study on. He is absolutely hilarious. He is neutered, no testicles, can not reproduce --- but if the female is in heat, he goes thru the motions as an intact male. He mounts, ejaculates, and they tie. He is neutered! My study is to show that there is more to the reproductive act than just the hormones. snip. This is not in the least unusual in a neutered male. Any breeder who keeps neutered males around and has intact bitches can assure you of this. Pheromones 'click on' interesting behaviors no matter what the species is! IME males who are neutered later are more apt to be responsive to a female's heat season but I have one dog here who was neutered at 5 months and is now about 7 years old and last summer tied with a b**** he knows well. I think the male knowing/living with the female and her being receptive to that particular male plays a part in it. In this case the whole situation looked like she was explaining things to him very explicitly despite the fact she has never been bred either. He was horrified once the tie was made and made all efforts to get away with good success and a little pain and thereafter snarled at her propositioning when she came near him and he would run and hide from the 'hussy'! :lol: I've had others who acted like full studs right down to taking an interest in the pups produced (by another male of course) and forming a bond with the b**** they tried to breed. But those dogs were rescues neutered later in life. FUNNY! It's just amazing what these girls can talk these boys into doing!! :wink: Quote
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