Guest Anonymous Posted December 24, 2002 Posted December 24, 2002 One thing we must never forget, if it weren't for the pitbull's fighting ancestry we all wouldn't have the great dogs we have today. It's the fighting ancestry that makes a pit the best dog on the planet. I stress I have never fought my dogs and don't consort with people who do but the dog's attitude, strength, ambition, drive and humour are all due to its ancestry, good or bad. Quote
deepseasnake Posted December 25, 2002 Posted December 25, 2002 One thing we must never forget, if it weren't for the pitbull's fighting ancestry we all wouldn't have the great dogs we have today. It's the fighting ancestry that makes a pit the best dog on the planet. I stress I have never fought my dogs and don't consort with people who do but the dog's attitude, strength, ambition, drive and humour are all due to its ancestry, good or bad. what exactly is your point? Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted December 25, 2002 Posted December 25, 2002 I agree with all of you fully. I have two pitts both have fighting blood lines butt i raised both from puppies and they are far from aggresive they both play with my daugther and her cousin (both 1years old) the kids grab the dogs muslle and they have never even mad a slight agressive replie. Anyone who thinks these breeds of dogs are mean and aggresive need to investigat the owners. Quote
ArtfulDodger Posted December 25, 2002 Posted December 25, 2002 [quote name='deepseasnake']One thing we must never forget, if it weren't for the pitbull's fighting ancestry we all wouldn't have the great dogs we have today. It's the fighting ancestry that makes a pit the best dog on the planet. I stress I have never fought my dogs and don't consort with people who do but the dog's attitude, strength, ambition, drive and humour are all due to its ancestry, good or bad. what exactly is your point? My point is that although people are vociferous in their outrage over dogfighting, and rightly so, the fact remains that the pitbull is the magnificent animal it is because it's been bred for hundreds of years to be indomitable, hardy, athletic, powerful, never say quit, yet man friendly. There is no doubt that these "fighting breeds" are different from other breeds in many ways. These differences are what attract us to them in the first place. We like their spirit and drive, it's youthful and refreshing to be around a pitbull. My point is that if it weren't for the fighting and bullbaiting history shared by pit bulls and (and other breeds, eg staffy, tosa, etc) we would never have seen this special spirit in the first place. We have to acknowledge that fighting over hundreds of years has produced the dog we have today. Even the most showbred pitbull is game for a scrap or a hunt, it's in his nature and he is well aware that he is physically capable to do the job. His confidence in himself is wonderful. I take my pits out on wild pigs and you can still see that history when they're on a 75 kilogram boar. This hunting does nothing detrimental to their socialisation, they still love my cats and don't ever start a fight with another dog (although if one were picked they would defend themselves with great joy) I'm sure this admission of mine that I take my dogs hunting dangerous animals might ruffle afew feathers but I assure you the dogs LOVE it. The pigs on the other hand are usually rather annoyed, but I'm a greenie and they are feral animals in my country that do untold damage to the environment so I'm not too fussed. Not only that but a 75 kilo boar can feed a pair of dogs for a long time. As for my point, I thought I had expressed it eloquently enough the first time but I thank you for the chance to reiterate. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 Here is a solution for mean dogs. Eat em' check out this cookbook! www.wastedpress.com Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 Take one pitbull, put in boiling water for two hours. Now you have pitbullion. www.wastedpress.com Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 Fici and PHil- I hope your just joking.... ? ArtfulDodger- you have captured the point i have been trying to make for quite sometime. YOu cant ignore the past of this breed, hate it or not its why they are what they are. I am not for dog-fighting, but you have to give respect to those that breed and culled so strictly to consistantly produce such an animal. great couple of posts :P Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 Fici and PHil- I hope your just joking.... ? Maybe yes, Maybe no. We have to many dogs and Fido's (F***ing inconsiderate dog owners) in the U.S. Those of us who don't want to be bothered by your animals are getting tired of you and your dogs. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 are you? hmmmm, well since i am not an irresponsible owner, am always accountable for my dogs, and am not contributing to the dog population. I guess i dont care what you think... Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted April 5, 2004 Posted April 5, 2004 pit bulls (not all bloodlines) are the most inbred and overbred fighting dog in the history of the sport. so yes i beleive they are some bloodlines of the pit bull breed that make them dangerous and blood thirsty. u can tell from the sire or dam if their pups are fighters or viscous. i have bred rotts and owned pits the same time i made sure i had true american staffs and gentle temperment. i advise ne one planning to get a pit bull pup to check the stud used and bitch used and how they react to other dogs and people. Quote
gooeydog Posted April 5, 2004 Author Posted April 5, 2004 "True american staffs" are descendants of the APBT breed, if you look back far enough in your old dogs' pedigrees, you will find APBTs, probably ones that had been used for fighting as well. And while you may get an idea of a dog's temperament by viewing their parents' temperaments, temperament traits can skip generations, so what you see may not be exactly what you get. In addition, a dog's reaction to other dogs may be entirely different to that towards people, the two are not the same, nor should they be taken as such. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted April 5, 2004 Posted April 5, 2004 pit bulls (not all bloodlines) are the most inbred and overbred fighting dog in the history of the sport. so yes i beleive they are some bloodlines of the pit bull breed that make them dangerous and blood thirsty. u can tell from the sire or dam if their pups are fighters or viscous. i have bred rotts and owned pits the same time i made sure i had true american staffs and gentle temperment. i advise ne one planning to get a pit bull pup to check the stud used and bitch used and how they react to other dogs and people. Inbreeding does not make a dog aggressive. Actually, I would say that every APBT is inbred, yeah, not most but every. I have never seen one that didnt have some inbreeding in it. Never. But to say "dangerous and bloodthirsty" is just ridiculous...especially since gamebred dogs, regardless of inbreeding are not bred if they show any aggression towards people. Anyone purchasing any dog of any breed should ask to see the stud and bitch used...For any breed. And as Goo said, temperment traits can skip generations, which is why its important to know a dogs bloodline. You can look back in any one of my dogs peds and you will not see one dog that was aggressive to people in any generation. BUT, several of them have some heavy inbreeding. True american staffs?? lol And you bred these dogs? I would be more worried about buying a dog from someone with no knowledge of thier breed than an inbred, gamebred APBT. Oh, and in case you dont know...AmStaffs arent any more gentle tempermented than gamebred/inbred APBTs. Quote
courtnek Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 ok realize this is an OLD post, and the perpetrator is probably long gone..but I am SOOO disappointed.... why did no one ask him/her the obvious question? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING ON A DOG FORUM IF **YOU DONT LIKE DOGS***??? ok that's my piece.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote
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