Guest Anonymous Posted June 17, 2002 Posted June 17, 2002 We have just been given a Bichon who we feel has been abused. He is almost a year old and has never been housetrained. He keeps pooping in his crate at night. He also pees in it too. We are at our wits end. We take him out right before bed at night (around 12:00) but he still does it. His crate was a little big, but I have blocked off some of it. Any advice is welcome Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 17, 2002 Posted June 17, 2002 Train the dog instead of crating it. Review times of day the dog eats. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 17, 2002 Posted June 17, 2002 Is it just at night, or during the day too? Does the dog relieve itself in other areas of the house, or just in the crate at night? Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 17, 2002 Posted June 17, 2002 Weage napisał(a):We have just been given a Bichon who we feel has been abused. He is almost a year old and has never been housetrained. He keeps pooping in his crate at night. He also pees in it too. We are at our wits end. We take him out right before bed at night (around 12:00) but he still does it. His crate was a little big, but I have blocked off some of it. Any advice is welcome Has he been checked over by a veterinarian for possible parasites etc? that is step one if you have not done that. Some dogs learn in a pet store cage or miller's cage to potty where they stand/sleep/eat which makes crate training not the easiest way to manage this. You can try - putting the crate in place of your nightstand so he isn't 'alone' in his crate. that is if its not already in your bedroom:-). If he is crated elsewhere this might be a seperation anxiety issue not a housebreaking issue. Having the dog sleep in bed with you and safety pin his leash up short to the bed so he cannot move around much while sleeping with you. If he moves around get up and take him out. Always go out with him when you want him to make a potty trip and be sure to praise and reward him every time he goes out doors in the right places. Basic obedience training interestingly enough may well help you and I do suggest clicker training. Dogs that are taught this way are easy to teach to potty on 'command' and learn to 'hold it' to earn their rewards :-) Makes reinforcing the right behavior lots easier on you both. Good of you to take on a dog with problems and I wish you luck. Barring any help from here do see if your vet can recommend a local behaviorist to help you out. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 15, 2002 Posted July 15, 2002 Well, he has stopped pooping in the crate. I think he just needed a little more time, and affection. :D The only time he seems to go in the house now is when he is chasing the cat and he gets excited or else he is marking his territory in front of her. We are having him neutered later this week so maybe that will help with that problem. Thanks to everyone who responded. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 15, 2002 Posted July 15, 2002 K napisał(a):Glad its all turned out o.k. for you ..I am in the same boat now ..friends of mine purchased a pup not knowing they could not take it with them on holiday so it is now with me and I am putting it in a travel crate at night but it is soooo tiny there is plenty of space to poo and pee and still lie down so...patience is needed here....could be as other person suggested in my case that it is so used to pooing where it is after being in the pupmill/petshop evnvironment that it just does'nt know any better...here's hopng for 3rd night lucky...all the best to you and yours...K. If it doesn't happen to be third nite is the charm :-) you can try safety pinning the pup's leash to your bed and having it sleep with you - when it gets restless get up and take it out. Sometimes its partially seperation anxiety that keeps a pup from making it all night. The too there were the people who 'crate trained' their dog and asked me why the bottoms of the crates were so hard to clean and why they bothered with the tops of the crates at all - seems they thought crate training was like litterbox training a cat and so carefully housebroke the dog to potty only in its crate! :lol: Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 15, 2002 Posted July 15, 2002 K napisał(a):sorry to whinge on guest :o not your problem I know ..In your advice you said pin leash to bed ...she doe'nt have a leash OR bowls OR supply of food OR toys I have had to supply all this and I do not have a collar anywhere near small enough and NO CHANCE of getting to the shops!!!! Moan moan moan......feeling sorry for meself....K. Nothing like new baby sleep deprivation is there :wink: ? If the pup is as small as you say - a bit of heavy twine or ribbon around the neck or if you feel like being fancy a bracelet :) and another bit used as a leash will work overnight - or you could do as my friends did and just have the pup sleep loose with them counting on the pup not being able to get off the bed to potty without waking them. If you try the twine bit make sure it is snipped off before pup goes home as it sounds like the owners might not think to check it for tightness as she grows. :cry: Have to give the owners credit though - they were bright enough to find the pup a good caretakere while they are gone - planning to give them a bill for training? :wink: Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 15, 2002 Posted July 15, 2002 K napisał(a):Not for the training but definately for the vet bills,food,worming tablets,stainless steel bowls,collar and lead(buying tomorrow)...might not give 'em the dog back till they pay up!!!!!puppy ransom!!! It is awfully hard to give a pup back when you put all the effort into it :D If you were not planning on pupnapping ;-) and adding another dog I hope the owners are not expecting to find you fallen in love with the pup and desirious of keeping it thus ridding themselves of unexpected levels of work a new pup brings! Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 15, 2002 Posted July 15, 2002 K napisał(a):No I don't think a JR would quite be my lifetime best buddy..if I could get another dog it would be a British Bulldog!!!!! quite a difference huh? And maybe they did not make such a good choice in dogsitters as maybe the JR will turn into a killing machine like my two Staffs :o Storm the female has cleaned the pups ears and Blade the male has helped it out with pottying not to go into too much detail..I gave him a mint!!!! and Elric the Saint STILL has'nt noticed it !!!! I think I'd worry more that the Jack might turn on the varminty genes in the Staffys ;-) that kind of fun seems to be catching amongst the terrier types. Pups are to be washed - all my dogs agree that no pups are ever quite clean enough - not to mention holding a pup and washing it is the first steps in teaching it its place in the doggy heirarchy :wink: Have to admit a pup will get you out of the computer chair though :D Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 15, 2002 Posted July 15, 2002 K napisał(a):She seems quite the little excavationist..hope that does'nt rub off on my Saint or else the backyard will be dangerous!!!! Have to admit a pup will get you out of the computer chair though......... Yep like a crowbar!!!! Oh yes one of the fun things about dogs is they do learn from each other despite the currently famous trainer who claims they cannot learn from observation :lol: IME they sure can learn but mostly the things you wish they wouldn't :lol: I was thinking out of the chair more on the order of jet propelled when you a) hear no noise at all and suddenly realize the pup has been too quiet too long :lol: or b) hear that screech of indignant pain from a pup and you wonder if it actually has been killed this time by some misadventure its gotten into. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 15, 2002 Posted July 15, 2002 K napisał(a): and Elric the Saint STILL has'nt noticed it !!!! That makes me laugh! Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted July 16, 2002 Posted July 16, 2002 The lady I sit next to has two choc labs (ages 10 and 11). The younger, Lucy, loves to bark and chase planes.... Quote
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