What breed is the Toughest in Show?

[Guest Anonymous]

What breed would you say is has the strongest competion in the ring? Meaning: Is harder to get points with... :D

[Guest Anonymous]

I've never shown, but from having a relatively "new" breed, I would say anything newer. Shibas, for instance, are rare to get best in show.

JMHO!

[Guest Anonymous]

Jacsmom napisał(a):

What breed would you say is has the strongest competion in the ring? Meaning: Is harder to get points with... :D

I would say in general the most popular breeds are the hardest to get a win on as there are so many in competition your odds of being the winner at any given show are lots lower.
I would say the coated breeds are the hardest to get into proper show shape to even have a chance at winning as the 'novice' is often going up against professional groomers who have an edge on coat care knowledge it seems.
I would say the rare breeds are hard to get a 'major' on as finding enough dogs in one spot can be a serious issue if the people owning the rarer breed do not live near each other and then when you do get together only a couple folks go home with points.
In the US each region has different point schedules depending on the number of dogs of the breed on average shown in that area so some breeds might be hard to get points on here and easier there. Many professional handlers and serious show folks take advantage of this and cart a 'majors' worth of the dogs they own or handle to an area where the point schedule calls for low numbers to get high points and finish the dogs in a couple of weekends of no competition but themselves! Very annoying to anyone who lives in that area and shows the breed as they soon have to contend with a new point schedule out of proportion to the actual number of local show dogs.

[Guest Anonymous]

Anonymous napisał(a):

Jacsmom napisał(a):

What breed would you say is has the strongest competion in the ring? Meaning: Is harder to get points with... :D

I would say in general the most popular breeds are the hardest to get a win on as there are so many in competition your odds of being the winner at any given show are lots lower.
I would say the coated breeds are the hardest to get into proper show shape to even have a chance at winning as the 'novice' is often going up against professional groomers who have an edge on coat care knowledge it seems.
I would say the rare breeds are hard to get a 'major' on as finding enough dogs in one spot can be a serious issue if the people owning the rarer breed do not live near each other and then when you do get together only a couple folks go home with points.
In the US each region has different point schedules depending on the number of dogs of the breed on average shown in that area so some breeds might be hard to get points on here and easier there. Many professional handlers and serious show folks take advantage of this and cart a 'majors' worth of the dogs they own or handle to an area where the point schedule calls for low numbers to get high points and finish the dogs in a couple of weekends of no competition but themselves! Very annoying to anyone who lives in that area and shows the breed as they soon have to contend with a new point schedule out of proportion to the actual number of local show dogs.

Ya know, I've only been to one show, and have watched quite a few on TV so I'm not even close to an expert on any of it! :wink: All of what you have said makes a lot sense!

[Guest Anonymous]

Do shar pei's score high at dog shows?

[Guest Anonymous]

I think it was the first or second year that aussies were recognized by AKC that a big male took best in show at westminster... and I haven't seen them there since!
I agree that a rare or popular dog would be the worst... I watched alot of shows with my mom and it seems the cockerspaniels, and peekeness, and don't forget poodles seem to win alot... but a dog name Jr won eukenuba this year I believe he was a bichon and that's a prette rare breed?

[Guest Anonymous]

hazelhover napisał(a):

I think it was the first or second year that aussies were recognized by AKC that a big male took best in show at westminster... and I haven't seen them there since!
I agree that a rare or popular dog would be the worst... I watched alot of shows with my mom and it seems the cockerspaniels, and peekeness, and don't forget poodles seem to win alot... but a dog name Jr won eukenuba this year I believe he was a bichon and that's a prette rare breed?

Oh, I talk about JR all the time! He was SOO fun to watch, especially when he won!!! :wink:

[Guest Anonymous]

[quote name='hazelhover']I think it was the first or second year that aussies were recognized by AKC that a big male took best in show at westminster... and I haven't seen them there since!
I agree that a rare or popular dog would be the worst... I watched alot of shows with my mom and it seems the cockerspaniels, and peekeness, and don't forget poodles seem to win alot... but a dog name Jr won eukenuba this year I believe he was a bichon and that's a prette rare breed?

No Bichons are not at all rare :wink: if you ever want to know the population stats on dogs in the US you can check the numbers on litter and individual rankings at the www.akc.org page and they have the breeds listed there somewhere in ranked order from most to least popular by registrations.
While the more popular breeds are harder to win with when you have a good one its *really* good as to make it to the top they really had to beat a lot of dogs out to get there!

[Guest Anonymous]

I have just entered my first chesapeake bay retriever in his first show. From what I see there are not many being shown and majors are hard to get. It will take longer to get championship than a labrador. But from owning labradors in the past I love my chessie. Since I have had him I would not change breeds.
Every person has an idea on what is the hardest. What makes it easier is getting knowledge on the breed you are interested in and loving the breed. Then it would not matter on how hard it is. :wink:

[Guest Anonymous]

Huh, never see many of them, but then that could just be the area? :o
Ya Jr was a real kick to watch! You could just see the joy in that dog as he pranced around the ring... he was definatly a lime lighter! 8)

[Guest Anonymous]

luvchessies napisał(a):

I have just entered my first chesapeake bay retriever in his first show. From what I see there are not many being shown and majors are hard to get. It will take longer to get championship than a labrador. But from owning labradors in the past I love my chessie. Since I have had him I would not change breeds.
Every person has an idea on what is the hardest. What makes it easier is getting knowledge on the breed you are interested in and loving the breed. Then it would not matter on how hard it is. :wink:

Actually the thing that made dogs shows better for me win or lose was knowing that, no matter what, I got to bring my dog home with me and that was far more important than the ribbons of any color.
I got a nice compliment at one specialty show in a breed I only own one of - perfect strangers came up to me and told me how nice it was to see someone in sync with their dog in the ring and how both dog and owner were obviously enjoying each other in the ring - now I gained no points that day but I still came home with a dog that loved me :D and I felt many others there simply had a show dog...

[Guest Anonymous]

YEAH ELRIC!

[Guest Anonymous]

Thank you! I'm in love with him! :P