Guest Anonymous Posted July 24, 2002 Posted July 24, 2002 I am just upset we pay good money for dogs so we can breed . Also so we can breed for quality for a better breed. You go to vet's before you breed and to make sure the sire and dam is in good health. Then you have a litter of pups and you also take them to the vet before you sale them and to make sure they are in good health before they go to a new home. Then people come and say they want this pup. But they cannot pay for it but would like it for free!!! BUT they want the pup to breed for themselves. Am I wrong for not giving the pup away after all the money I put into a litter to make sure they are in good health. I don't make any money as it is but what I do make it goes back into my dogs such as food,vet bills and better housing. I am not a breeder to make money I do it because I love my dogs. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 24, 2002 Posted July 24, 2002 No NO You are not wrong. I agree with you 100%. We ahve to pay for our dogs nobody gives us anything for free so why should we help someone else for free. They would make money because they would have a dog that has been vet checked and not had to put any money into it and when they had a litter they would make money. SO NO FREE PUPPIES. Unless you would do a spay or neuter contract with them. So they could not try to make any money off of your pups. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 24, 2002 Posted July 24, 2002 You are ABSOLUTELY right not to give away puppies to people who simply do not want to pay. My feeling is if they're not willing to pay for a quality puppy, they have no business with one -- they obviously have no interest in improving the breed, but are looking for a way to make a "quick buck". I work at an animal shelter which charges a $100.00 adoption fee -- this includes the spay/neuter surgery, deworming, vaccinations, heartworm testing in adult dogs, and a microchip. You'd be amazed at the number of people who are appalled that we would charge $100.00 for a dog when you can "get one out the paper for free". These people apparently have no intention or desire to take proper care of a pet . . . they figure they'll get a "free puppy" and if it gets sick and dies, they'll just get another one. STICK TO YOUR GUNS ON THIS ONE -- there is, unfortunately, much truth in the statement that people will value those things that cost them something -- if it's free, it must not be worth anything . . . :roll: Quote
avaloniaboerboele Posted July 24, 2002 Posted July 24, 2002 Everything in life is based on currency - producing puppies does cost money. Life is also full of egoistic, sorry for them self people - if they cant do the maths, they are playing on your feelings to b/s you!!!!!!!!!!!!! And as Becky said - if they dont want to pay for a dog - obviously they their attitude is way wrongand the dog will suffer :evil: Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 24, 2002 Posted July 24, 2002 i agree wit u totally too! people should be willing to pay for a pup that has its checkups up to date AND in good health if u just want a dog free well its hard to get one if its in good quality! i also agree that u should get something after all the hard work of making sure the dogs are in good health and if the person wantign the pup for free shouldnt get a dog at all because they most likely might mistreat the pup :-? Quote
Ickle Posted July 24, 2002 Posted July 24, 2002 I am a recue co-ordinator in the England and we also get the (something for nothing people) asking us for free dogs/pups/ We give them a very short answer NO people of this category do not want a dog love & care and most likely will not care ito much if it runs off or dies,and like you said they would just get another from somewhere else They are also the type who could abandon one in favour of a younger dog, Ickle Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 24, 2002 Posted July 24, 2002 Thanks to all of you. I am glad that you all feel the same way as I do. So I will still say no from now on. :wink: Quote
julie45 Posted July 24, 2002 Posted July 24, 2002 I agree with you, lets face it if they cant afford to but the puppy how on earth are they going to keep it in food plus vet bills if they breed from it. also why on earth should some one gain from you when you do it because you love and take great care of your dogs,puupies.these sort of people are not dog lovers just money grabers. good for you for saying NO Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 24, 2002 Posted July 24, 2002 Here is my feeling on this.... If you cannot afford a puppy how are you going to afford vaccinations, spay/neuter, wormings, routine check-ups, and all of those just in cases... My lab broke his leg that was over $700 and people do not look at things like that... Dogs and puppies become a part of your family not a part of your 'income'. If you can not afford to pay for the puppy then obviously you can not afford the up keep either. Becky that sounds like a reasonable price with all that is included. Here it is not that much cheaper and they don't do that much. People tend to want more for less.. :( Quote
sixjollydogs Posted July 24, 2002 Posted July 24, 2002 :x NO...you are not wrong! If they can not afford the initial expense to acquire the dog...HOW are they going to afford to care for the dog? Can they buy it quality food...or junk...what about medical care? Owining a dog is a privledge...not a right...tell these free lloaders NO. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 24, 2002 Posted July 24, 2002 I paid alot for my Chihuahua and every penny was worth it. My dog is like my family. I agree that people who want animals for free, have the attitude that if something happens to the dog, they would dump the dog or not take care of the dog Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 25, 2002 Posted July 25, 2002 I totally agree with Jacsmom. If you cannot afford the initial payment in order to acquire the pup, how in the world are you going to pay for everything that the dog will need in it's lifetime? And if this person wants the breed this dog to make a quick buck...then he's in the wrong business. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 25, 2002 Posted July 25, 2002 Michele napisał(a):I paid alot for my Chihuahua and every penny was worth it. My dog is like my family. I agree that people who want animals for free, have the attitude that if something happens to the dog, they would dump the dog or not take care of the dog I'm right there with ya. I don't even wanna say how much I paid for mine, but the temperament in our dogs is OUTSTANDING! We more than got our moneys worth! Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 25, 2002 Posted July 25, 2002 guest napisał(a):I am just upset we pay good money for dogs so we can breed . Also so we can breed for quality for a better breed. You go to vet's before you breed and to make sure the sire and dam is in good health. Then you have a litter of pups and you also take them to the vet before you sale them and to make sure they are in good health before they go to a new home. Then people come and say they want this pup. But they cannot pay for it but would like it for free!!! BUT they want the pup to breed for themselves. Am I wrong for not giving the pup away after all the money I put into a litter to make sure they are in good health. I don't make any money as it is but what I do make it goes back into my dogs such as food,vet bills and better housing. I am not a breeder to make money I do it because I love my dogs. Be very careful about who you invite to see your pups. I prescreen people before they ever get an invitation to come and see the pup I have picked that might suit them. Some people I have heard have folks come to see the pups end up losing their litter because the people come and leave and then come back and steal the pups once they know where you live and what your schedule is and where you keep the pups. One of the things I use to prescreen people is I find out what happend to their last pet. Another is I call their veterinarian to see if they have taken good care of their pets before and if they have the number of pets they have told me about. Cheap and free dogs also often end up resold for a profit :-( and you lose track of where your puppy went! Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 25, 2002 Posted July 25, 2002 Anonymous napisał(a): Be very careful about who you invite to see your pups. I prescreen people before they ever get an invitation to come and see the pup I have picked that might suit them. Some people I have heard have folks come to see the pups end up losing their litter because the people come and leave and then come back and steal the pups once they know where you live and what your schedule is and where you keep the pups. One of the things I use to prescreen people is I find out what happend to their last pet. Another is I call their veterinarian to see if they have taken good care of their pets before and if they have the number of pets they have told me about. Cheap and free dogs also often end up resold for a profit :-( and you lose track of where your puppy went! Now, that's the kind of breeder I would want to go to! I would be very uncomfortable going to a breeder that DIDN'T ask questions. 'So you are interested in one of my pups? Here, come see my dogs and take any pup you want! Just leave the money and a way you go!' (not a real quote) Nope, I wouldn't want a pup from them! Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 25, 2002 Posted July 25, 2002 I agree with you I do ask questions to people that call about my pups. As well as they ask me questions. ANd they also know how much my pups are from the get go. But when they do come to my house to see the pups that is when you here the sob story. They just think that if you see how nice they are you will feel so sorry for them and give them a pup. And I do know of peoples dogs being stolen after someone comes to their house. That is why my dogs are locked at all times and a fence around the kennels and play area.It is only unlocked when I am at home.It is a shame that you cannot trust anyone now days.I have even lowered my price for someone and they could not pay $100 for a pup with out any papers of course. And they could not even pay that so I know they would not be able to keep up shots or vet bills. So again I said no you CANNOT HAVE A FREE PUP. :evil: People will look you in the face and still not tell you the truth. So yes, we do need to be very careful who comes to our houses. Also beware that people can give you wrong numbers and have someone act like their vet or anything like that. Some people are very smart when it comes to this. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Now days, you have to be careful. A few years back, there was a guy who would get the newspaper and call the dog ads. I found this out later, if a man answered he would hang up; if a woman answered he'd talk to her about the puppy/dog she had for sale. He was very friendly and would ask all the "key" questions to see if the woman was married and if she lived alone. He would come out to see the pups and would always give a sad story when he arrived like: he blew a tire and spent all his money getting it fixed, or he just got his test results from the doctor and he had a brain tumor, or on the way over he found out his mother had cancer and only a short time to live. All the time, he was trying to talk the woman out of a puppy (wanted it free). Some of the women fell for his sad story. If a woman refused to give him a puppy for free, he would come back later and steal it. Unfortunately for the women --- he was a rapist. Not only did he rape the women, but he stole their puppies as well. The puppies were never found and he was never caught! This is not an urban legend ---- I was one of the women he called, thank God for my neighbor who loved to stick his nose in my business. Because when this guy pulled up, my neighbor came over to my house to see who was there. This guy, I think, thought the neighbor was my husband and left. He never came back. In reference to FREE PUPPIES --- NO SUCH THING! Puppies/dogs are NOT free, they cost money to take care of. If someone wants you to GIVE them a pup --- send them packing! Because they surely aren't going to take care of it. If they're too cheap to buy it, then they'll be too cheap to take care of it properly. Quote
Aroura Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Betty napisał(a):SO NO FREE PUPPIES. Unless you would do a spay or neuter contract with them. So they could not try to make any money off of your pups. DEFINATLY not even then!!! For starters, where do they get off even ASKING for a free dog, let alone expecting it. Not to mention, if they aren't willing to pay for the dog, whats the chances they will get it vaccinated, wormed etc? Whats the chance they will still feel like FEEDING it in a years time!? And IF they bred the dog, one can assume they wont pay for a good stud fee, feed the pups good food, register them or even worm or vaccinate them, not if they think that dogs are worthless!!! If anyone ever expects a free pup from me I would tell them where to go and suggest they get a pet spider or something instead, something that wont cost them anything! The only person who would get a free pup from me is the guy who lent me $250 to get Lily and still insists that I don't pay him back. He has earnt it and I know the dog would be number one and that paying for food etc wouldn't be a problem! Quote
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